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Offline trevorg

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Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« on: August 22, 2016, 10:35 PM »
Hello Festool, I love my cordless Carvex and tracksaw and can't really imagine going back to corded when the power is there.  Any ideas when Festool might release a cordless multi-tool (to the US market)?

Also, ever considered making cordless 16-gauge and 18-gauge nailers for trim?  Seems like much of your market would have good use for them.  I'm super impressed with your cordless tools so far and would like to replace as many cordless and corded tools as I can with Festool cordless.

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Offline TylerC

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2016, 09:22 AM »
As of now, we're not planning on a cordless version of our Vecturo Oscillating Multi-Tool. (At least not in the near future.) That's a tool where -- based on how it's used -- people are usually satisfied with a corded version. That said, we're continuing to invest in our cordless tools, so anything is possible.

There aren't currently plans to release a nailer.





Offline Blakestiles

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2017, 05:17 PM »
I disagree with craftsmen not needing it cordless. I bought the vecturo before the cordless carvex and ts came out. After buying the cordless versions the cord really slows me down. Please make a cordless vecturo! My company will by 3 the day it comes out.

Offline jimbo51

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2017, 06:45 PM »
I think Festool will introduce a cordless version when their agreement with Fein allows them to. Festool will also then improve the plunge attachment to allow easy depth adjustment.

Offline rst

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2017, 09:16 PM »
The Vecturo is really a Fein Supercut in disquise, I've had a MM for years.  Toolnut sold the corded Supercut in a systainer for what was 1/2 the traditional price and in a systainer and I jumped right on that deal.  I later bought the cordless 18v Supercut as I had also bought the Fein 18v drill.  The Supercut that Toolnut sold had the adapter that allows use of the MM blades.  All three tools are fantastic.

Offline Goneshootin88

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2017, 05:02 AM »
I've got to disagree. I have a cordless Milwaukee and a corded Bosch. The only time the Bosch ever gets used is if the Milwaukee was left at another job. Fein already makes a 18v, it shouldn't be hard for Festool to make one that accepts their battery.


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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2017, 06:23 AM »
"...people are usually satisfied with a corded version."

No me, I have had a Fein MM250Q for many years and I received the Ridgid 12V JobMax 2 years ago for Father's Day and since that day my Fein MM has never seen daylight. The JobMax has about 7 different interchangeable heads available that convert it to a 3/8" right angle drill, jigsaw, 1/4" hex drive impact, 3/8" ratchet, spiral saw, reciprocating saw, as well as the standard multi-tool cutting/sanding capabilities. The tool has four different consoles or power sources; 18V cordless, 12V cordless, pneumatic, and a corded 120V AC version. It's a good tool and the accessory heads I have work well. It's not Festool quality but it was not designed to be and the cost is significantly less. The jig saw does not have a light and none of the cutting attachments have dust collection capabilities which I miss but to the question being considered here about the 'need' or market for a cordless multi-tool I have to say that there is one and others will fill the void if Festool chooses not to.

I will sell my MM250 soon and get a Vecturo but if a cordless version was on the drawing board or coming out in the near future I would hold off for that as I am working to cut the cord on all my portable tools so have been replacing everything with cordless versions.

I sold four (two of which were cordless but w/o dust collection) circular saws including my corded DeWalt track saw and replaced them all with the TSC55. I did hang on to my 8-1/4 worm-drive Skillsaw and my PC 314H 4-1/2" worm drive saw though but they may hit the auction block soon if I have not used them at least once in the next year.

My corded drills rarely get used since I bought the T15+3 and the other cordless drills and drivers I already had. I am looking to get the PDC18/4 soon and that will have me covered for just about anything for handheld drilling or driving along with the Hilti TE17 for big stuff which after 25+ years just won't die.

My point is that cordless is where all my future handheld power tool dollars will be spent, or the majority anyway. If I have to buy outside the Festool brand then so be it, but I am cutting the cord on everything where I can. I am sure I am not the only one who is thinking like this.
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Offline slimm

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2017, 04:46 PM »
As of now, we're not planning on a cordless version of our Vecturo Oscillating Multi-Tool. (At least not in the near future.) That's a tool where -- based on how it's used -- people are usually satisfied with a corded version. That said, we're continuing to invest in our cordless tools, so anything is possible.

There aren't currently plans to release a nailer.

I woulld only buy a cordless multi tool. The fact that there is a cord is the only reason I have chosen not to buy the multi tool

Offline Kev

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2017, 07:17 PM »
I have a Vecturo and a corded Fein. I acquired a cordless Dewalt multi simply because I wanted the small batteries a bundle came with on Ebay and got it for a bargain ... now the Dewalt is my "go to" multitool.

I'm finding I now sometimes pick up the cordless multi in situations where I would have grabbed a large chisel [cool] Somewhere I have a cordless Dremel multitool ... that was just a piece of garbage.

Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2017, 07:24 PM »
As of now, we're not planning on a cordless version of our Vecturo Oscillating Multi-Tool. (At least not in the near future.) That's a tool where -- based on how it's used -- people are usually satisfied with a corded version. That said, we're continuing to invest in our cordless tools, so anything is possible.

There aren't currently plans to release a nailer.

I woulld only buy a cordless multi tool. The fact that there is a cord is the only reason I have chosen not to buy the multi tool

I couldn't agree more. I don't think I can go back to a corded one now that I've had the cordless convenience. I don't know who that guy's been talking to, but it's not anyone I know.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2017, 09:06 PM »
So, 10 months later @TylerC , has anything changed in how a cordless multitool is viewed in the development and marketing circles at Festool?

I think you can get a taste of how your customer base feels from this thread. Maybe it's only a handful of comments but it certainly shows interest from people with money to spend.
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Offline TylerC

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2017, 07:23 AM »
So, 10 months later @TylerC , has anything changed in how a cordless multitool is viewed in the development and marketing circles at Festool?

I think you can get a taste of how your customer base feels from this thread. Maybe it's only a handful of comments but it certainly shows interest from people with money to spend.

There's nothing new to announce. That said, cordless continues to be a major priority for Festool's future, so nothing is off the table.

Offline #Tee

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2017, 07:46 AM »
a cordless vecturo is much more handy than a tsc55..much like a cordless carvex. these are normally associated with small trim jobs and does not need tons of power and on time. imo festool is always late on the cordless market, they figured lets put a gauge on their new batteries like its new tech lol
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Offline T. Ernsberger

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2017, 10:07 AM »
There's no need for Festool to make one.  Fein already makes a cordless Multimaster so what's the point?  The Vecturo is already a rebranded Fein.

Offline Kev

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2017, 10:21 AM »
There's no need for Festool to make one.  Fein already makes a cordless Multimaster so what's the point?  The Vecturo is already a rebranded Fein.

Plunge base and battery compatibility would be reasons I'd want one. Someone with existing cordless Festool gear could simply invest in a "skin" only variant. Over time your batteries need replacing too ... the less variety you have the better off you'll be.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2017, 10:38 AM »
a cordless vecturo is much more handy than a tsc55..much like a cordless carvex. these are normally associated with small trim jobs and does not need tons of power and on time. imo festool is always late on the cordless market, they figured lets put a gauge on their new batteries like its new tech lol

First is not always best.

I'm OK with them arriving late if you want to put it
that way, as long as they get there fashionably late. :)
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Offline rst

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2017, 02:21 PM »
While battery interchangeability is an issue Kev, the plunge base fits the Fein perfectly.

Offline antss

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2017, 03:30 PM »
@TylerC - will you comment on how Festool goes about deciding on new offerings ?

Does senior management simply decide this is what we need to sell ? Is there open mic nite where employees can pitch their ideas ?  Do you broadly survey registered owners for what they'd like to see ?

I talked with a couple of your colleagues about 10-15 years ago at a big trade show about offering smaller battery drills.  Their point of fact answer from behind a deer in the headlights look was they didn't see a need for such a product. Battery tools weren't your niche and no one wanted smaller drills.

Funny how TDX, CDX are probably your best selling models and you have a slew of cordless offering in the last few years.     

I'm not looking to puff out my chest, but am generally interested in how you guys decide on product offerings.

Offline TylerC

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2017, 04:41 PM »
@TylerC - will you comment on how Festool goes about deciding on new offerings ?

Does senior management simply decide this is what we need to sell ? Is there open mic nite where employees can pitch their ideas ?  Do you broadly survey registered owners for what they'd like to see ?


That's a great question. It's probably one where I should see about getting a better answer from HQ — as that's where these decisions are primarily made.

For a handful of reasons, we're usually pretty careful and protective about what we will publicly discuss about our business operations. I'll try to can get an answer that protects our interests while offering you a worthwhile behind-the-scenes look.

I actually have a meeting scheduled for the week after next about how we communicate about things like this. How about this? Instead of answering on this thread, I'll speak with HQ and have that meeting in two weeks. Then — if I have anything valuable to contribute — I'll answer in a new thread.

It sounds like there are actually two parts to this question:
1. How are ideas generated?
2. How are the final decisions made about what will move into production?

I do know that the answer is not "senior management simply decide this is what we need to sell". Several departments are involved before final decisions are made on these sorts of things.

My understanding is that the initial ideas and feedback can come from a variety of places sometimes including end customers and employees at every level. Clearly, not everything that initially seems like a good idea is actually one that makes sense for us — at least not at that moment. There's a large amount of effort required (market research, financial projections, manufacturing requirements, etc.) before an idea can get greenlit to see the light of day. I'll see what additional insight I can offer.

Offline Kev

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2017, 06:58 PM »
While battery interchangeability is an issue Kev, the plunge base fits the Fein perfectly.

@rst .. now I hate you [big grin] .. and if a cordless Fein ends up in my workshop my wife will hate you too [big grin] [wink]

I think I'd pretty much resigned myself to a multi brand battery charging station when I added Senco to the mix ... then Metabo, then Dewalt, etc ... but for someone working with a mobile setup the extra hassle factor must be an issue!

Offline rst

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2017, 09:09 PM »
Kev, I feel your pain.  I use a lot of Milwaukee 12 and 18v tools, bought the Fein 18v drill (a beast but I do beastly jobs), and then the HKC and am really trying to resist Metabo, Lowe's is really discounting their 18v sliding chop saw and I have their corded concrete grinder and the concrete saw that will work with a rail.  So many tempting tools looking for excuses to buy.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2017, 09:15 PM »
Thank you Tyler, I am sure this is something that will interest most, whatever you can share would be great.
There are certainly ways to poll the user base without revealing what or if any particular product is being considered. I think everyone can realize that even giving a hint as to what is on the drawing board could give the competition a peek or hint as to what's coming and a chance to rush something to market before Festool has perfected their tool or product. As I said before first is not always best.

Is there an idea submission protocol in place that people can use to formally submit tools ideas or improvements?
If yes can you provide a link to the information.

Never mind, answered my own question.

For others here is the URL to the idea submission page.
https://www.festoolusa.com/knowledge/ideas-initiative
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Offline Kev

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Re: Any plans for a cordless multi-tool? If so when?
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2017, 03:04 AM »
Kev, I feel your pain.  I use a lot of Milwaukee 12 and 18v tools, bought the Fein 18v drill (a beast but I do beastly jobs), and then the HKC and am really trying to resist Metabo, Lowe's is really discounting their 18v sliding chop saw and I have their corded concrete grinder and the concrete saw that will work with a rail.  So many tempting tools looking for excuses to buy.

@rst you won't be sad in you buy the Metabo 18V SCMS ... it's a lovely little thing. I got mine a while back - if I hadn't I would have jumped at a KS60, but if you stick a decent blade in the Metabo it does an absolutely brilliant job. A little bit of detail does feel "Chinese" but the price point here in Oz was a no brainer for me.

Keep clear of the Metabo reciprocating saws .. they're simply awful.