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Offline woodwreck

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Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« on: January 16, 2012, 05:48 PM »
Are there any plans for tenons beyond the 10 mm. like to a 3/8" or even 1/2"??

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Woodwreck

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Offline Brice Burrell

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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 05:59 PM »
You must live under a rock. [tongue] 

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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 06:35 PM »
You must live under a rock. [tongue]

Does "Northern California" answer that well ???  [big grin]

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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 06:47 PM »
Why sell you a bigger cutter for $50 when they can sell you a bigger machine for probably $1,100???  Lol

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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 06:58 PM »
As you can see from the responses, there will be a new bigger Domino XL available later this year. There are no plans, and I would never envision there being, larger bits or tenons for the current DF 500.

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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 09:18 PM »
Thank you for the courtesy of the reply, Shane. While I was aware of a larger machine on the horizon, the hint of the price had pretty well eclipsed any search for what benefits it might have and I had no knowledge of its features or benefits.

The video was very informative not withstanding the snide comments.
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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 09:27 PM »
You're welcome. I would ask that members be considerate toward others in their responses. This forum is a great resource for those who choose to know everything there is to know about Festool in real time as well as the novice or less enthusiastic member who may not stay in the loop as much. There shouldn't be any criticism for not knowing the answer to a legitimate question. Once upon a time, all of us, myself included, knew nothing about Festool. Let's remember that when we answer other's questions. Thanks.

Edit: I should mention that some/all of the responses may have been meant in jest. Just a friendly reminder.
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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2012, 02:37 AM »
Edit: I should mention that some/all of the responses may have been meant in jest. Just a friendly reminder.

Absolutely ... from down here in Oz, we only know North California as a wine district. It's a compliment if anything.

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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2012, 10:16 AM »
....Edit: I should mention that some/all of the responses may have been meant in jest. Just a friendly reminder.

Right, no offense intended. That's why I used this guy. [tongue]
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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2012, 10:56 AM »
To all, I thank you for the closure and appreciate all the valuable contributions typically and frequently found; someday we hope to see you here in Napa County.  [cool]
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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 12:21 PM »
Now that I have been enlightened  [big grin], and understanding that specs are not as yet published, any idea of the weight? Apparently its use would be pretty much dependent on being a bench machine something akin in use to a Kapex?
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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 01:03 PM »
Now that I have been enlightened  [big grin], and understanding that specs are not as yet published, any idea of the weight? Apparently its use would be pretty much dependent on being a bench machine something akin in use to a Kapex?

I haven't had the pleasure of wielding one yet, but to my understanding it's comfortably a hand tool for larger mortise applications - not a bench tool at all. A member here called "stone message" has done a series of video reviews of the XL in the review section ... Well worth a peek.

The specs are aailable to read on the UK site - going from 240v to 110v won't significantly change much?

This is a flash link http://www.festool.net/dominoXL/gb/index.html , so I can't confirm it's the correct one on my iPad at the moment.


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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 01:49 PM »
I can confirm that the XL is certainly a hand tool & not one best suited to bench mounting.  It is so easy to plunge the largest of mortice's with less vibration that the small Domino.  I think it might be one of the best Festools I have bought.

Brice, consider your wrist slapped  [poke]. Pretty funny though  [bite tongue]
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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 12:13 AM »
I seem to recall one of the good cutter manufacturing companies offering replacement Domino cutters (original metric sizes).  They would probably be receptive to making larger size cutters -- 1/2", etc.  Of course you would then need to make your own tenons which is quite simple with a router table.  For the purpose of slightly extending the size range of the 500 Domino machine it should be an economical option.

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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2012, 10:11 AM »
One of the things I noticed in the Domino tool is, as Ron Wen mentions, the vibration being a little more than desirable, and the torque when drilling. It is easy for it to twist the resulting mortise slightly off dead level if not held down adequately. This is particularly true when working narrower pieces needing greater placement sometime.

It is possibly a greater problem for anyone who might have experienced wrist injury in past years (decades) or carpal tunnel issues that don't seem to get back to 100% It is the matter of the effect of twisting on the wrist, rather than a vertical grip strength, for those of us having experienced either or both.

Simply drilling a 1/2" hole v. a 5/16" hole (10mm) approximates the experience. But, I am sure Festool if anyone, will manage it.
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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2012, 10:42 AM »
There really shouldn't be any twisting of the wrists while using a Domino. The machine is held steady by putting one's weight on the black handle on the flip-down fence.

All you should be doing with the hand that is on the body of the machine is gradually plunging the tool.


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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2012, 10:54 AM »
There really shouldn't be any twisting of the wrists while using a Domino. The machine is held steady by putting one's weight on the black handle on the flip-down fence.

All you should be doing with the hand that is on the body of the machine is gradually plunging the tool.


Tom

I agree with Tom on this one.  If you're getting mortises out of level/parallel to the reference surface it's a matter of plunge speed of the Domino.  Most likely too fast but too slow can do it to.

Here's Festool pdf file on plunge speeds. 
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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2012, 01:08 PM »
There really shouldn't be any twisting of the wrists while using a Domino. The machine is held steady by putting one's weight on the black handle on the flip-down fence.

All you should be doing with the hand that is on the body of the machine is gradually plunging the tool.


Tom

I agree with Tom on this one.  If you're getting mortises out of level/parallel to the reference surface it's a matter of plunge speed of the Domino.  Most likely too fast but too slow can do it to.

Here's Festool pdf file on plunge speeds. 

Thank you for the PDF article now downloaded and saved. I will try that...   I didn't intend to suggest I was deliberatively twisting the wrist as might have been concluded,

I am making six dining room chairs and will be using it for the slats and stretchers and will try your advice.
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Woodwreck

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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2012, 05:21 PM »
One of the things I noticed in the Domino tool is, as Ron Wen mentions, the vibration being a little more than desirable, and the torque when drilling. It is easy for it to twist the resulting mortise slightly off dead level if not held down adequately. This is particularly true when working narrower pieces needing greater placement sometime.

It is possibly a greater problem for anyone who might have experienced wrist injury in past years (decades) or carpal tunnel issues that don't seem to get back to 100% It is the matter of the effect of twisting on the wrist, rather than a vertical grip strength, for those of us having experienced either or both.

Simply drilling a 1/2" hole v. a 5/16" hole (10mm) approximates the experience. But, I am sure Festool if anyone, will manage it.

I don't seem to recall mentioning anything like that -- please point me in that direction.  [unsure]

Offline woodwreck

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Re: Any plans for larger Domino bit/tenon?
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2012, 11:01 PM »
Well, RonWen, on researching it back through  I can't find it...  my apologies for an apparent misreading or misattribution from somewhere else.   [unsure]
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Woodwreck