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« on: August 15, 2010, 10:02 PM » |
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Hi.
Im knocking up some basic shelving to house my CMS modules, but would like to know if there is a correct / incorrect way of doing this?
for example, should the supports on the shelves support the long or short ends? should the tools, when being stored, be hanging under the faceplate or sit above the face place?
Any advice is great, thanking you!
Cheers
Tony
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2010, 10:16 PM » |
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Here's what Festool sells for CMS module storage; CMS Module TowerClearly this illustrates that the modules are held along their long edges and the spacing only makes sense if they intended for you to have the ability to store the modules with the tools installed and hanging below the faceplate. |
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2010, 10:18 PM » |
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hi tony.
my cms support shelves support the short ends so there is less chance of sagging in the middle.
i let the tool hang down. the reason for this is because i copied what festool have down with their cms support shelving system.
justin.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2010, 10:21 PM » |
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Hey thanks guys for the fast replies!
I was looking for a picture of the MT 1600 with the tools in it so i could copy, but can't seem to find one!
Justin - thanks mate! i was concerned that not storing them correctly may allow the plates to bend/distort in some way. How do you go with your router and the TS module, when storing do you have to take off any of the attachments like the router fence?
Cheers!
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Corwin
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2010, 10:25 PM » |
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2010, 10:33 PM » |
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tony.
my shelving system is 1800mm high with heavy duty lockable castor wheels.
as you can see in the link corwin has provided, the festool sytem supports the module plate by the short ends also.
i dont like that you have to slide metal on metal.
i made my rails from pine so the module plate slides on timber, not metal.
yes, i take off any attachments and store them on a sliding drawer which is at the bottom of my shelf system.
i leave the tool on as that is the way festool designed their shelves to work also. there should not be any sagging.
if its good enough for festool, its good enough for me!
justin.
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2010, 10:43 PM » |
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as you can see in the link corwin has provided, the festool sytem supports the module plate by the short ends also.
Maybe it's just a matter of semantics, but as I see it, the Festool MT 1600 holds the modules by the long edges. The specs state that the MT 1600 is 460mm wide and 600mm deep, so I cannot see how it can possibly hold the modules by the short ends. |
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2010, 11:28 PM » |
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Thanks to you both - i have my answer so very much appreciated!
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2010, 12:04 AM » |
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as you can see in the link corwin has provided, the festool sytem supports the module plate by the short ends also.
Maybe it's just a matter of semantics, but as I see it, the Festool MT 1600 holds the modules by the long edges. The specs state that the MT 1600 is 460mm wide and 600mm deep, so I cannot see how it can possibly hold the modules by the short ends.  I take off the tools and keep the side tables, hose, and module plates stacked in a Pelican 1650 with carpet offcuts between... |
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2010, 03:13 AM » |
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i stand corrected corwin.
the festool system does hold the modules by the long edges as does my shelving system.
i think semantics is a good way to describe it.
sometimes i call it foot in mouth disease!
justin.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2010, 03:39 AM » |
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i stand corrected corwin.
the festool system does hold the modules by the long edges as does my shelving system.
i think semantics is a good way to describe it.
sometimes i call it foot in mouth disease!
justin.
Hey Justin, I was pretty sure that that is what you meant, as you also said that you did so to prevent sagging.  |
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2010, 05:36 AM » |
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On top of that, the CMS itself does only support the plates along the long edges, even under load. So there should be no problem with sagging whatsoever.
Creep in alumin(i)um does occur, but not under these loads - if your great-grandchildren ever would remove the a module from it's housing to actually try to get it to work, their problem is more likely to be the availability of a compatible powersource, not sagging. Any kind of storage that prevents heavy objects from falling onto your CMS modules will probably do fine - they're pretty susbstantial to begin with.
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Job
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2010, 06:57 AM » |
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 My simple answer.. the plates are 7mm aluminium extrusion with re-enforcement ribs on the undershie so they are not going to bend given their strength vs span, eitherway you support them |
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