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« on: October 15, 2012, 07:35 AM »

I got an email notification of a recon sale starting, I wonder is there a list of toys up for sale.
Shane any help with this one

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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2012, 08:30 AM »

OH YEAH BABY!

Who sent the email?
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 09:03 AM »

First, sorry to Richard and our friends in Canada, but this particular recon sale is only available to US customers. Canadian customers, please contact your preferred Festool dealer for information about obtaining reconditioned tools, there is a separate program there. Also, there are no reconditioned tools sales shipped to Hawaii or Alaska at this time.

All sales of reconditioned tools are final. Festool does guarantee, however, that the tools will be delivered complete and in good working order. Festool’s standard warranty will apply to these tools for a period of one year from the date of purchase. Festool will pay shipping to and from the repair center during that one year warranty.

Here's a quick overview about discounts and condition. As a general rule, the more wear and tear a tool exhibits, the greater the discount. Though classification is somewhat subjective, the following should be used as a general guide.


10% Discount Level - Unused tools. Original packaging with slight impairment (damaged, labeled and/or dirty).
20% Discount Level - Slightly used tools. Original packaging with slight impairment (damaged, labeled and /or dirty).
30% Discount Level - Moderately used tools. Original packaging damaged (tears, spots and dust).

As for which tools are available, I would direct you to contact your preferred Festool dealer, who has access to real-time inventory. That inventory can be very fluid, especially during the next week or two, so I don't want to publish a list per se since it will likely change very quickly. Most of these are T-LOC, but there are a few in Classic Systainers. But here's some of what we have:

Cordless Drills - TDK 12, TDK 15, C12 NiCd, T12, T15, CXS, C15, T18 and C12 LiIon
Domino - DF 500 and XL (XL is now sold out)
Dust Extractors - MINI, 22, 33, MIDI, 26, 36
Jigsaws - PS/PSB 300
Miter Saws - Kapex
MFT - MFT/3 (not the basic or Kapex versions)
Planers - EHL 65 and HL 850
Track Saws - TS 55 and TS 75
Routers - 2000, 1010, 1400, 2000 Basic, 2200, MFK 700
Sanders - DS 400, RS 400, RS 2, DX 93, LS 130, RTS 400, DTS 400, RAS 115, Shinex RAP 150, RO 150 E (original Rotex), RO 125, ETS 125, ES 125, Planex, RO 150 FEQ (current Rotex), ETS 150/3 and /5, RO 90, LEX 185/7, LEX 150/3


Check with your dealer for which discount levels are available for each of those tools. All tools are dropshipped form our Indiana warehouse.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2012, 10:21 AM »

No problem, Shane, I'm in the US every couple of weeks!
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2012, 10:39 AM »

Last time I purchased a recon it was through the Festool USA website......is that not how it works this year?
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2012, 10:44 AM »

Last time I purchased a recon it was through the Festool USA website......is that not how it works this year?

No, you will need to order through your dealer. I doubt any dealers will make recons available for order online because it would be hard to keep inventory availability correct. So, you'll need to call or visit your dealer.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 11:21 AM »

I didn't receive any e-mail from Festool USA. Sad
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2012, 11:23 AM »

I didn't receive any e-mail from Festool USA. Sad

That's because we didn't send one.  Wink

I think Sal got it from his dealer but I'm not sure who that was.
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2012, 01:13 PM »

Shane. I got the email from Beaver Tool. I took it for granted the cat was out of the bag

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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2012, 01:15 PM »

Shane. I got the email from Beaver Tool. I took it for granted the cat was out of the bag

Dealers were able to announce the program starting today. I just wasn't sure of your source, but I suspected Beaver since I saw it on their website's homepage.

PS - I just gave dealers a way to list availability on their website in real-time, so you may see that on some of our dealers' website soon. Note that not all dealers are participating, it's optional.
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2012, 02:14 PM »

So I come to find out already found a dealer not getting involved.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2012, 02:36 PM »

 Hey Guys,

 Since it has not been mentioned yet and will be coming up quite often, this needs to be mentioned and it's regarding sales tax. Festool will charge and collect from dealers and remit  sales tax at retail value for all the Recon tools in which Festool has a sales tax nexus. Dealers are obligated by contract (unless they are already collecting sales tax in a given state to charge the customers  (in the below states) and in my case - as always, in New Jersey and Ohio. This is something we dealers must charge as per Festool Agreement.

 As regards any shipping surcharge for the MFT's, CT 48's, Sysports, that's up to we dealers to pass on or not to pass on any large item surcharge. For the record, I'm not charging shipping on those items.

 Puleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze don't shoot me; I'm just the messenger. Scared Eek! Sad

States in which Festool currently has a sales tax nexus:

 California
 Connecticut
 Florida
 Indiana
 Maryland
 Maine
 Michigan
 Minnesota
 North Carolina
 New Jersey
 Nevada
 New York
 Pennsylvania
 South Carolina
 Tennessee
 Virginia
 Washington


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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2012, 02:48 PM »

Let me clarify on what Bob just said. We (Festool) are required to collect sales tax in any state where we have a nexus (basically an employee based). Since the reconditioned tool orders are being drop shipped, we are required to collect this tax by the state. Bob's list is not complete due to some recent additions of employees in other states. Here is the complete list. Also, the oversized items are charged $25 per item for shipping and include: all versions of the MFT, all versions of the CMS, SysPort, CT 48, and Kapex. Realize that some of these oversized items are not currently available, but may be at some point in the future.

I suppose I should have included this in my original post. Sorry about that.

California
Connecticut
Florida
Indiana
Maine
Maryland
Michigan
Minnesota
North Carolina
New Jersey
Nevada
New York
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
Tennessee
Virginia
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2012, 12:27 AM »

Is the sale going on until a certain date or just until all the tools are sold?

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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2012, 08:48 AM »

Is the sale going on until a certain date or just until all the tools are sold?

Tom, the recon sale is for a limited time, however we have not published a cut off date at this time. The last recon sale lasted for a month and most everything was sold out.
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2012, 10:21 AM »

For the mft/3's. What condition are the tops going to be in?
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2012, 10:53 AM »

For the mft/3's. What condition are the tops going to be in?

I wanted to confirm before I answered. Here is what I was told.

"Most tops are in new condition, but some may be stained and have kerf marks.  No difference based on discount.  All tops are in usable condition."

Remember that the top can also be flipped into 4 different orientations: rotated 180 degrees or flipped over.
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2012, 11:02 AM »

For the mft/3's. What condition are the tops going to be in?

I wanted to confirm before I answered. Here is what I was told.

"Most tops are in new condition, but some may be stained and have kerf marks.  No difference based on discount.  All tops are in usable condition."

Remember that the top can also be flipped into 4 different orientations: rotated 180 degrees or flipped over.


Shane flipped yes... but rotated 180deg Huh? would it be easier to Just turn the whole table around?
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2012, 11:06 AM »

Shane flipped yes... but rotated 180deg Huh? would it be easier to Just turn the whole table around?

It moves the kerf away from the guide rail by rotating the top and gives you a fresh piece of table top to cut a new, clean kerf. Turning the table would just make you face the opposite direction.  Blink
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2012, 11:10 AM »

Shane flipped yes... but rotated 180deg Huh? would it be easier to Just turn the whole table around?

It moves the kerf away from the guide rail by rotating the top and gives you a fresh piece of table top to cut a new, clean kerf. Turning the table would just make you face the opposite direction.  Blink

thanks for the clarification, can you tell I don't own one? Big Grin
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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2012, 12:20 PM »

I bought an MFT in the last recon sale 20% off. The top was in perfect condition but one of the side rails was dinged. No big deal at all.

Just to give you an idea of what you condition an MFT could be in.
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2012, 01:04 AM »

Shane,

Is there a reason why sales are final?  If I remember right, the last sale of reconditioned tools had a 30 day return policy.

It makes me a little nervous buying a tool sight unseen. Not nervous enough that it kept me from ordering a Kapex, but nervous.  Wink

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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2012, 09:39 AM »

Tom, I understand your concern, but it's us, Festool. We're going to provide you with a tool that's in great working order and that's guaranteed, and that it has all items that come with a new tool.
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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2012, 10:49 AM »

Tom, I've never been anything but pleased with my recon festools. I got in on the last sale and both items were in better shape than stated.

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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2012, 03:51 PM »

Shane,

Is there a reason why sales are final?  If I remember right, the last sale of reconditioned tools had a 30 day return policy.

It makes me a little nervous buying a tool sight unseen. Not nervous enough that it kept me from ordering a Kapex, but nervous.  Wink

Tom

i presume its because festool is doing this sale to get rid of a colection of  tools that were sent back. if they allow peoople to send them back again then they will never get rid of them.


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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2012, 04:31 PM »

I was wondering the same thing Alan!

Do Festool UK offer the same sort of recon sale?

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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2012, 04:46 PM »

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Do Festool UK offer the same sort of recon sale?

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« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2012, 11:55 AM »

Tom, I understand your concern, but it's us, Festool. We're going to provide you with a tool that's in great working order and that's guaranteed, and that it has all items that come with a new tool.

Ha ha, you sounded a little like a used tool salesman.  You can trust us here at Shane's used tools.  This tool was owned by an elderly man who only used it to build a dollhouse for his granddaughter.   Laughing Laughing

I bought a couple sanders at the last sale.  One looked brand new while the other had some scuff marks on the side, but both worked fine.  My Kapex should arrive today, so I'll see how it looks.  Hopefully it will get here before I have to leave for work.

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« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2012, 12:19 PM »

I can’t remember who told me this, but it was really insightful to me, and so here ya go:

When buying anything used, the amount of the discount is the tradeoff for “uncertainty”.  You don’t know what happened to that car/truck/tool/furniture.  But, you’re not buying it new.  The difference in pricing reflects uncertainty and it’s condition, function, cleanliness… you get the idea...  So get over it.

I can’t think of another reconditioned / like-new product that comes with such stalwart support behind it and produces top quality products to begin with.
So stop wondering if you’re getting brand new for 10/20/30% off.  Of course you aren’t.  If guaranteed new, pristine, untouched and unsoiled are priorities… cough up the 30% and buy new!  Otherwise, pull the trigger before you miss the boat!!


For full disclosure, I bought 4 tools in the last recon sale, and all four looked like they’d been used twice, by an elderly man who made only a dollhouse.  ;-)   About half my Festool horde / hoard was new purchase, and about half was used (recon or purchased privately).
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« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2012, 12:24 PM »

Ha! Embarassed

I just don't know how else to say it. We go out of our way to make sure that we under-promise and over-deliver. I think the testimonials from others who have purchased them already is a good indication of that.
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