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Offline Paul G

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Pro 5 product name question
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:23 PM »
@TylerC Can you clarify if the pro 5 sander will continue with the same tool name it currently has after this promo is behind us?
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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2016, 04:25 PM »
The PRO 5 LTD is only available through this promotion. It was always intended as a limited-run tool.

Offline Paul G

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2016, 04:31 PM »
Thanks. So after the promo will the same sander exist with a new name? If so what name?
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Offline TylerC

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2016, 04:42 PM »
The PRO 5 LTD is essentially a revision of the ETS 125, which is still available.

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2016, 07:07 PM »
But will the revision exist past this promotion? 

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2016, 07:21 PM »
After the current PRO 5 version is finally dead, I'd suggest renaming the ETS 125 with the new PRO 5 updates...ETS 125 PRO. Linking the old with the new...

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2016, 07:33 PM »
@TylerC - I'm with Peter here. 

Y'all might do yourself a world of favor by announcing that the the Pro5 will morph into the ETS125 or ETS400 or whatever next year to round out the line up with revised DTS and RTS models.  Might take some pressure off. 

Not doing so makes it look like you didn't update the ETS sander except for a crazy promotion that went sideways.  The faithful can't get the more powerful and variable speed ETS and they can't get a pro5 either now.  Makes it look like you're not on the cutting edge.

Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2016, 07:45 PM »
Well name it the ETS 125-2.5, indicating the 250 watts verse the 200 watts of the ETS 125.

Or  the ETS 125-2 for 2 amps verse the 1.67 amps of the ETS 125.

In use it actually does make a difference, enough to make me keep it

I rally wish they would have gone 3 amp to 3.3 amp in the Pro5. This could of put it first in its class. With small fine stroke sanders like this more power is so readily apparent. Try the Dewalt 2645 next to the ETS 125 or Pro 5 and anyone will instantly see what I mean. It's easier to get that non swirl finish with the slight increase in power, it just is. The Pro 5 proves this as its very small increase in power(50 watt) does make it better, it's marginal, but enough to make a difference.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2016, 07:51 PM by Dovetail65 »
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Offline Paul G

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2016, 08:09 PM »
But will the revision exist past this promotion? 

Peter

I was simply assuming it would be, but Tylers responses makes me ask the same question as you.
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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2016, 08:43 PM »
Dovetail65 - I think that power thing makes for problematic optics for festool when the sanders cost $260.  At $99 most people will probably say ho hum. At 3x the going rate no amount of blue and green plastic, an xtra hole, or a detachable cord will make up for lack of horsepower in many people's eyes.


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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2016, 08:46 PM »
The ETS 125 cost 180.00. The 99 sander is basically the same sander on sale with more power. I dont understand your point at all. I was giving an idea for a new name, that's it.

We can't keep  the ETS 125 the same name if it now has 30% more power, that makes no sense at all. People need to know their is a difference between new and old models..
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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2016, 08:52 PM »
I don't think we need to worry about Festool figuring out how to make sure people know the difference between old and new generations of their tools.

Take the other orbitals for example, the new DTS and RTS are 'req' instead of 'eq' models, I believe.

Once this whole Pro 5 limited run runs its course, I would have to suspect -based on the pattern- that any new ETS 125 that rolls out with the new specs would follow suit in nomenclature with the rest of the orbital family.

On another but related note, what do Foggers do when they can't get tickets to the concert or ball game that they would really like to go to?

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Offline dmick

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2016, 08:57 PM »
In the Euro Market, the ETS 125 is the Pro 5 with 250W, minus the blue,LTD sys of course.
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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2016, 08:59 PM »
Personally, I hope Festool never puts out another dark blue sys again, ever.

People just can't deal with it.

Offline Paul G

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2016, 01:09 AM »
I don't think we need to worry about Festool figuring out how to make sure people know the difference between old and new generations of their tools.

Trust me, there's no worry going on with me about this, just curiosity plain and simple.
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Offline Alex

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2016, 02:41 AM »
You guys already have the new DTS and RTS sanders, there's no logical reason you shouldn't get the new ETS 125 REQ. Especially after seeing the demand for this promotion.

Festool USA is probably pondering now about how they should name it. Stay with the metric 125 designation or go for the more American friendly "5" to show it is a 5 inch model?

"Pro" is a dumb name for a professional tool. All those $29.99 tools you get in cheap stores are called "Pro".

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2016, 06:49 AM »
My guess is that the "Pro" in Pro 5 probably refers to the fact that it is a promotion. In fact, I think it is called "Pro 5 ltd", with ltd referring to the limited promotion.

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2016, 09:48 AM »
Sometime later next year, we will be releasing an updated version of the ETS 125, which will be identical (excluding obvious cosmetic differences like the label) to the PRO 5 LTD.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2016, 11:21 AM by TylerC »

Offline Paul G

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2016, 10:52 AM »
Thanks Tyler, now things make more sense.
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Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2016, 10:57 AM »
Sometime later this year, we will be releasing an updated version of the ETS 125, which will be identical (excluding obvious cosmetic differences like the label) to the PRO 5 LTD.

At the 185 price and an addendum after the ETS 125, QC or whatever they choose, I assume.

And this has always been the case as far as I know and was stated at the beginning, I think this thread went so long people just forgot this.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2016, 11:00 AM by Dovetail65 »
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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2016, 11:23 AM »
I just noticed that I said that the revised ETS 125 would be coming later this year. My fingers weren't typing what was in my head. It will actually be coming NEXT year (2017). Sorry for the misstatement.

Offline dmick

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2016, 02:21 AM »
In the Euro Market, the ETS 125 is the Pro 5 with 250W, minus the blue,LTD sys of course.

Like I mentioned, this will trickle over to the US like most Festool releases. I don't really get the Festool model of releasing tools?
They have a version in Eastern Euro Markets, They slap new names on it or may call it Limited, etc. and make it available in new markets to test them?? Its an updated version of the tool, why not just release it across all markets? They do this for many tools and sometimes causes headaches. Like I'm sure we will see an updated version of the HK/HKC or likely the HK85 will come to the us at some point.
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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2017, 09:22 PM »
Sometime later next year, we will be releasing an updated version of the ETS 125, which will be identical (excluding obvious cosmetic differences like the label) to the PRO 5 LTD.

Just learned today that the new ETS 125 will be released in October 2017. It will also be renamed ETS 125 PRO and cost $190.

So...it will be cheaper than the original ETS 125 and will suck up 50 watts more of power. Also rumored, is that a hard pad will also be offered.  [cool]

Seems like the Pro 5 for only $99 was a bonus round after all.  [big grin]

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2017, 04:57 AM »
Somebody knows will be any discounts at the nearest time?
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Offline ear3

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Re: Pro 5 product name question
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2017, 12:09 PM »
Don't count on it @frezkar At most there is one a year, and it was usually a 10% thing (like for Domino XL or Kapex).  The $99 for the Pro 5 was a real outlier.  The really sweet deals come when they sell reconditioned tools, with discounts ranging from 10 to 40%.  But they have revamped the process of how they do it.  In previous years it was run by the dealers and you could just call them up and see what they had in stock.  But last year they limited it to attendees at Festool Connect.  I suspect they might continue that practice.  But who knows?

Somebody knows will be any discounts at the nearest time?
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