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« on: April 28, 2012, 06:53 PM » |
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When I place a long straight edge against the back edge stop or fence on the Kapex, it shows that the left and right fence differ by about 1 deg. When I make a cut on the right and left fence the result shows this 1 deg difference. As this piece is a single machined piece, I would expect it to be flat. Am I asking too much? Is this tolerance normal?
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2012, 07:01 PM » |
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A one degree error is not normal .. that's very significant to me.
Talk to Festool service, There's a technique, setup or KAPEX problem in there somewhere!
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2012, 08:39 PM » |
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Peter, you posted back in October of 2010 about the gauge being off by 0.5 degrees. Did you ever resolve that problem or is this is same issue? We have a three year warranty on our tools. If you think there's a problem with your Kapex, my recommendation would be to take advantage of our warranty and get it fixed. I would highly suggest that you contact our service department. They can help offer assistance and help determine the best course for getting any problem(s) resolved.
The Kapex is arguably the most accurate saw available for the money. The tolerances are very high and you shouldn't see it being off by a full degree.
Shane
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 12:56 PM » |
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Shane,
Thank you for the quick reply. I resloved the gage issue by some very careful adjustments. But this cannot be adjusted. I will talk to service and see if there is a real issue or something I do not understand.
Peter
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 08:40 PM » |
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I have looked at 2 other Kapex saws and they do not have the difference in the angel of the back fence on either side. I removed the the four bolts holding this in place and foud that they were toqured down very hard. When I looked at the flatness of the fench side to side, it was better off the saw. I then sanded it down on a glass plate. ( A bit over the top, but it was off the saw so why not? ). I reattached it to the saw making it tight, but not so tight as to bend it. This fixed the issue. A straight edge placed against the fence now shows that both sides are lined up. So I guess that the bolts holding the fence in place seem to have been torqued down too hard and distotred it a bit. also it was not machined perfectly or was very slightly bent when installed. I have fixed the problem, but now have to reset the gage to 90 deg. But my issue is resolved. Thanks for letting me know that it was out of tollerance.
Peter
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2012, 09:04 PM » |
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That sounds very resourceful ... My approach is to put things in the boot of the car, drive, then take it out and say "it's not working right - help"  Glad you have it sorted. I'd be interested in knowing if there's factory torque setting for the various bolts. |
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 10:30 PM » |
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I'd be interested in knowing if there's factory torque setting for the various bolts.
Having seen the production line in operation, everything is very precise. So, yes. Do I know what those specs are? Nope. |
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2012, 10:33 PM » |
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I'd be interested in knowing if there's factory torque setting for the various bolts.
Having seen the production line in operation, everything is very precise. So, yes. Do I know what those specs are? Nope. I remember someone telling me it was guttentight....... |
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2012, 10:35 PM » |
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Having seen the production line in operation, everything is very precise. So, yes. Do I know what those specs are? Nope.
I remember someone telling me it was guttentight....... Ah, yes. That's it.   You must be getting your material from Sedge. |
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 07:08 PM » |
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I have looked at 2 other Kapex saws and they do not have the difference in the angel of the back fence on either side. I removed the the four bolts holding this in place and foud that they were toqured down very hard. When I looked at the flatness of the fench side to side, it was better off the saw. I then sanded it down on a glass plate. ( A bit over the top, but it was off the saw so why not? ). I reattached it to the saw making it tight, but not so tight as to bend it. This fixed the issue. A straight edge placed against the fence now shows that both sides are lined up. So I guess that the bolts holding the fence in place seem to have been torqued down too hard and distotred it a bit. also it was not machined perfectly or was very slightly bent when installed. I have fixed the problem, but now have to reset the gage to 90 deg. But my issue is resolved. Thanks for letting me know that it was out of tollerance.
Peter
What you did, apart from the flattening on a glass plate, is a well known way to get the back fence of a miter swa true. Though you tighten one side down first then flex the fence while tightening th other using a reference straight edge. I'm not suggesting it for the kapex but it's useful to know for the other tools we have. |
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