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Offline wiremup

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VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« on: August 26, 2018, 10:03 PM »
I just received my VAC SYS Accessory Set in the mail and was a bit surprised to see that is came with the older Systainer and not the T-Loc style. All my other Festool tools are in the T-Loc style. My Sys Vac Clamp is due in Tuesday, will this to be in the older style? Seems a shame to speed $1400 and then turn around and spend another $200 on T-Loc systainers.

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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2018, 10:12 PM »
The Vac Sys in NA only comes in the traditional Systainer. I don't think the items will fit in a T-Loc.

Tom

Offline wiremup

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2018, 10:19 PM »
Thank you

Offline neilc

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2018, 11:24 PM »
I got all the heads except the large round one to fit in a Sys1.  It's usually stored on the Vac Sys unit in that T-loc, which I converted to T-loc and sold the old style.  Used my CNC to make holders for the other heads.  Much more space efficient in a Sys 1 T-loc.


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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2018, 08:15 AM »
As @tjbnwi mentioned, the VAC SYS won't fit in one of the standard T-Loc Systainers. Additionally, the VAC SYS tends to be used as a stationary tool -- not one that is often transported and/or stored when not in use -- so lack of T-Loc Systainer seemed like a minimal issue.

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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2018, 09:17 AM »
Makes you wish they'd drop the systainers altogether for the vac sys and shave another $100 off the price.

Offline jdm5

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2018, 10:20 AM »
I got all the heads except the large round one to fit in a Sys1.  It's usually stored on the Vac Sys unit in that T-loc, which I converted to T-loc and sold the old style.  Used my CNC to make holders for the other heads.  Much more space efficient in a Sys 1 T-loc.

Care to share your cnc files for this?  I’d be interested in exploring this.
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Offline neilc

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2018, 10:44 AM »
Sorry - I don't have the CNC files, but here's some photos that might help.  This stores the three heads in a Sys 1.  I leave the round head on the main unit, also in a T-loc systainer when the unit is stored.  This works for me as I mostly work in a shop environment.

It's essentially the same base replicated three times with some sanding as I recall and then glued to the bottom of the Systainer.  A couple of blocks are also glued in place to hold the pads in place.

I believe I drew them in Fusion 360 - simple arcs to hold the heads with some flat faces.

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« Last Edit: August 27, 2018, 04:12 PM by neilc »

Offline grbmds

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2018, 01:59 PM »
Seems a shame to speed $1400 and then turn around and spend another $200 on T-Loc systainers.

Rarely am I critical about Festool because I figure I didn't have to buy the tool. However, you are absolutely right in this case. It should have come in a T-Loc Systainer. If it makes sense to supply it in a systainer  at all then the excuse that it may mostly be used as a stationary tool isn't a good one. By the way, I love my VacSys, regardless of the the old style Systainer. Never sorry I bought it as it has come in handy many times.

Never tried a Sys1. Does it hold the round head and that's the one I actually use least and need to store the most.
Randy

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2018, 03:17 PM »
Never tried a Sys1. Does it hold the round head and that's the one I actually use least and need to store the most.

No, but all 4 vac heads will fit into a SYS 2 T-loc.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2018, 07:26 PM by Cheese »

Offline James Biddle

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2018, 06:39 PM »
As @tjbnwi mentioned, the VAC SYS won't fit in one of the standard T-Loc Systainers. Additionally, the VAC SYS tends to be used as a stationary tool -- not one that is often transported and/or stored when not in use -- so lack of T-Loc Systainer seemed like a minimal issue.

(Tyler)

C'mon Tyler.  Festool introduced the T-loc as a better system and many of us agreed and have been upgrading to them because we like the ease of use.  But, now Festool says the old style is OK because we 'tend' not to move it a lot?  What was the purpose of shipping it in a Systainer at all?  Where do we 'tend' to use the vacuum that shipped in a box?  I have this big Systainer orphan amongst my T-locs.  I'm not critiquing you, only the company.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2018, 08:25 PM »
To be fair... Tyler said it won't fit in a T Loc

Offline JD2720

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2018, 08:42 PM »
To be fair... Tyler said it won't fit in a T Loc


Offline neilc

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2018, 08:55 PM »
The heads will fit.  The base will fit.   I got three of them in a Sys 1.  You could easily get all four in a Sys 2 or larger.

Festool just has to redo the foam so it will fit all three heads.

Also, I was able to put the VacSys base in a standard T-loc using the Festool foam and some slight trimming with an x-acto knife.  Took maybe 5 minutes to get it to fit.


neil
« Last Edit: August 27, 2018, 08:59 PM by neilc »

Offline Don Ware

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2018, 11:44 PM »
Nice Job !!!!!!! I was a Cabinet installer for about 40 years. I use this thing all the time !!!! I work at Anderson Plywood now. But I see many different ways to use it on the job site !!!!!!! This is one of my favorite Festool Toy's !!!!!
Don Ware
Anderson Plywood Sales
Culver City, California

Offline SRSemenza

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Re: VAC SYS Accessory Set Systainer
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2018, 12:16 AM »
   My understanding on why no T-Loc is that basically it has not been redesigned. It was originally done in a Classic Sys and was NAINA for many years. And the pump was / is also in a Classic Sys ....................... but not in the North American market (the pump that is). The whole system is still in Classic Systainers, has not been redesigned for T-Locs since inception and the pump in a Sys is NAINA. Unlike other tools that are simply placed into a Systainer the pump unit is integrated. So it is not such an easy transition from the old Sys to the new for the pump unit.

Seth