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Offline p532

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Vecturo Starlock
« on: November 26, 2016, 06:54 PM »
Are there any plans to update the Vecturo the Starlock quick connect anytime soon?     

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2016, 09:40 AM »
There aren't any updates to the Vecturo coming in the immediate future.

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2016, 12:15 PM »
The new Fein blades are Star Lock compatible.  Picked some up and they work great!

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2016, 05:11 PM »
Thanks everyone for the information. This weekend I had a friend help me with a project.  He refused to take any money but when I offered him my MultiMaster FMM250Q he could not refuse. Now it's time for me to upgrade.   

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2016, 09:28 AM »
We've got an adapter.

http://www.festoolproducts.com/fein-35222952050-starlock-adapter-for-supercut-vecturo.html

Shane, could you please elaborate on the slightly part in
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your blades may be slightly offset from center when using this adapter, but this will not affect functionality
especially in conjunction with the festool OS-AH addon?

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2016, 09:58 AM »
@Gregor,

First, we don't ship internationally, but I'm sure you can find the adapter in Germany.

When you insert the adapter, it's possible that it will not be perfectly aligned with the body of the tool. Meaning that the blade may be a couple of degrees off-center. But, it's not a big deal for any application that I can think of since the blade oscillates anyway. So, perfect alignment is not an issue, even with the plunge base for the Vecturo.
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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2016, 11:17 AM »
Thanks everyone for the information. This weekend I had a friend help me with a project.  He refused to take any money but when I offered him my MultiMaster FMM250Q he could not refuse. Now it's time for me to upgrade.   
If you're upgrading get the multimaster 350 then. Cuts much faster than the old 250 , less vibration & less noise.

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2016, 12:03 PM »
Be aware that the Multimaster 350 comes in two versions currently!  The old, sell-through one, the 350Q and the new 350QSL.  The difference is in the blade attachment.  The Q had a quick release pin lock and the new QSL does away with that and has a quick release snap fit which is better.  Google Youtube for video demos.

UK members who are quick can pick up a 350QSL MM kit with a whole bunch of blades included, all for £190 in the Black Friday sales at Miles Tool & Machinery in the UK (I have no connection or interest)

BTW - General Question:  [scratch chin]
Can anyone confirm that the new Fein Multimaster 350QSL fully fits the Festool depth stop and positioning aids?  I've seen various comments but I'm unclear if:
1) the collars are the same size, or if a shim is required for the Fein?
2) normal articulation is restricted in any way?
3) if there's a gap between the base magnet and blade when it's mounted up on the new QSL snap mount

Advice gratefully received if anyone has a definitive answer before I place an order!!  [not worthy]
« Last Edit: November 28, 2016, 12:08 PM by Spiff »

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2016, 12:15 PM »
Be aware that the Multimaster 350 comes in two versions currently!  The old, sell-through one, the 350Q and the new 350QSL.  The difference is in the blade attachment.  The Q had a quick release pin lock and the new QSL does away with that and has a quick release snap fit which is better.  Google Youtube for video demos.

UK members who are quick can pick up a 350QSL MM kit with a whole bunch of blades included, all for £190 in the Black Friday sales at Miles Tool & Machinery in the UK (I have no connection or interest)

BTW - General Question:  [scratch chin]
Can anyone confirm that the new Fein Multimaster 350QSL fully fits the Festool depth stop and positioning aids?  I've seen various comments but I'm unclear if:
1) the collars are the same size, or if a shim is required for the Fein?
2) normal articulation is restricted in any way?
3) if there's a gap between the base magnet and blade when it's mounted up on the new QSL snap mount

Advice gratefully received if anyone has a definitive answer before I place an order!!  [not worthy]

Thanks for the advice.   I think the 350QSL will be a great choice.
 I too have the same questions since I would also like to get the Festool plunge and depth stops for the Vecturo. 
I'm looking to see if I can find a sale on a 350QSL here in the US today.

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2016, 10:58 AM »
Be aware that the Multimaster 350 comes in two versions currently!  The old, sell-through one, the 350Q and the new 350QSL.  The difference is in the blade attachment.  The Q had a quick release pin lock and the new QSL does away with that and has a quick release snap fit which is better.  Google Youtube for video demos.

UK members who are quick can pick up a 350QSL MM kit with a whole bunch of blades included, all for £190 in the Black Friday sales at Miles Tool & Machinery in the UK (I have no connection or interest)

BTW - General Question:  [scratch chin]
Can anyone confirm that the new Fein Multimaster 350QSL fully fits the Festool depth stop and positioning aids?  I've seen various comments but I'm unclear if:
1) the collars are the same size, or if a shim is required for the Fein?
2) normal articulation is restricted in any way?
3) if there's a gap between the base magnet and blade when it's mounted up on the new QSL snap mount

Advice gratefully received if anyone has a definitive answer before I place an order!!  [not worthy]

The Festool Plunge Base "collar" (the piece that bolts on) does not fit over the QSL mount (inside diameter of the collar is too small).  Also, the collar piece is too long to bolt on without modification.  I would suggest going with the Q model if you want to try to use the Festool Plunge Base, but modifications would still be required as well as shimming to prevent the base from hitting the body of the redesigned (350) Multimaster.  -Harry


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Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2016, 04:07 PM »
Here are some photos from my Supercut QSL:






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Offline p532

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2016, 07:10 PM »
Harry, thank you for detailed explanation and pictures of the Starlock incomparability.
This was very helpful to me. 

Offline harry_mc

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Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2017, 10:26 AM »
Harry, thank you for detailed explanation and pictures of the Starlock incomparability.
This was very helpful to me.
Glad I could be of help.

Yesterday I spent quite a bit of time modifying the Festool adapter to fit the Supercut AFSC 18v.  It required drilling out the main hole with a 1-3/8" drill.  I apparently got lucky, because I accidentally drilled it off center (toward the rear of the mount) and it still fit.  It also required trimming off a little over a quarter of an inch of the area behind the mounting screws as well as shimming the mount up and grinding down some new 12mm long screws to have a low profile head so they wouldn't interfere with mounting the plunge base.

The finished product works well, but requires one of two Fein blades, neither of which seem to be available in the USA currently, but did come with my AFSC 18v wood kit: blades 201 and 203.  Because these blades only fit the Supercut due to the Starlockmax mount, this doesn't appear to be an option for the Multimaster QSL.

I'll have to either order blades from the UK or see if they can be ordered here.

Thanks!










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Offline Jim M

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2017, 08:03 PM »
So does the Starlock adapter fit on the Fein FMM350Q?

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2017, 09:46 PM »
Jim, I believe the Starlock blades are backwards compatible with the older Multimaster quick-in mounts (and several others), so no adapter is needed.


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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2017, 10:57 PM »
Jim, I believe the Starlock blades are backwards compatible with the older Multimaster quick-in mounts (and several others), so no adapter is needed.

Yup, should be compatible.
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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2017, 06:08 AM »
Harry, thank you for detailed explanation and pictures of the Starlock incomparability.
This was very helpful to me.
The finished product works well, but requires one of two Fein blades, neither of which seem to be available in the USA currently, but did come with my AFSC 18v wood kit: blades 201 and 203.  Because these blades only fit the Supercut due to the Starlockmax mount, this doesn't appear to be an option for the Multimaster QSL.

I'll have to either order blades from the UK or see if they can be ordered here.


Thanks for the info regarding the compatibility on the new multimaster and supercut! I have been looking for this for a while. Great modification as well!

Could you elaborate on the blade problems? Why do you need these two specific blades and does this mean that there will be no option that will work on the multimaster?

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Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2017, 08:59 AM »
Hi Magpal,

The issue with the blades is finding blades as long as the Festool base that also have the proper offset 'bend' to be parallel with the base's plunge tubes.  Bosch makes a long enough blade, but it doesn't have the offset required to be parallel with the base.  There may be other blades out there, but I did not see them at the time. 

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2017, 10:47 AM »
Hi Magpal,

The issue with the blades is finding blades as long as the Festool base that also have the proper offset 'bend' to be parallel with the base's plunge tubes.  Bosch makes a long enough blade, but it doesn't have the offset required to be parallel with the base.  There may be other blades out there, but I did not see them at the time. 

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Great, thanks for the clarification. Do you happen to have a link to the blades you had success with? I could not find these in the catalog based on the "201" and "203" description.

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2017, 11:01 AM »
Here are the two blades I ordered (part number for 3pk):

63502201270 3-1/16" Length, 1-1/4" Width, SLM Mount E-Cut Long-Life Saw Blade, Pack of 3 pcs
63502203270 3-1/16" Length, 1-5/8" Width, SLM Mount E-Cut Long-Life Saw Blade, Pack of 3 pcs

When I ordered from an online supplier, they shipped directly from Fein, so at least we know they exist in the U.S.  You should be able to order them from your preferred Fein dealer.  They should also have singles and ten packs, I believe.

Thanks!  Harry

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2017, 11:13 AM »
Here are the two blades I ordered (part number for 3pk):

63502201270 3-1/16" Length, 1-1/4" Width, SLM Mount E-Cut Long-Life Saw Blade, Pack of 3 pcs
63502203270 3-1/16" Length, 1-5/8" Width, SLM Mount E-Cut Long-Life Saw Blade, Pack of 3 pcs

When I ordered from an online supplier, they shipped directly from Fein, so at least we know they exist in the U.S.  You should be able to order them from your preferred Fein dealer.  They should also have singles and ten packs, I believe.

Thanks!  Harry

Perfect, thanks!

Just a question regarding the mod. Is it possible to offset the plunge attachment plate if acquiring blades with a different offset or is the shimming height "fixed" for some reason?
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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2017, 11:56 AM »
You're welcome.

I shimmed just enough to get the Festool plunge base to clear the SuperCut body.  You might (not sure) be able to shim less, but then you wouldn't be able to rotate the Festool plunge base to the desired angle.

Thanks, Harry

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2017, 10:53 AM »
We've got an adapter.

http://www.festoolproducts.com/fein-35222952050-starlock-adapter-for-supercut-vecturo.html

@Shane Holland

I just received the adapter and some starlock blades yesterday. I was initially thinking that the adapter would allow me to quickly add the blades to my supercut, but the adapter just allows me to use the starlock blades, so no real improvement. Is there actually a benefit of using the starlock blades over the supercut blades?

Thanks,

Daniel
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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2017, 10:58 AM »
@Runhard, Starlock is just a newly designed chuck style from a joint effort between Bosch and Fein. The concept is to make changing blades much quicker and easier than the previous designs with a latch. Beyond that, there's probably not a huge difference in the design or capability.

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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2017, 11:06 AM »
@Runhard, Starlock is just a newly designed chuck style from a joint effort between Bosch and Fein. The concept is to make changing blades much quicker and easier than the previous designs with a latch. Beyond that, there's probably not a huge difference in the design or capability.

This pretty much sums it up...




Yes, just adding the adapter to my supercut (non starlock) doesn't give me the benefit of the quick blade change. So the adapter to my supercut has no real benefit.
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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2017, 11:07 AM »
It has to be used in conjunction with Starlock blades to realize the benefit.
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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2017, 12:17 PM »
I am using the new starlock blades. There is no difference from using the supercut with supercut blades. I still have to use the locking lever to attach the starlock blades even when using the new starlock adapter.
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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2017, 12:34 PM »
Runhard, you are correct, the only thing the adapter does is allow you to use the Starlock blades with your non-Starlock Supercut or Vecturo.  It does not add the quick change capability.


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Re: Vecturo Starlock
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2017, 04:12 PM »
Runhard, you are correct, the only thing the adapter does is allow you to use the Starlock blades with your non-Starlock Supercut or Vecturo.  It does not add the quick change capability.


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Thanks!

I guess I just wasted a few bucks.  [tongue]
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