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Hi, I have a need to remove some old lino glue, after lifting off the years old linoleum have found the glue has gone black. When we try sand it with standard belts they go tacky and gummy and clog the belt sander something chronic. I thought I'd try my rotex with granat paper. Is this the better alternative? What other paper/s should I try?
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2012, 04:27 PM » |
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Lower the speed on your Rotex to reduce heat build up which will reactivate that glue. Also, use light pressure, let the abrasive do the work.
My recommendation would be Saphir as an abrasive.
Other forum members may have some experience with this application and can share their experiences.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 04:59 PM » |
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I took a bunch of old glue off a backsplash with the RO 90 and Granat P60. I removed the Formica that was wrapped up the wall from the counter top. It rolled the glue into little balls and they were left on the counter top. It worked great.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2012, 05:58 PM » |
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Is sanding really the best option here? Why not scrape it off?
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2012, 08:52 PM » |
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I used a scraper on my son's house after we removed the lino and it worked great and fast. Get a scraper with a poll handle and save your back.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2012, 08:59 PM » |
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I fully realize that there are national and international differences, but it is quite possible that the old adhesive you are trying to remove - if it is old enough - may contain asbestos. If it is black it is quite possibly an oil based product and trying some mineral spirits on it to soften then scrape might also be an avenue to try.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2012, 09:20 PM » |
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Is sanding really the best option here? Why not scrape it off?
These old mastics would clog sandpaper pretty quickly. And if there is asbestos you certainly don't want it air borne. Applying heat - hot water, heat gun may soften the mastic making it easier to scrape. |
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2012, 10:19 PM » |
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Thanks for the hints and tips everyone, much appreciated. We will try both ideas, sanding and scraping and see which is more effective.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2012, 10:10 AM » |
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Old lino! I would be checking for aspestos. If you are doing a large area, you may want to rent a sander to do the dirty work. You may also be able to heat, soften and scrape to remove most excess.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2012, 10:29 AM » |
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I have removed too much old flooring in my career as a Lino installer. I would suggest a combination of things. First off, a good dust mask just in case the adhesive contains asbestos. Next, a 4"razor scraper to take off the glue, removing about 90%. Then use the rotex for the remainder. I suggest against chemical strippers since they will soak into the flooring and later cause discoloration.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2012, 01:09 PM » |
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You need the Festool TPE-RS 100  :  Might be a bit expensive for a one time job though  . |
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2012, 06:17 PM » |
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I have removed too much old flooring in my career as a Lino installer. I would suggest a combination of things. First off, a good dust mask just in case the adhesive contains asbestos. Next, a 4"razor scraper to take off the glue, removing about 90%. Then use the rotex for the remainder. I suggest against chemical strippers since they will soak into the flooring and later cause discoloration.
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Yes thanks, scraping, that's seems like the best option. I'll let you all know once I've tried it on a small patch next weekend. Think I'll bring along the rotex and whatever else I have at hand and give them all a try, but the scraper may just do. I didn'te think about the solvents discolouring the timber so nice you mentioned that. thanks |
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