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Offline harry_

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5mm shelf pins
« on: June 07, 2010, 01:31 AM »
I have a project coming up where I will be using the LR32 system for boring shelf holes. I am curious to know that the folks here in the states are using for shelf pins for 5mm holes. That which I have perused on the internet so far are 4mm. Links would be greatly appreciated!

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Offline Peter Halle

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Re: 5mm shelf pins
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2010, 04:00 AM »
Harry,

You can get pins from McFeelys, Woodcraft, Rockler, etc.

I just use the plain ones from Rockler.
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Offline Frank Pellow

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Re: 5mm shelf pins
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2010, 05:17 AM »
I really like these ones from Lee Valley: http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/page.aspx?p=52895&cat=3,43648,43649

The sleeves result in a professional finished appearance and the flat side of the paddles hold shelves well.
Cheers,   
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Offline Jay Knoll

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Re: 5mm shelf pins
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2010, 06:04 AM »
I second Frank's recommendation.  I get those from a local cabinet supply house.  I made a little setting tool, a nut that fits inside the sleeve, two bolts jammed together.  The bolt protrudes out from the nut slightly less than the depth of the sleeve.  A couple of taps with a light hammer and the sleeve is set in the wood, no chance of dings.

Jay

Offline Bruce

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Re: 5mm shelf pins
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2010, 08:45 AM »
I really like these ones from Lee Valley: http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/page.aspx?p=52895&cat=3,43648,43649

The sleeves result in a professional finished appearance and the flat side of the paddles hold shelves well.
Does the 5.5mm sleeve fit OK in the 5mm hole?  Lee Valley says the sleeve outer diameter is 5.5mm.

Offline Frank Pellow

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Re: 5mm shelf pins
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2010, 08:48 AM »
I second Frank's recommendation.  I get those from a local cabinet supply house.  I made a little setting tool, a nut that fits inside the sleeve, two bolts jammed together.  The bolt protrudes out from the nut slightly less than the depth of the sleeve.  A couple of taps with a light hammer and the sleeve is set in the wood, no chance of dings.

Jay
Thanks for the idea about the setting tool Jay.  I have never had any serious dings when setting them with a small hammer, but there is always the possibility, so I think I will take a stab at making such a setting tool.
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Offline wooden

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Re: 5mm shelf pins
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2010, 11:30 AM »
I really like these ones from Lee Valley: http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/page.aspx?p=52895&cat=3,43648,43649

The sleeves result in a professional finished appearance and the flat side of the paddles hold shelves well.
Does the 5.5mm sleeve fit OK in the 5mm hole?  Lee Valley says the sleeve outer diameter is 5.5mm.

No, you need a larger hole to put the sleeve in.  The 5mm designation is for the paddle, the sleeve is larger.

The nicer ones are turned brass:

http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/page.aspx?p=40183&cat=3,43648,43649&ap=1


But you have to drill the holes without tearout and to the correct depth because the sleeves don't have a lip to cover any tearout or to act as a stop when setting the sleeves.

Offline Wood_Junkie

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Re: 5mm shelf pins
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2010, 12:11 PM »
I second Frank's recommendation.  I get those from a local cabinet supply house.  I made a little setting tool, a nut that fits inside the sleeve, two bolts jammed together.  The bolt protrudes out from the nut slightly less than the depth of the sleeve.  A couple of taps with a light hammer and the sleeve is set in the wood, no chance of dings.

Jay
Thanks for the idea about the setting tool Jay.  I have never had any serious dings when setting them with a small hammer, but there is always the possibility, so I think I will take a stab at making such a setting tool.

Lee Valley sells two of these, actually.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/page.aspx?cat=3,43648&p=54952

The lesser being only $9.50 (but unclear if it will work with the sleeves you linked).

Offline Bruce

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Re: 5mm shelf pins
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2010, 01:34 PM »
Thanks, Tim!

Offline Jon Hilgenberg

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Re: 5mm shelf pins
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2010, 06:20 PM »
Try Hafele (you would need to open an account, which is easy), or CShardware.  They cost pennies each  at Hafele( think it's something like .0173 center per shelf pin, for a 5mm)  Item # 282.04.711 nickel plated, page 129 in hafele catalogue.

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