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Offline bkharman

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Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« on: March 27, 2015, 12:09 PM »
I am looking to get some BB ply (18mm/.75) and have made a few phone calls to the #s I know in my area (Cincinnati).  He qouted me the following:

  • 5x5 - $62
  • 4x8 - $113

I have no clue if that is a good price or not.  He also did mention that they carry a few Columbia products but I would have to come in to take a look.

I called my usual lumber yard for something similar, but they dont do BB, he did say they have high quality "Domestic Ply" that is comparable to BB for $86 a sheet.  I guess I would have to see if that works for my projects (kids furniture, some shop cabinets/jigs)

Do these prices seem decent?  I am going to HD to see what kind of price I can get on some Columbia products but haven't had a chance yet.  Also, if anyone knows of a good sheet supplier in the Cincy area, I can run with that as well.

Cheers.  Bryan.
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Offline wtrimman

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2015, 12:24 PM »
Where I am from (okie)Baltic birch5*5*1/2 cost me $25 a sheet.

Offline Stoli

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2015, 12:39 PM »
My local wood store has 5x5x3/4 for $56.  They will also cut and ship, but I can't see how it would end up being cheaper for you unless you will save on travel/transportation costs.

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2015, 01:17 PM »
I would tell you what I pay for a 4 x 8 sheet of 18mm plywood, birch or maple.....but I'm from the wrong side of Ohio.

 [tongue]   [tongue]   [poke]


  But $113 for unfinished is CRAZY!   My local place, Back to Nature Oak,  she has 2 sided MDF core 18mm maple or birch around $70 for a 4 x 8 sheet.       I believe I paid around $80, maybe a little more, for pre finished, both sides for maple. 

Keep looking around, I would never pay over $100 for a sheet of plywood. 

HD has 18mm maple or birch for $55.  You get what you pay for.   I had to move 3 bowed sheets just to pick out 4 good sheets. 
For shop cabinets, HD or Lowe's will be fine.  But I wouldn't build furniture with it.

So now it seems like YOUR on the wrong side of Ohio !      [tongue]

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Offline sae

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2015, 01:20 PM »
Did they mention what grade it is?

Offline bkharman

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2015, 01:23 PM »
HA!

Thanks Eric... I hear your Dawg Pound might be the next Hard Knocks candidates.  Drunk Johnny football does not make for a good team, but it DOES make good TV...   [wink] [poke]

The HD reference would be with their Pro Desk to order to store Columbia Products... none of their off the shelf rubbish.

I might pick of some of the 5x5's, they actually will do a majority of what I need.  I can use my sheet calculator to see what kind of change we are talking about on my projects... that just means that I need to finalize my plans!  better get cracking!

Thanks everyone for your .02, I appreciate it.
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Offline T. Ernsberger

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2015, 01:32 PM »
Thats too much money.  I can get b2 birch for $60 a sheet.   

Offline RL

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2015, 02:14 PM »
I wouldn't dismiss HD too quickly. My local HD has excellent Canadian plywood at a very fair price. I think it depends on the store.

For Baltic birch I think I paid around $65 for a 5x5 sheet at a local lumber yard c

Offline Don T

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2015, 02:21 PM »
I would tell you what I pay for a 4 x 8 sheet of 18mm plywood, birch or maple.....but I'm from the wrong side of Ohio.

 [tongue]   [tongue]   [poke]


  But $113 for unfinished is CRAZY!   My local place, Back to Nature Oak,  she has 2 sided MDF core 18mm maple or birch around $70 for a 4 x 8 sheet.       I believe I paid around $80, maybe a little more, for pre finished, both sides for maple. 

Keep looking around, I would never pay over $100 for a sheet of plywood. 

HD has 18mm maple or birch for $55.  You get what you pay for.   I had to move 3 bowed sheets just to pick out 4 good sheets. 
For shop cabinets, HD or Lowe's will be fine.  But I wouldn't build furniture with it.

So now it seems like YOUR on the wrong side of Ohio !      [tongue]

Eric
Eric he is looking for Baltic Birch not Birch.  I can can get 5 x5 BB for around $57 but I can get a 4 x 8 sheet of birch ply for $45.
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Offline HMR

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2015, 02:43 PM »
BKHarman- retail for 4x8 sheets of 18mm Baltic Birch, unfinished, in my area (San Diego) is $60.  This is for high quality sheets.  I use it for plywood-on-edge Danish Modern style furniture with excellent results.  The prices you've been quoted sound way too high.

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2015, 02:46 PM »
Pricing depends on the grade.  For BB grade, I pay about $25 for 1/2", 5x5.

Offline bkharman

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2015, 02:54 PM »
Yeah... I thought it sounded high as well.  I am hoping someone in my area will take a look and get me a decent vendor to look into.

thanks everyone!

Cheers.  Bryan.
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Offline bkharman

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2015, 04:21 PM »
OK, I have found a place that has "offshore" baltic birch (can you really call it that?), 13 ply, no voids, "very solid core" according to the yard manager, in 4x8 for 35 bucks.  I am going up there to check it out tomorrow.  He said the faces are farily thin and not suited for a lot of sanding for stain, but my projects right now are all shop related and organization so I am fine with that.

They also have BB grade "true" baltic birch for 75 a pop (also 4x8).

I will let you know how I get along with this...

Cheers.  Bryan.
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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2015, 04:54 PM »
I just picked up a sheet today from my local supplier here in Phoenix. BB Baltic, 13 ply, 18mm, 4x8, $67. For the work I do, I use a lot of it, but only buy a couple sheets at a time. I have seen 4x8 up to $80 a sheet. 5x5 up to $60.

Offline T. Ernsberger

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2015, 08:19 PM »
OK, I have found a place that has "offshore" baltic birch (can you really call it that?), 13 ply, no voids, "very solid core" according to the yard manager, in 4x8 for 35 bucks.  I am going up there to check it out tomorrow.  He said the faces are farily thin and not suited for a lot of sanding for stain, but my projects right now are all shop related and organization so I am fine with that.

They also have BB grade "true" baltic birch for 75 a pop (also 4x8).

I will let you know how I get along with this...

Cheers.  Bryan.

That shop has good prices.   Import stuff is hit/miss.   When buying rub your hand over the surface and make sure theres no bubbling.    Sometimes the top vinear will not be completely glued and will get bubbles under the surface.   I built some bookcases and had a major issue with bubbling.    I had to redo all my work.   Since than my local lumber yard quit selling import ply.   

Also my local Lowes has maple 3/4 ply for 49.99 a sheet.   Its really good quality and holds up well to stain and paint.   

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2015, 09:12 PM »
If you haven't already, give Frank Miller Lumber a call (888-345-5711). My price sheet is a little out of date, but it has 5x5, 3/4" Baltic Birch for $48 if you have to pay full price, or $42 business pricing. They also have 4x8 sheets of "Dynasty Birch" (i.e. China ply) at the same price. They're a few hours away from Cinci, but they deliver for free with a $100 order. They're such a pleasure to work with that I've stopped messing with the suppliers close by.

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Offline Don T

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2015, 10:18 PM »
I just picked up a sheet today from my local supplier here in Phoenix. BB Baltic, 13 ply, 18mm, 4x8, $67. For the work I do, I use a lot of it, but only buy a couple sheets at a time. I have seen 4x8 up to $80 a sheet. 5x5 up to $60.
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Offline leer

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2015, 12:11 AM »
The "Baltic" in baltic birch means "from the baltic states or baltic region" -- so you are probably looking at Finland or even Russia as the source for "genuine" baltic birch.  Anything else is "offshore" ...   ;D

Prices vary just with one supplier because of grade, number of plies, etc.  So you have to be careful when you see a full sheet for $35.  I'd bet it is not high-quality baltic birch plywood.  Last time I checked, my local small lumber store wanted over $50 for a 5X5 sheet for pretty nice looking, high-ply-count sheets with zero voids.  My local Home Depot and Lowes just carry junk, but I guess it will vary by regions.
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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2015, 12:47 PM »
I am looking to get some BB ply (18mm/.75) and have made a few phone calls to the #s I know in my area (Cincinnati).  He qouted me the following:

  • 5x5 - $62
  • 4x8 - $113

I have no clue if that is a good price or not.  He also did mention that they carry a few Columbia products but I would have to come in to take a look.

I called my usual lumber yard for something similar, but they dont do BB, he did say they have high quality "Domestic Ply" that is comparable to BB for $86 a sheet.  I guess I would have to see if that works for my projects (kids furniture, some shop cabinets/jigs)

Do these prices seem decent?  I am going to HD to see what kind of price I can get on some Columbia products but haven't had a chance yet.  Also, if anyone knows of a good sheet supplier in the Cincy area, I can run with that as well.

Cheers.  Bryan.

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2015, 02:27 PM »
Yes, "Baltic Birch" tend to come out of our seats... is exported steamers.

4x8 sheet costs $30 - $40
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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2015, 02:39 PM »
I am on the hunt for a BB supplier in the Boston area. So far I was referred to one company but their prices are higher than most of those quoted in this thread:

http://www.boulterplywood.com/MultiLayerPlywood_4.htm

Perhaps I should start a new thread, but does anybody know of a good source of BB in my neck of the woods (Burlington, MA) - north of Boston?

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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2015, 02:52 PM »
I question that being true Baltic Birch right off the bat.  I saw this post and immediately called my supplier to make sure what I thought was correct.

By definition Baltic Birch plywood is unique because of it's all-birch veneer core that's cross-banded and laminated with EXTERIOR grade glue. Otherwise its NOT Baltic Birch.

It seems to me the only true Baltic Burch they sell are the 60"x60" sheets. The rest is just Birch ply. If it not exterior rated adhesive(even marine grade) it's not Baltic Birch.

If you look at the edge of the ply and it couldn't be used for drawer edges it's more than likely a Chinese knock off . If the veneer layers are uneven or cross over each other, it's not Baltic birch. Getting 4x8 sheets in true Baltic Birch isn't easy, most of its the 5'x5' sheets. And when it's in a 4x8 it's very expensive. For me it's well worth it, I use Baltic Birch and Marine Ply everyday.

http://www.woodworkerssource.com/blog/tips-tricks/your-ultimate-guide-to-baltic-birch-plywood-why-its-better-when-to-use-it/

Again, Birch Ply is Not Baltic Birch and I believe  many places incorrectly sell them interchangeably, especially when we look at online stores.
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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2015, 06:56 PM »
I question that being true Baltic Birch right off the bat.  I saw this post and immediately called my supplier to make sure what I thought was correct.

By definition Baltic Birch plywood is unique because of it's all-birch veneer core that's cross-banded and laminated with EXTERIOR grade glue. Otherwise its NOT Baltic Birch.

It seems to me the only true Baltic Burch they sell are the 60"x60" sheets. The rest is just Birch ply. If it not exterior rated adhesive(even marine grade) it's not Baltic Birch.

If you look at the edge of the ply and it couldn't be used for drawer edges it's more than likely a Chinese knock off . If the veneer layers are uneven or cross over each other, it's not Baltic birch. Getting 4x8 sheets in true Baltic Birch isn't easy, most of its the 5'x5' sheets. And when it's in a 4x8 it's very expensive. For me it's well worth it, I use Baltic Birch and Marine Ply everyday.

http://www.woodworkerssource.com/blog/tips-tricks/your-ultimate-guide-to-baltic-birch-plywood-why-its-better-when-to-use-it/

Again, Birch Ply is Not Baltic Birch and I believe  many places incorrectly sell them interchangeably, especially when we look at online stores.

I believe Woodworkers mixed Baltic Birch up with Finnish Birch.  Baltic Birch is from the Baltic region of Russia.  Most of what comes to the US is NOT exterior glue-line.  The pictures on their website do not show exterior glue-lines.  You would see a very dark glue-line if it was exterior. 

All of the 4x8 Baltic Birch I have seen is exterior glue-line- which explains why it is more expensive.  The Phenolic resins used for exterior glues and take longer to set in the press so production costs are higher and productivity is lower.
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Re: Baltic Birch Plywood: Good price?
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2015, 11:17 PM »
I am on the hunt for a BB supplier in the Boston area. So far I was referred to one company but their prices are higher than most of those quoted in this thread:

http://www.boulterplywood.com/MultiLayerPlywood_4.htm

Perhaps I should start a new thread, but does anybody know of a good source of BB in my neck of the woods (Burlington, MA) - north of Boston?

Probably the closest you found already. Woodcraft, Woburn have some as does Rockler in Salem. Woodery in Lunenburg is good, but Boulter is closer. Some of the good lumber yards will special order, like Concord Lumber. South of Boston you have Downes and Reader but that's way too far. Try woodfinder as well. I'm also north of Boston.