HowardH
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« on: February 3, 2010, 10:10 PM » |
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do you enjoy it as part of the process? I used to - until I found a local hardwood dealer, Brazos Forest Products. I needed some poplar to build painted Adirondack chairs. I called them up and they said they could joint and surface 4/4 boards to 13/16 for $1.75 bd/ft! The big box stores sell the same thing for around $6.50 bd/ft. I used to buy what I needed at Woodcraft for $2.90, wheel out my noisy, massive dust spewing, Dewalt 735 and then plane away for an hour or two. I can't afford not to have them do it, considering they have a huge planer that will surface the wood to the degree I need it and I won't fill up my dust collector. The time savings on my project will be nice as well since I won't have to waste time preparing instead of building. I don't think I'll be selling my planer and jointer anytime soon but it's nice to know I can call them up and have it ready and waiting for me when I get there. That's great service!
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EcoFurniture
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« Reply #1 on: February 3, 2010, 10:34 PM » |
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Small amounts I process in my shop. Anything wider then 12", hardwood and anything that will take more then an hour and new blades will get outsourced. I have a company in town that charges $90/hour for their two sided planer and thickness sander. You would be amazed how much they can do within an hour! Well worth it.
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Andreas
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HowardH
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« Reply #2 on: February 3, 2010, 11:12 PM » |
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I should clarify one thing. That $1.75 bd/ft for Poplar isn't the extra cost to surface it. It is the cost of the wood after surfacing.  That is just unbelievably cheap in my book. |
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Howard H
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Shelby Metcalf, basketball coach at Texas A&M, recounting what he told a player who received four F's and one D: "Son, looks to me like you're spending too much time on one subject."
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Wood_Junkie
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« Reply #3 on: February 3, 2010, 11:29 PM » |
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I usually do my own milling/prepping. But a recent project required several hundred lineal feet of 1x4's of QSRO. For $0.55 a foot, a lumber shop down the road a ways straight lined both sides and surface planed it to 13/16" (per my request). Came out great and with one single pass through my own planer and 1 minute of hand sanding (it's just red oak, LOL...) for a face-side cleanup it was ready for routing, staining and finishing. Prepping all that lumber would've taken me *weeks*. Well worth the $200 or so. That was hours and hours and hours I got spend with my family and on other side projects. I have a big pile of black walnut that's destined for some projects.. I might haul it down there, pay, and haul it back. ;-) |
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Tom Bellemare
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« Reply #4 on: February 3, 2010, 11:31 PM » |
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Howard:
I live in Austin and BFP is my provider of choice here. I think you hit on something...
Tom
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HowardH
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« Reply #5 on: February 3, 2010, 11:41 PM » |
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I saw where they are just off of Ben White and 35. May have stop by on my next trip down to San Antonio!
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Howard H
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Shelby Metcalf, basketball coach at Texas A&M, recounting what he told a player who received four F's and one D: "Son, looks to me like you're spending too much time on one subject."
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« Reply #6 on: February 4, 2010, 02:02 AM » |
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Please look me up also, Howard, I'm on the way...
Tom
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Frank Pellow
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« Reply #7 on: February 4, 2010, 09:09 AM » |
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Yes I do. Mostly I use my Delta 8 inch jointer and 15 Delta 15 inch planer; but sometimes I make use of my ACM 400 milimetre band saw and even resort to a thin kerf blade on my General 650 table saw.
I quite like milling and the added options that it provides me for sources of wood. Many of the places that I purchase rough-sawn wood will mill it for you, but it is expensive to have them do so.
On some large jobs I have considered getting the lumber milled but have not found anywhere that will do it for me at a price that I am willing to pay. By the way, that is also the case for most work (both woodworking and non-woodworking) that I do. Sometimes pay for it but seldom have I found quality work available at a good (for me) price.
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Cheers,
Frank
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Steve Rowe
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« Reply #8 on: February 4, 2010, 07:16 PM » |
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I purchase all my wood in the rough (except for secondary woods which I usually order S2S with SLR) and mill it myself. I do so to get the flatest and straightest boards possible. I can usually extract thicker pieces from milling myself as well.
Steve
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festooltim
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« Reply #9 on: February 4, 2010, 10:16 PM » |
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When doing a big project i prefer buying straight from the saw mill. I have have bought it just rough or just one edge for cabinets i found it best to get it planned at 13/16 then i can glue up my panels and clean them up in the planner. The mill was usually a little rough on their planer marks so i like to make the final clean up pass. I had a 18 inch Delta planer so hogging down rough board was no problem but the clean up was no fun.
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Rey Johnson
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« Reply #10 on: February 6, 2010, 04:08 PM » |
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For me, milling is part of the fun project. My projects are more for leisure/hobby though. If time were money for my projects, I think I'd outsource the larger quantities.
Rey
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« Reply #11 on: February 6, 2010, 09:51 PM » |
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There is something to be said for making a pile of sawdust and shaping and sanding, its kind of therapeutic just doing something simple with a satisfaction of seeing a result.
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« Reply #12 on: February 6, 2010, 09:52 PM » |
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My local mill straight lines all the lumber (at least all the lumber I buy) and has most of it planed to 5/4 or 6/4, thier planer marks are a bit much to sand out so it always get a couple of trips through my planer. The amazing part is I can get 5/4 to make in to 3/4 for less then I can get 3/4 for at the lumber yard.
I was showing them how to use a ts75 to straight line some 2" thick walnut slabs that were to big for thier saw. I convinced them it was a better option then a chain saw.
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HowardH
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« Reply #13 on: February 7, 2010, 07:20 PM » |
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I was in Lowes today and was cruising around their lumber area. They have s4s poplar for the equivalent of $4.10 bd/ft. I wonder if I showed them my receipt for Brazos Forest Lumber for the same thing at $1.75 if they would match the price? Have you ever tried?
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Howard H
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Shelby Metcalf, basketball coach at Texas A&M, recounting what he told a player who received four F's and one D: "Son, looks to me like you're spending too much time on one subject."
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