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Offline sucker 4 tools

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2015, 08:21 AM »
should of listened to you guys the ply has come and has plugs both sides and is sold as B/BB as far as i can read anywhere B grade can not have plugs in it. I really couldn't get out to pick it up and the guy ensured me it was plug free one side.
what shall i do now ?

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Offline jonny round boy

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2015, 11:25 AM »
Ring them up & tell them to come back & collect it, and deliver what you asked (and paid) for. B/BB grade should be completely free of plugs/repairs on the B side.

Alternatively, get them to collect & refund, and go elsewhere.
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Offline sucker 4 tools

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2015, 11:28 AM »
they have sent bb/ct by accident as that is what theyre suppliers have sent them ??

Offline sucker 4 tools

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2015, 12:23 PM »
what is the difference between short grain and long grain ply ? what is best for what application ? i want it for kitchen cab doors so wondering which is more stable or best out of short or long ?

Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2015, 12:34 PM »
Short and long refer to the grain direction on the visible layers (top and bottom). Short is grain parallel to the short side of the sheet, etcetera.
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Offline sucker 4 tools

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2015, 02:28 PM »
yeah thats what i thought but is it just a look thing ? i see the short grain is normally used more for bending and i want them to be as stable as poss
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Offline Jimmy FineCut

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2015, 02:32 PM »
yeah thats what i thought but is it just a look thing ? i see the short grain is normally used more for bending and i want them to be as stable as poss
cheers

Yes just visual. Long grain is what everyone normally stock.

Offline Wuffles

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2015, 03:46 PM »
Bit of a thread hijack, but on a similar vein.

I'm about to purchase some BB/CP for about £37 a sheet for 18mm, will this be ok for making up some pan drawers for the missus do you think oh knowledgeable ones? I've checked with them and they reckon (as people do on the phone) that their BB is more like a B in reality, but it's still called a BB.
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Offline Jimmy FineCut

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2015, 02:55 AM »

I've checked with them and they reckon (as people do on the phone) that their BB is more like a B in reality, but it's still called a BB.

Yea should be fine and I would agree with this.

Offline Wuffles

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2015, 03:02 AM »
The last drawers were made out of construction grade, so whatever it is it'll be posh. I believe that to be a decent price too, someone chime in if not.
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Offline sucker 4 tools

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2015, 03:49 AM »
its a good price but it wont be like b grade if its bb as it will have plugs on it both sides and will not be very smooth, everyone says bb is like b but its not, if you dont care about plugs or your painting it then its fine, but that is a good price who's it from ?

Offline Wuffles

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2015, 04:00 AM »
its a good price but it wont be like b grade if its bb as it will have plugs on it both sides and will not be very smooth, everyone says bb is like b but its not, if you dont care about plugs or your painting it then its fine, but that is a good price who's it from ?

Apart from the fact the @Jimmy FineCut  said it'd probably be ok?

It's not plugged both sides, why would you think it would be? Why would you think it'd not be smooth both sides?
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Offline Jimmy FineCut

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2015, 04:22 AM »
its a good price but it wont be like b grade if its bb as it will have plugs on it both sides and will not be very smooth, everyone says bb is like b but its not, if you dont care about plugs or your painting it then its fine, but that is a good price who's it from ?

The 18mm BB birch I buy normally has a around 6 plugs one side and very rarely it will have one or two plugs the other. Now the 24mm bb birch I buy only has around 3 plugs one side and never on the other.

From my experiance birch ply grades do vary from the factory and possibly standards have dropped over the years.

I don't know what you mean by it won't be very smooth? Birch ply will come sanded to around the 180 grit mark and with a quick sand with 320 grit will be glass smooth, so if your buying rough birch ply you have a very low grade ply.

@Wuffles I am sure the missus will be happy with bb grade ply at £37 (the price I pay)



Offline sucker 4 tools

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2015, 05:51 AM »
im saying it will be fine for what your doing but yes all the grades and different suppliers are completely different quality's and untill you see them you just dont know, i think standards have dropped. I have ordered b/bb and ended up with bb/cp the supplier didnt even notice or know until i complained as b should not have any plugs for me plugs are a complete no no would rather see the knots etc, also the cp can potentially be a bit grainy, the grain is a bit rougher than the bb its still smooth but compared to the top stuff its not as smooth but its 1/ 3rd the price.
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Offline Jimmy FineCut

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2015, 07:24 AM »
A sheet of 24mm bb Russian birch ply I currently have in the workshop. No plugs, but one side does have a thinner top ply.





Offline Wuffles

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2015, 08:05 AM »
International Plywood probably know what they're doing @sucker 4 tools, that's where it's coming from - probably same place @Jimmy FineCut in a round about way.
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Offline sucker 4 tools

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Re: Im trying to source some good quality birch ply sheets in 18mm
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2015, 08:13 AM »
lovely wish my bb looked like that its got loads of plugs !!