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« on: October 26, 2008, 09:34 AM » |
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Good morning,
I'm aware that an increasing number of people may be viewing the FOG from one of Apple's new devices, so I'm interested in hearing from those members who do this. I'm looking into ways to optimize this site for portable devices. Also, I'm checking out ways to create a "portable" version of the site, the way sites like Amazon, Google, and others do.
Who here checks the FOG from their iPod Touch or iPhone? And do you have any suggestions?
Stay in touch,
Matthew
PS: This message was composed from my iPod Touch.
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2008, 10:00 AM » |
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i have both the ipod touch & iphone. i am always frequenting the FOG from one of the devices wether at home or on the go. i don't mind the full site since it is on the safari browser when i am on wi-fi, but i think a mobile version could be a bit swifter for those on a slower network (and without wi-fi capabilities).
Bob
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2008, 10:41 AM » |
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I am checking in from my iPhone right now. I do it multiple times a day and always over the celluar network. Generally it runs pretty well. The only problem really is that if the thread has a bunch of photos it will take to long to load to be worth waiting for. It might be nice to have a function where you could view one comment at a time. I am often checking in on threads that I am following and all I want to see is the most recent comments without waiting for the whole thread to load. It would be a good idea to make some accomodations for mobile users, I am a contractor and this thing is what I use for 90 percent of my Internet time now. I think more and more people will be making the shift.
Oh, you won't be sorry with the iBook either. Both my wife and I have been running macs for over 10 years. I am a designer/builder/contractor and she works for the department of the interior, we both use a variety of different programs from cad to statistical analysis software and we have never had a problem. I have never met someone who switched over and then went back.
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Peter Halle
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2008, 05:29 PM » |
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Matthew,
I view the FOG on my I phone and don't have an issue. It works well for me but I may be more tolerant than some. When people quote and include the posted photos, it does slow down some.
Peter
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2008, 09:05 PM » |
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I check occasionally on my iPhone. I have no problems with the full web site.
When I am offered a mobile version of a web site I generally decline because the
experience is worse than the full version.
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Matthew Schenker
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2008, 10:12 AM » |
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Good Morning,
It's good to hear from people who access the forum from their mobile devices. I'm still new at using such devices myself, so I need to hear from members when it comes to possible enhancements to the forum.
Personally, I find that accessing the full version of the forum works fine from the iPod Touch -- better than I had thought! Perhaps there is no reason for a mobile version.
Thanks,
Matthew
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2008, 07:46 PM » |
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Matthew,
I have been using my Iphone as my main way of viewing the FOG since I became a member. It works great. When there are pictures or things I need to look at full size, then I fire up the Macbook Pro at home.
Keep up the good work you do.
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2008, 08:19 AM » |
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Matthew - You might check out http://apploop.com/It's a VERY simple app generator for the iPhone. Not yet released, but since you have RSS feeds on the site, it's something to play with. neil |
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2008, 05:35 PM » |
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Matthew - You might check out http://apploop.com/It's a VERY simple app generator for the iPhone. Not yet released, but since you have RSS feeds on the site, it's something to play with. I just looked at that page, but I can't figure out exactly how they make it work. Matthew |
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2010, 12:15 PM » |
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I know its a bit of topic but I Feel its not worth starting another topic just for a simple question.
Well my Parents are going to Las Vegas and where wondering if it would be cheaper to buy the Iphone 4 from their instead of the UK.
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Is it cheaper??!?!
Do you have to get it on contract or can you just get the phone?!?!?
Is the phone locked can it be used in the UK with no problems with full features?!?
Thank you in advance.
JMB
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2010, 12:41 PM » |
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I don't think that it work out positively for you to buy in the US and then take back to the UK for the following reasons.
You would have to buy it at either 499, or 599, or 699 USD for either the 8gb, 16gb, or 32gb models respectively. You would have to sign up for a two year ATT contract here. Then you would have to cancel that contract at a cost I believe to be 375 USD less 10 USD for every month that the contract was in place.
The international usage plan costs for the iPhones bought here and then used internationally are pretty outrageous. From what I understand, the costs for the services are more reasonable in the UK because of numerous carriers and competition. The phone prices, adapted to currency and taxes, etc are very similar.
This might not be what you wanted to hear, but...
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2010, 02:33 PM » |
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It's my understanding that phones are like razors or printers.
With razors, they give away the razor to sell you outrageously priced blades. With printers, they sell a lot of technology very cheap to get you to buy ink/toner later.
The phone is sold at little profit and sometimes a loss with a contract for service - the service is very profitable. I doubt that you could buy a phone without a contract and come out ahead because you still need the service anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2010, 03:18 PM » |
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It's my understanding that phones are like razors or printers.
With razors, they give away the razor to sell you outrageously priced blades. With printers, they sell a lot of technology very cheap to get you to buy ink/toner later.
The phone is sold at little profit and sometimes a loss with a contract for service - the service is very profitable. I doubt that you could buy a phone without a contract and come out ahead because you still need the service anyway.
Tom
Dont know where you live but here in the UK you can buy phones SIM free so no service nothing just the phone. So you then can get a pay as you go sim card or get a Mobile free Contract instead so its just a contract without a mobile. JMB |
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2010, 04:52 PM » |
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You can get an iphone 4 and have it unlocked. Then you can insert any SIM card for almost any network, including in the UK.
But there are snags, and here is one of the biggest. If you update the software at a later date, you may reverse the unlocking and have to redo it.
Many people in my office got unlocked iphones (the 3GS version) and most regretted it in time. Many apps did not work properly or they were simply unable to use them at all.
So my recommendation would be to "go legal" and get it with a contract in the UK, even if it costs you a little extra. It is not worth the hassle. I used an unlocked Sony camera phone for a couple of years, with no problems, but I only used it for calling and taking photos. With the smartphones like Blackberries and Iphones, it is a very different proposition.
Hope this info helps you decide one way or the other.
Richard.
P.S. A quick glance at ebay suggests the unlocked iphone 4 is going for about $1000 which seems nuts.
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2010, 05:09 AM » |
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The iphone's browser is amazing but I have to say after buying an HTC Desire, I have to say Android's browser is much better!
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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2010, 07:56 AM » |
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You can get an iphone 4 and have it unlocked. Then you can insert any SIM card for almost any network, including in the UK.
But there are snags, and here is one of the biggest. If you update the software at a later date, you may reverse the unlocking and have to redo it.
Many people in my office got unlocked iphones (the 3GS version) and most regretted it in time. Many apps did not work properly or they were simply unable to use them at all.
So my recommendation would be to "go legal" and get it with a contract in the UK, even if it costs you a little extra. It is not worth the hassle. I used an unlocked Sony camera phone for a couple of years, with no problems, but I only used it for calling and taking photos. With the smartphones like Blackberries and Iphones, it is a very different proposition.
Hope this info helps you decide one way or the other.
Richard.
P.S. A quick glance at ebay suggests the unlocked iphone 4 is going for about $1000 which seems nuts.
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2012, 03:22 PM » |
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Please! iPhone and iPad app would be great!
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2012, 03:29 PM » |
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The FOG supports Tapatalk which is available for iDevices and Android. http://tapatalk.com/mobile.phpShane |
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2012, 04:33 PM » |
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I use Tapatalk to read & post to the forum. My main gripe with it is that for some reason uploading pictures to the forum for hosting does not seem to work (all images are sent by default to Tapatalk's image server for hosting and it's an $1.99 in-app extra purchase to do more than 20 pics this way) and my second gripe is that one cannot use the emoticons through Tapatalk in any reasonable way (you can't see them but only the tags in parentheses  nor can you input them otherwise but knowing the tags off by heart and typing them in. Otherwise the app is brilliant. |
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2012, 05:52 PM » |
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I also use Tapatalk...it's a very generic forum style app, but it does it's job and loads rather fast! I appreciate the larger text so that I don't always have to pinch & zoom! Also, you can't upload photos through browsers on mobile devices, so the only viable option thus far is Tapatalk. Unfortunately there's not a free version or trial, but it's only a few dollars on the app store!
Hit me up if you want to know more about the app!
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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2012, 07:34 PM » |
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Bob turned me on to the app and now im on FOG all the time. Going to other forums on the iphone is now a pain. The fee is nominal, Eric
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2012, 02:35 AM » |
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Oh, and you might want to look at apps like 'App Shopper' and put up a wishlist of Apps you'd like to buy. It will notify you of price changes and show the apps pricing history.
Tapatalk regularly has $0.99 discount for the base app for example. I recall actually seeing it diacounted just last week so it might still be cheap.
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2012, 02:23 PM » |
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Actually, Google has just released Chrome for IOS and I'm writing this nicely with full web UI and emoticons on my ipad   So if you are going to FOG on an iPad this is probably the best way to do it. In reply to Bob: No pictures from Chrome  - the add files button is grayed out... |
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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2012, 02:25 PM » |
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Chrome is an amazing browser for both mobile and desktop. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw it in the app store two weeks ago!
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2012, 02:31 PM » |
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Can you post photos from Chrome in ios? I'm not a big google fan...just curious!
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« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2012, 02:58 PM » |
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I personally still haven't tried - I still use Tapatalk natively in IOS. I like Google from a software standpoint. As far as hardware - it's tough to beat Apple.
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