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« on: June 06, 2008, 07:55 AM »
An increasing number of forum members have begun using Google Sketchup for a number of purposes.  I would like to encourage members who are familiar with and who use Sketchup in their projects to share their tips and recommendations with other forum members.  Please post your Google Sketchup related posts in this section of the forum.

This is the free design software available from Google (available here).

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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2008, 03:48 PM »
OK
I have just installed Sketchup and have run into a problem right away.

Of course, once i get past the first problematic hurdle, i will quickly discover the next problem.


I have watched the instructionals on the sketchup website and Google and have been doing al sorts of crazy things.
pushing, pulling, tipping, slipping, sliding (Oh, the slipping and sliding relates to Festool problems) and so on.  I can draw pretty pictures and so long as i go with the canned dimensioning system, i can struggle thru many problems i cannot even come close to solving with my older programs (they are close to obsolete and if I upgrade my computer, they will be lost forever)

my problem seems to be scaling.

I have read the directions several times (before breakfast > and that is early for most of you) mid day and even after my evening wine (small glass>>>please)  I just cannot get it into my thick skull how to set scale.  I can draw my pics and go along with Sketchup and some ungodly fantastic dimensioning.  I could do it fine if i keep my spreadsheet open to figure 12" = 39.01329876" (or whatever) and work all out proportionally.

But how can I set scale so my lines come out 1/4"=12" (i did find woodworking in inches and found the scale tool.)  I read all i could but I will be 39-1/2 before i figure it out.  (I'd say "Old and gray", but I'm young and gray >>>prematurely)

H---E---L---P!!!  (in a language I can understand.  i admit, the online directions are as close to understandable as any electronic prompting I have tried to decipher, but I just don't fathom completely)

TIA
Tinker    (hey, i could tell you a way to keep racoons away from your corn, but computer stuff  UGH! I get lost) :o
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2008, 04:30 PM »
Bill:

If I understand your question correctly you are looking to print a scale drawing.  Normally you draw at full size and then choose the print scale under the print menu.  I see that option in my version but it is greyed out and I can't select.  That might be because my version was a trial of the full version that I did not end up buying and thus not all the capabilities are there.  They tempt you with free but if you want the stuff used by "professionals" you must buy. 

I'll look around and try to help more.

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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2008, 04:37 PM »
Tinker, I don't believe you can set the scale, SketchUp is used in 1:1 scale for working with the model on your computer. Of course it's not really to a 1:1 scale on your computer screen, I mean you type in the actual dimension you want your piece to be. If you want to print out a copy of your model/drawing you'll need to use the dimension tool to place the dimensions in the drawing.
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Peter beat my to it, he's right the pro version has options for printing to scale.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2008, 04:42 PM »
Bill:

Boy was I wrong.

Draw your drawing at full scale.

When you are ready to print click on the camera tab at the top.  If the perspective option has a check mark by it click on it to disable.  You want no check marks there.

Go back to the main screen.  In the menu bar do you see the standard view icons - they look like little houses.  select one of them to get the view you want to print.

When happy with the view then click on the file tab of the toolbar.  select print.

When that page pulls up, make sure your printer is selected.  You should see a choice to print to fit page.  uncheck that box if it is checked.  Over to the right the print to scale boxes appear and you can set you settings.

Hope that this helps.


Peter


Here is what google says:

How do I print to scale?
Switch to paraline mode by turning perspective mode off. To turn perspective mode off, open the "Camera" menu and click "Perspective" (so that a check mark is not displayed next to it).
Select a standard scalable view: Iso, Top, Front, Right, Back, or Left. To select a standard view, open the "Camera" menu, point to "Standard," and then click one of the views. Note: The scalable edges are those aligned with the axes.




PC: Open the "File" menu, and then click "Print."
Mac: Open the "File" menu, and then click "Document Setup."
In the "Print Size" section of the "Print" dialog box, clear the "Fit to page" option.
If you are in paraline mode (step 1) and have selected a standard view (step 2), the scale options in the "Print Size" (Mac: "Print Scale") section are enabled when you clear the "Fit to page" option. Set the scale you want to use.
PC: Click "OK" to print your model.
Mac: Click "OK" to save your document settings, and then print your model by opening the "File" menu, and then clicking "Print."
Note: To turn perspective mode back on, open the "Camera" menu, and then click "Perspective" again (so that the check mark is displayed to the left of it).
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2008, 04:53 PM »
Tinker I am sorry that I called you Bill.  Bill I am sorry that I used your name in vain. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2008, 06:34 AM »
Tinker I am sorry that I called you Bill.  Bill I am sorry that I used your name in vain. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Peter

Joe...er uh Peter,
All is forgiven.

thanks for the info.  I'll give it a try later this morning.

I am now into another problem.  templates.  I have made a couple of templates (trial and error) with directions from Sketchup.

When i save them (all two of them so far) they disappear.  One, the first, i have tracked down, located and relocated to where i can find it.

The second i tried tracking same way as first.  No luck.  Fooled around and finally located someplace else.  Only can find, but no way I can figure out to open or relocate.

Brings back memories of my first winter of learning how to operate my first computer.  the darned thing NEVER listened to me. (Sort of like my wife and kids  ???)

This program is very closely related.  At some point, the whole thing will reveal itself and its mystery ALL OF A SUDDEN.  That is how most of my (very few) discoveries have come with the computer stuff.  I'll keep plugging.

Thanks again
Tinker
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2008, 08:05 AM »
Good Morning Tinker:

Did you try these steps?

Template
Use the Template preferences panel to designate a SketchUp file that you would want to use as a template for all of your subsequent models.

Creating a Template
A template file contains default settings from the Model Info dialog box and base geometry. To create a template:

Select File > New menu item to start a new SketchUp file.
Modify the Model Info settings to fit your particular needs. For example, you might want to set default units and snaps, activate a ground plane, and set a geographic location.
Modify the Preference settings to fit your particular needs.
(optionally) Draw any geometry that you want to share among all of your models. For example, you might want all of your models of houses to be created within the same starting terrain (such as when you are creating models of houses within a housing development).
Select File > Save to save the SketchUp file. Save this file in the Templates directory (under the SketchUp installation directory) if you want this file to appear in the drop-down list of templates within the Preferences dialog box.
Automatically Loading a Template
You can load a template SketchUp file manually using File > Open every time you want to create a model. Or, you can identify a file as a template using the Template section of the Preferences dialog box to load the template automatically when you run SketchUp.

Select a template from the list of templates to load a template (if your SketchUp template file is in the Templates directory). Click the Browse button to locate templates that do not appear in the drop-down list.

Your template will load every time you run SketchUp.


Hope that this helps.  Let me / us know the outcome.

Peter

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2008, 09:25 AM »
Peter,
I appreciate all of your fine assistance and will print out all of your directions for later reference.

right now, i am in the midst of making space in my shop where space there AIN"T.
I'm currently getting set to make a cabinet/base/tool storage for my SCMS (Hitachi 8-1/2")

It has been stored for a couple of years as it just makes too much dust and takes up too much floor space when not in use.  i seem to have solved some of the dust problems.  space is another problem to solve.  For 1300 smackers, I could solve that one also.  Since i have the SCMS, (and in practically brandnew condition) I am designing a set of shelves/drawers for it to rest on with sliding lazy susan top shelf arrangement so i can slide it out of traffic while not in use.  I am drawing it with my old program for now.  Days are gettin' shorter and my time is gettin' hurrier.

I will be getting on with the Sketchup in another few weeks as I will have simpler drawings to make.  I'll be in touch as my experience gets a little more satisfactory.  I am really a klutz when it comes to learning new tricks with the computer.  i do much better with the more noisy toys in both WW shop and landscaping (where I can make real noise).

Tinker


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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2008, 09:32 AM »
As you go thru the learning curve with sketchup just keep in mind that there is a huge user base out there. Feel free to ask for help. Brice is a power user. I'm a rookie.

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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2008, 04:34 AM »
Thanks again Peter

Part of my problem with understanding computer lingo is i need a dictionary.  When i got my first computer, i got very frustrated as I could not figure out what the directions were talking about.  A friend tried to help me and i could not understand a thing he was talking about.  He was using the same language as the book.  i think he was more interrested in showing his knowledge than teaching.

Later, a man (who grew to be a great friend) came to my house and spent considerable time.  I learned a whole lot from him by just watching.  Very little explanations, just doing.  I seem to learn much better that way.

A little off topic:  when i first started learning the mason trade, my boss (and teacher) told me that when i leaerned how to lay bricks (blocks, stone, stucco, whatever) I would be working with others, probably "on the line".  he told me that if I was having trouble keeping up with the leader, don't try to out do him.  I will not be able to catch him by working harder.  He said to take a break.  Go get my coffee jug and sit down where I can watch him.  Look closely and figure out "what he is not doing that your are doing."  I have used that philosophy many times.

I'll be taking a break for awhile.  I have learned a little.  i have gotten confused a little.  I'll let it all sink in and come back.
Tinker
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2008, 08:56 PM »
All, I just "stumbled" upon this thread.  I wholly sympathize and empathize with Tinker when it comes to things PC.

I also want to express my gratitude to Matthew, Peter, Brice, Dan C. and many others on FOG who have helped me with my many PC related problems.  If MS or other computer or software companies served their clients as well, they would dominate their chosen fields!!  Because of their help, I am finally able to post photos on FOG. 

Next year my goals will include SketchUp or another drawing program. 

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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2010, 08:50 PM »
Hello to all,

I'm new to FOG and would like to offer up a couple of links that may be helpful with regard to learning to use SketchUp.

http://forums.sketchucation.com

http://www.garymkatz.com/charts_drawings.html

There are others available as well.

What I've found after trying to learn some of the true CADD programs, which SketchUp technically is not, is that their learning curves are extremely steep.  SketchUp allows you to take that idea that you've scribbled on the back of a napkin and present it in a legible fashion on paper.

I don't claim to have any expertise with the program. What I do is take simple ideas that in reality would be easier to draw on a napkin and draw them in SketchUp. At first, all I concerned myself with was making the drawing look normal. Orbiting around helps you find design flaws. Then, once I felt comfortable with that, I added dimensions, which I later learned could be input when drawing a particular object.

Of course, I would read lots of articles and watch tutorials, such as in the links above, and subsequently try my hand at what I thought that I had just learned. In some cases, I had indeed learned how to use one of its features, while in others, I hadn't and am still stuck. However, when I see what others have been able to accomplish with it, that keeps me motivated to continue.

Perhaps I'll never get to their level of expertise, but I can say that, in my opinion, it makes getting my ideas on to paper much easier than trying to learn a CADD program. Not that doing so is a bad thing for those who have the skill and time.

Hope the links help.

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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2011, 08:18 PM »
2 parts:

1). Can we get sketchup related under it's own board heading, under this one?

2). I am well into a drawing and realized that all my panels are too big by .75 inches on one axis.  (19x28.5 should be 18.25x28.5)

My panels are a saved component. Is there a way to reduce the panel by the .75 _and_ have it drag all the attached components with it.

My apologies if I did not articulate this well.



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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2011, 08:40 PM »
Harry, if I understand question #2 correctly the answer is no.  There are ways to make this kind of editing easier if you plan ahead.  Check out this video to see what I mean.  Let me know if this addresses your question.

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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2011, 09:32 PM »
Brice,

Kind of.

Essentially what I have going on are cabinet carcases. Each individual component I have created as such. Now my side panels are too deep and all the stretchers are in place. What I was hoping to do was reduce the depth of the sides by the .75in and have the stretchers 'follow' to the new dimension. Looks like this is something I must do manually?

I will monkey with it a bit and see how things go.
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2011, 10:50 PM »
Yep, you'll have to do it manually.  There may be ways to align your view to be advantageous for selecting most or even all of the your stretchers and move them all at once.  The video should give you ideas on how to select items you want to edit or move.

Since your panels are components you only need to edit one and all the other will change.     
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2011, 11:22 PM »
yeah,. the panel change was easy. there stretcher i did have to move manually, but not individually. I can live with that.

 [thanks] for the help
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2011, 01:10 AM »
2 parts:

1). Can we get sketchup related under it's own board heading, under this one?

2). I am well into a drawing and realized that all my panels are too big by .75 inches on one axis.  (19x28.5 should be 18.25x28.5)

My panels are a saved component. Is there a way to reduce the panel by the .75 _and_ have it drag all the attached components with it.

My apologies if I did not articulate this well.



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There may be a way of doing it - there's a plug-in called FredoScale:



Skip to 4:20 to see the 'stretch' function that works with components and groups.
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2011, 05:33 PM »


1). Can we get sketchup related under it's own board heading, under this one?



this way we could have sketchup sub-topics, as opposed to one gigantic sketchup thread.
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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2011, 05:57 PM »
is there an easy way to make handed components?
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2011, 06:26 PM »
Harry,

Yes, very easy. Make one, save it as a component. Then copy it, and make the copy a unique component. Highlight it, and go to tools > scale, and scale it by a factor of -1 to reverse the component:



Then you have handed components!
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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2011, 08:36 PM »
I would have never have come up with scale -1 on my own.

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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2011, 01:55 AM »
I would have never have come up with scale -1 on my own.

Me neither! Google is your friend...




As is youtube!
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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2011, 02:18 AM »
video is my Nemesis right now. My internet horrible,.... dial-up would be a near blessing :D
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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2011, 10:42 AM »
Wondering if anyone has experience with Maya and how it compares with SketchUp? My son's studying 3d animation and I was trying to interest him in something that could help me in the shop (building a CNC).  Also, does anybody have any suggestions for cabinet design design software for dummies. Something with a minimal learning curve that will still create cut sheets and part lists as well as letting me design kitchens fairly quick. The amalgam of software that I've been using is just too old and limiting. I've played with SketchUp a bit but it's really more nuts and bolts design than I was interested in. Maybe something that already had a library of boxes that can be readily modified? No I wasn't thinking that Maya was the answer, Maya was just part of a different question. 
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« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2011, 10:43 AM »
Maybe something that already had a library of boxes that can be readily modified?

You may want to take a look at CabinetSense (a Sketchup ad on/plugin) which is due to be released shortly.
I have not used it but it may be something that works for you. It does contain a library of cabinet styles and boxes that can be modified.

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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2011, 06:14 PM »
I am building a curved desk top for a built-in and drew the top in SketchUp.  I would like to print a full size model of the curve so I can transfer to a full size wooden template.  Is there a way to print in full size so I can match the pages together and duplicate the curve?

I used to do this with AutoCad LT but can't figure out how to do this function with SketchUP

Thanks,

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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2011, 09:17 PM »
Unless you have a roll printer, you are going to print this out on regular paper, so you need to be able to line up the pages.  I read about a technique by which you put some sort of symbol that you can line up on your printouts, but can't remember the details.  Minding the printer margins, you locate markers throughout the drawing so that they are vertically and horizontally lined up, and will print towards the edges of the paper.

I would recommend sketchucation.com (they have very good videos) and the sketchup forum. 

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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2011, 12:50 PM »
  I would like to print a full size model of the curve so I can transfer to a full size wooden template.  Is there a way to print in full size so I can match the pages together and duplicate the curve?

Chris:
I out put my sketchup files to a large format printer from a commercial (blueprint) shop. Many architectural and or quick print shops have this capability.
You can do this two ways in Sketchup: exporting to a PDF or using Layout. Draw your curves or copy and paste your curves into a new sketcup drawing and export that as 2d PDF. To export to PDF you must have a licensed product otherwise (in V. 8.0) you can only export to JPEG. In the Export 2D Graphic dialogue box, select the Options button (lower right) and set the drawing size to full scale. You are limited to 100 inches here but that shouldn't be a problem unless your drawing is bigger than that.
Open the PDF, and select print setup and set your output printer to print to your pdf writer and click properties. In the advanced options dialogue box make sure output/scaling is set at 100% and then select a paper size.
Click ok and save.
You can upload (or copy to a CD) this file to the output service and they will then print it out based on your setup.
Tim

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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2011, 07:53 AM »
If you do want to make SketchUp usage more bearable and less of 'draw -> space -> rotate tool -> rotate -> space -> box tool -> ....' rince & repeat you might find this gadget very helpful and wrist saving:

http://www.3dconnexion.com/products/spacenavigator.html

I've got the home user basic version and it makes working with the model so much faster and less clicky  [cool]
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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2011, 03:54 PM »
I am wondering if there is a way to relocate the 'placement handle' when pasting a component into a drawing. It seems like whenever I do a paste, I am holding the component from the end making placement rather inconvenient.
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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2011, 05:12 PM »
I am wondering if there is a way to relocate the 'placement handle' when pasting a component into a drawing. It seems like whenever I do a paste, I am holding the component from the end making placement rather inconvenient.

Don't know if this what you're looking for, but worth a peek:

http://www.finewoodworking.com/item/41609/component-insertion
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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2011, 06:39 PM »
swingman, thanks. I had looked into this. Maybe I keep moving the axis to equally useless points although I think i would have picked up on the change. I'll play with it some more
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Sketch up on iOS
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2014, 07:43 PM »
I enjoy using sketch up but when I want to show someone a plan that I'm developing I would like the portability of my tablet or phone.  Is there a way to view saved sketch up plans on iOS via an iPhone or iPad.  Or possibly minor editing capabilities through an app of some sort.  Thanks Bill

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Re: Sketch up on iOS
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2014, 07:53 PM »
I enjoy using sketch up but when I want to show someone a plan that I'm developing I would like the portability of my tablet or phone.  Is there a way to view saved sketch up plans on iOS via an iPhone or iPad.  Or possibly minor editing capabilities through an app of some sort.  Thanks Bill

Screen shots emailed to yourself is the only way I know of at this point.

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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2014, 03:50 AM »
There's an app called 'SightSpace 3D' that allows you to view SketchUp files on an iPad or iPhone (there's also a version for Android). I've got the iPad version.

There's a free basic version which allows you to view files, pan, zoom, rotate, walkthrough, etc. If you're just wanting to show the model, then the free version will do that fine.

The paid version uses Augmented Reality, so you can superimpose models on the real world, in real time, using the iPad's camera. It uses the gyroscope function of the iPad so you can move around in the model by moving the iPad - really good if you're showing a model of a room - so you can stand in the middle of the existing room & move the iPad around, basically using it as a viewing window to see the virtual room.

You can also view bookmarks, scenes, and make notes on the model.

I bought the full version about 6 months ago, and it was definitely worthwhile. I must add though, when I bought it I think the full version cost around £12; it's now £28!!! You don't have to buy the full version, though, you can get the free one & then buy additional options individually.

There are various videos on YouTube showing it, just google 'sightspace 3d'.


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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2014, 08:25 AM »
Johnny,

Thanks for the info on the app.

Tom

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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2014, 09:57 AM »
There's an app called 'SightSpace 3D' that allows you to view SketchUp files on an iPad or iPhone (there's also a version for Android). I've got the iPad version.

There's a free basic version which allows you to view files, pan, zoom, rotate, walkthrough, etc. If you're just wanting to show the model, then the free version will do that fine.

The paid version uses Augmented Reality, so you can superimpose models on the real world, in real time, using the iPad's camera. It uses the gyroscope function of the iPad so you can move around in the model by moving the iPad - really good if you're showing a model of a room - so you can stand in the middle of the existing room & move the iPad around, basically using it as a viewing window to see the virtual room.

You can also view bookmarks, scenes, and make notes on the model.

I bought the full version about 6 months ago, and it was definitely worthwhile. I must add though, when I bought it I think the full version cost around £12; it's now £28!!! You don't have to buy the full version, though, you can get the free one & then buy

additional options individually.

There are various videos on YouTube showing it, just google 'sightspace 3d'.


I don't see the free version unfortunately only the pay for version, $41.99 CDN.

John


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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2014, 10:05 AM »

AFAIK

The free one on iOS is called SightSpace Free-D

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/sightspace-free-d/id567219670?mt=8

The free one on Android is called SightSPace View

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.limitlesscomputing.sightspaceview


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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2014, 07:27 PM »
Unfortunately Sightspace Veiw has most of the useful features disabled and the reviews aren't that great. At least for the Android version.

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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2014, 09:22 AM »
Just out of curiosity, are people using this as much as prior to the Trimble development.

I enjoy using it, but it looks like without the Pro ($$) version that it may have less utility.  I've currently been using the free trial (having upgraded the computer recently.)  Does LayOut work? 

I'm trying to decide whether to put drawings into it, or just sketch them on the iPad and get out in the shop.

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Re: Sketch up on iOS
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2014, 04:04 PM »
I enjoy using sketch up but when I want to show someone a plan that I'm developing I would like the portability of my tablet or phone.  Is there a way to view saved sketch up plans on iOS via an iPhone or iPad.  Or possibly minor editing capabilities through an app of some sort.  Thanks Bill

Might want to try an IOS app, "Cubits". Available in the App Store for US$4.99, it does allow you to view, zoom, orbit your SketchUp 3D model, exported to a *.kmz file on both the iPad and iPhone. I've been using it in conjunction with DropBox and my iPad for client presentations the past couple of years.

Simply File/Export from SketchUp, to the DropBox folder on your SketchUp computer. You can then access the .kmz file using the DorpBox IOS app with "Open in" the Cubits app. The Export option is quick and efficient IME, just takes seconds.

No editing capability, but it is useful for presentation, particularly so if there is an AirPlay flat screen TV involved. What I find useful is I can set up optional design choices for the client using "Scene"s in SketchUp, then Export a separate .kmz file for each scene.
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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2014, 04:13 PM »
Just out of curiosity, are people using this as much as prior to the Trimble development.

I enjoy using it, but it looks like without the Pro ($$) version that it may have less utility.  I've currently been using the free trial (having upgraded the computer recently.)  Does LayOut work? 

I'm trying to decide whether to put drawings into it, or just sketch them on the iPad and get out in the shop.

Except for the few "Solid Tools", the function of which can be done any number of ways in the free version; and the ability to make Dynamic Components; the basic drawing/modeling functionality of the free version is the same as the Pro version. Layout is only included with the Pro version, and while useful for presentation purposes, it is not necessary for modeling.

If you don't need to make presentation and construction documents, then the free version will serve you well.

And yes ... more folks are using SU today than ever before. I built a $350k custom home for a client about five years ago using SketchUp for all permitting, bidding and fabrication documents (except for the foundation plan, and I ended up modeling it to the project's great benefit, since the foundation was unusual/unique due to the local soil characteristics.

As a builder/GC, I'm seeing more and more Architects using the program exclusively the past couple of years.
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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2014, 06:18 PM »
Hello,

Have been away from FOG for awhile, happy to be back. Planning out a very basic storage shed for bicycles and as a learning exercise am using SU. I found sketchupforwoodworkers.com, and it's been helpful. Planning on giving the shed a sloped roof. My question is, how do I draw 18mm panels in sketchup that are not rectangles, i.e., a panel that's 1125mm on one end and 1200mm on the other? Thank you! 
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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2014, 07:34 PM »
Hello,

Have been away from FOG for awhile, happy to be back. Planning out a very basic storage shed for bicycles and as a learning exercise am using SU. I found sketchupforwoodworkers.com, and it's been helpful. Planning on giving the shed a sloped roof. My question is, how do I draw 18mm panels in sketchup that are not rectangles, i.e., a panel that's 1125mm on one end and 1200mm on the other? Thank you! 

Assuming the two lines are parallel and the center points are on the same axis you would use the line tool. Draw a line 1125 mm long, find the center and add a perpendicular guideline. Drop another guideline ? mm (you didn't give this measurement) and draw a 1200 mm line along this guideline. Move the 1200 mm line along the guideline until the center point is on the first perpendicular guideline. Connect the ends of the two lines, delete the guidelines and you now have a trapezoid that can be manipulated in any way your heart desires.  ;D
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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2014, 01:37 PM »
Hello,

Have been away from FOG for awhile, happy to be back. Planning out a very basic storage shed for bicycles and as a learning exercise am using SU. I found sketchupforwoodworkers.com, and it's been helpful. Planning on giving the shed a sloped roof. My question is, how do I draw 18mm panels in sketchup that are not rectangles, i.e., a panel that's 1125mm on one end and 1200mm on the other? Thank you! 

draw a rectangle 1200 x X then select one of the corners and then use the move tool to move the corner towards the other by 75 mm. or alternatively select the corner, use the move tool and start moving the corner towards the other then enter 75 mm in the dialogue box at the bottom right of the sketchup window.

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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2014, 07:31 PM »
Hello,

Have been away from FOG for awhile, happy to be back. Planning out a very basic storage shed for bicycles and as a learning exercise am using SU. I found sketchupforwoodworkers.com, and it's been helpful. Planning on giving the shed a sloped roof. My question is, how do I draw 18mm panels in sketchup that are not rectangles, i.e., a panel that's 1125mm on one end and 1200mm on the other? Thank you!  

draw a rectangle 1200 x X then select one of the corners and then use the move tool to move the corner towards the other by 75 mm. or alternatively select the corner, use the move tool and start moving the corner towards the other then enter 75 mm in the dialogue box at the bottom right of the sketchup window.

Ding ding ding ding! Thank you Tim! This is what I wound up doing. I had been trying to ''grab'' the panel using move after I had given it the 18mm of thickness, but couldn't get it to behave. Started over with the rectangle like you suggested, then used Push/Pull to get the thickness. Cheers.

Edit: And thank you too, Colonel Panic, but when it comes to Sketchup, I'm General Confusion, and your suggestion flew over my head!
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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2014, 08:01 AM »
Well, what do you know Trimble has published an official SketchUp Mobile Viewer app for the iPad... At 8,99€ I haven't felt the need to purchase it but at least now there is an official option to taking your SketchUp plans to the clients or workshops without having to buy the astronomically expensive SightSpace 3D...
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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2014, 04:41 PM »
Well, what do you know Trimble has published an official SketchUp Mobile Viewer app for the iPad... At 8,99€ I haven't felt the need to purchase it but at least now there is an official option to taking your SketchUp plans to the clients or workshops without having to buy the astronomically expensive SightSpace 3D...

The reviews in the US say it's not worth the $9.99. Doesn't work with DropBox. You have to upload your models to the warehouse. Also it doesn't display dimension lines. Both features I want to use my iPad in the shop.  Wait a couple of revisions.
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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #50 on: October 26, 2014, 12:16 PM »
For those just starting with Sketchup, I found this site worth a donation.

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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2017, 09:52 AM »
No sub-threading on this topic? hrrrm.


Here's the scenario:

I have:
a macbook pro
Sketchup Make 2017 (Sketchup 2017 non-pro version)
a .pdf, and an .svg of the survey of my property

I would like to import the, preferably the .svg as it is scalable, into Sketchup Make and design my new house into it so i can work with (visualize) my elevations.

Sketchup Make does not import .svg natively. I have dedicated an entire day to the web looking for solutions/work-arounds but I'm not really gaining any traction there. There's a lot of geek-speak, which I although I am somewhat savvy as compared to most, this is still a bit over my head. I feel as though I could have built a drafting table & t-square and be well on my way to doing it 'old school' by now.

Is there maybe someone out there that has the pro-version that would be willing to accept my .svg and import it into a .skp and send it back to me?
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« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2017, 10:31 AM »
Harry,

Glad to see you posting.  I see that Sketchup pro has a free trial.

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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2017, 11:42 AM »
The free trial for SketchUp Pro devolves into SketchUp Make.
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Re: Sketchup Discussions Go in This Board
« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2017, 09:00 PM »
Is there maybe someone out there that has the pro-version that would be willing to accept my .svg and import it into a .skp and send it back to me?

@harry_ :
If you haven't already solved your problem send it to me. I will convert it and send it back.
You can find my email in my member account.
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