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Offline BC6738F5BCE98B4

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Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« on: November 06, 2009, 04:21 PM »
Does any have (or has anyone seen) an accurately done Sketchup Model of the 1080 and/or Kapex?  I was about to start my own when I thought of the possibility that someone here had such a model and had not posted it in Google Warehouse. 

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 04:37 PM »
Does any have (or has anyone seen) an accurately done Sketchup Model of the 1080 and/or Kapex?  I was about to start my own when I thought of the possibility that someone here had such a model and had not posted it in Google Warehouse. 

Thanks in advance.

I'm not aware of any finished models, I started a MFT model and I know Jonny Round Boy has an incomplete Kapex model.
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 05:00 PM »
Here's what I've got for a MFT, Festool MFT 1080, not a accurate reproduction.
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 08:14 PM »
I've been meaning to put my SketchUp in the Google Warehouse, but haven't gotten around to it yet. Any way, I have the MFT 1080s as part of my MFT station. They are within 1/64". Here is a pic. Let me know...and I can email to you. File is too large to post here, even when I take all other models out.

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 10:35 PM »
OK I give . . . Bruce, why is this "not accurate"

Rey,  I would appreciate your emailing (or trying to) me with model.  Email is a146@cox.net  Thanks.

Why not post?

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 11:08 PM »
OK I give . . . Bruce, why is this "not accurate"


It's not to perfect scale or in metric and no guide rail or rail mounting hardware. BTW, its Brice, not Bruce.
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2009, 07:43 AM »

Rey,  I would appreciate your emailing (or trying to) me with model.  Email is a146@cox.net  Thanks.

Why not post?

I just sent it to you...it should have come from address rjq909@gmail.com. I didn't post it here because the file size is over the attachment limit here. I will get around to putting some of my Festool models in the Google Warehouse...haven't gotten around to it yet though.


OK I give . . . Bruce, why is this "not accurate"...

Brice, I get Ray alot instead of Rey...pronuciation stays the same though for me.  [tongue]
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2009, 07:53 AM »
Btw, nice work there Brice with the MFT model.

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2009, 08:38 AM »
Here's what I've got for a MFT, Festool MFT 1080, not a accurate reproduction.

Brice,

I've added your MFT model to my Festool Power Tools 3D Warehouse collection. Hope that's OK  [smile]

...I know Jonny Round Boy has an incomplete Kapex model.

Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me  [tongue]. I never did finish it. I only ever got as far as the base casting:
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2009, 12:12 PM »
Thanks Rey, I made that model when I was still learning to use sketchup. It's not bad I just wish I would have used metric measurements instead of approximate imperial ones.

Jonny, no problem, I'm happy you added it to the collection. 

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2009, 09:42 PM »
Added a new MFT to the 3D warehouse, MFT and TS55 model.

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2013, 04:47 PM »
I found this thread looking for a Kapex 3D model. Ended up modeling it myself. If anyone has need for a model I'd be glad to send it over. It´s accurate to the millimeter on the important dimensions. I only have it in Autodesk Inventor format. Didn't find any way to export it in a Sketch Up readable format.

Here is what it looks like. All the tilting and turning is built into the model, i.e. the model can be "posed" in any fashion.

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2013, 03:17 PM »
I found this thread looking for a Kapex 3D model. Ended up modeling it myself. If anyone has need for a model I'd be glad to send it over. It´s accurate to the millimeter on the important dimensions. I only have it in Autodesk Inventor format. Didn't find any way to export it in a Sketch Up readable format.

Here is what it looks like. All the tilting and turning is built into the model, i.e. the model can be "posed" in any fashion.

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Can you export it as a DXF? DXF is AUtoCads data transfer protocol. Sketchup Pro can read DXF. You can download a free version of Sketchup Pro but it it limited to only so many hours (20?) I had success with bringing a DXF into Sketchup about a year ago. If you like you can send it to me in DXF and I'll try to convert it and post it for others. PM me if interested.

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2013, 04:42 PM »
I found this thread looking for a Kapex 3D model. Ended up modeling it myself. If anyone has need for a model I'd be glad to send it over. It´s accurate to the millimeter on the important dimensions. I only have it in Autodesk Inventor format. Didn't find any way to export it in a Sketch Up readable format.

Here is what it looks like. All the tilting and turning is built into the model, i.e. the model can be "posed" in any fashion.

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Can you export it as a DXF? DXF is AUtoCads data transfer protocol. Sketchup Pro can read DXF. You can download a free version of Sketchup Pro but it it limited to only so many hours (20?) I had success with bringing a DXF into Sketchup about a year ago. If you like you can send it to me in DXF and I'll try to convert it and post it for others. PM me if interested.


I'd like to see that happen.
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2013, 12:48 PM »
Hi.
I tried to export it to DWG, but that file didn't open i SketchUp.
Opened it in AutoCad and exported as DXF. Went better, but some parts are missing. I don't understand why that happens.

How do I attach a file to a forum post (other than an image)?

Here is what I managed to import to SketchUp. I'll make another try and choose an older DXF format (this one is "Autocad 2010 DXF").
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2013, 01:04 PM »
Hmm.
Even if I try to export the missing part separately it doesn't import in Sketchup. Does anyone know what to do?
I've tried different DWG formats:
- Autocad 2013, 2010, 2009.

2013 doesn't import at all into SketchUp. The other formats imports, but skips one part.

<edit> The part imports into AutoCad without problem. Could there be some geometric feature in the part that isn't supported in SketchUp?

Unimportable part:
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2013, 01:15 PM »
Sketchup files aren't supported on the forum.  You can up load the file to the Trimble 3D Warehouse.  You can do that through Sketchup: File>3D Warehouse>Upload.
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2013, 01:18 PM »
No point uploading a half model. I'll e-mail you the parts. Maybe you can try to import them, if you got the time.
Feel free to upload it to the warehouse if you manage to import the file.
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2013, 03:36 PM »
I have now tried a lot of different file formats and event tried to convert some curves, but it seems to be a no go.
1. Tried to export to every selectable DWG format (AutoCad 2000 - 2013)
2. Tried to first export to .SAT, import again to Inventor and finally exporting to DWG... same problem
3. The missing part is modeled with a lot of splines. I tried to convert the splines from "AutoCad" to "Standard".. same problem
4. Tried to remove a bunch of fillets after converting the splines.. same problem.

I give up. If someone wants the model without the missing part I'll happily send it over. At least it might be useful if you are modeling a stand or a SCMS station since the footprint and the hole pattern is exactly drawn. That was my main purpose for making the model.

PM me you e-mail address if you want me to e-mail the model.
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2013, 07:53 PM »
Maybe try exploding the parts (assuming they are combined or are a block\)?

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2013, 05:19 AM »
I tried that. The "missing part" is actually one separate solid. I tried exporting this solid separately, but it remains unimportable. The only thing I can think of is that it consists of geometry that SketchUp cannot cope with.

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2014, 11:47 PM »
 Hey  guys I am working on a model of our work in progress shop. 
We would love to  update our  chunky Kapex model with a more accurate Kapex.
 If Michael  still  has  reason to share his work in progress I will  gladly complete the task of importing and  making an accurate  SU model.

Here is our planned shop layout.
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2014, 01:32 AM »
Not to hijack this thread any further, but I started a 3D file for my shop and I can't figure out how to get it into Sketch-up. I can import it, but the 0,0 point and  orientation are all wrong. Then again, I have maybe an hour's experience in SU so I'm not even a real beginer.

 [wink]


I have plenty of 2-D files and pictures that I can provide. Anybody wanna take a shot at it for me? I don't know what I can offer in trade, but I bet we can figure something out?

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2014, 09:57 AM »
Hi Guys

I'm trying to do some planing for a mobile trailer and re layout of my own garage and come across this mini tutorial from Ron Paulk mobile shop Sktechup. Follow the tutorial and you could grab a few tools to help. you will have to verify the dimension on everything. I haven't used Sketchup in over a year and was a novice then im trying to re learn everything but its pain full but hope this helps.



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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2014, 01:31 AM »
 Just getting around to crafting a Kapex 120 EB Skecthup model.
Almost there.  Decided to make everything from  scratch.
 Used  exploded diagrams and images from the forums to get the profiles and proportions.
 Modeling  at present
Festool 497354 UG-KA-Set Kapex Portable Stand with Left and Right Extensions nearly complete still have  connecting v bracket to make.
Festool 494369 Kapex Miter Saw Crown Stop With Base Extension
still to model Festool 491594 Quick Clamp For MFT And Guide Rail System, 6 5/8" (168mm) for crown stop variant
Festool Kapex KS 120 Sliding Compound Miter Saw  still have armature and blade housing to  complete.

 Stay tuned for the final model.. some images until then.




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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2014, 03:10 AM »
Just getting around to crafting a Kapex 120 EB Skecthup model.
Almost there.  Decided to make everything from  scratch.
 Used  exploded diagrams and images from the forums to get the profiles and proportions.
 Modeling  at present
Festool 497354 UG-KA-Set Kapex Portable Stand with Left and Right Extensions nearly complete still have  connecting v bracket to make.
Festool 494369 Kapex Miter Saw Crown Stop With Base Extension
still to model Festool 491594 Quick Clamp For MFT And Guide Rail System, 6 5/8" (168mm) for crown stop variant
Festool Kapex KS 120 Sliding Compound Miter Saw  still have armature and blade housing to  complete.

 Stay tuned for the final model.. some images until then.

WOW! Nice detail!

This would be very helpful to me in planning my workshop layout. any idea when you think you'll have it finished?
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2014, 08:37 AM »
 Its the  details that make us all smile.  [big grin] I  still have to  drop by my local Festool shop to  see the rear and motor side as I don't have an actual Kapex ( yet) to model directly from .. once I can understand the shapes I should have some more time over the  weekend to  make the final pieces.  So far fairly low poly despite the level of detail.

I will post the model here and to the SU 3D warehouse.

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2014, 08:42 AM »
That Awesome, Im trying to figure out Sketchup so far i accomplish making a bird house and a lame one at that  [eek], you my friend a wizard in my eyes  [not worthy].

Keep up the good work!!!
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2014, 11:11 PM »
I was able to craft the model as accurately as possible without a live model ( soon we hope  )  and so…for the  moment there are some errors for sure.

If any one sends or post images I will update the models.

I had to guess on a fair amount.

The  extensions are very close and the  table height and extension height is 900mm
 Every thing else is a a fudge as I was not able to verify most dimensions.

Its a sketch model in the true sense.

Hope these will be of use to some. Any input is welcome for errors or  revisions that should be made.

There will be a single file on the 3D warehouse which contains these component files
Festool Kapex  Miter Station KS120 EB
Festool UG Kapex Mobile Miter Station Cart /Wheeled Base
Festool UG Kapex Mobile Miter Station Extensions R/L
Festool Crown Stop


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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2014, 11:33 PM »
Thank you for all your work, and especially for sharing it! I wish I had your sketch-up skills!
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2014, 06:45 AM »
Thanks you so much....thats amazing!!

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2014, 08:38 AM »
I've just checked that model, and whilst it's far more 'finished' than I ever got, I'm afraid the scale is completely wrong. I appreciate that papap has done this model without an actual kapex for reference, and I'm not saying he hasn't done a good job getting the 'look' of it right, but the whole thing is oversize by between 10 and 20%, depending on which bit you measure.

I just wanted to warn people before anyone used it to plan anything firm.

papap - no offense meant. If you want, PM me with your e-mail address & I'll send you the model I did a few years ago (which is shown earlier in the thread) and you're welcome to use that to adjust your model for scale. I never did get any further than the base casting, and I doubt I ever will!
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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2014, 03:33 PM »
Awesome job finishing and posting!!

I am not to familiar with sketchup but I drew up Peter Parfitt new kapex stand and wanted to place this on top to figure out bolt hole locations and it didn't fir.

It's there a away to scale this down in sketchup?   If dien so would it be accurate? 

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2014, 12:23 AM »
jonny , no offense taken


 ...as jonny states
This model is currently a very convincing sketch.
which I  am happy to update

..as a user of Skecthup for many years this one of its charms- making very quick 3d representation of ideas that can be tested and evolve into  more accurate or even more convincing representations


 To all this was a best guess ( as stated in my post )  it does "look right" but  the only dimension that is  accurate is the  fence height of 900mm  EVERYTHING  else is a guess.

I had no measurements to use ..just images.
If anyone wants to PM measurements I will gladly  update the model with more accurate representations.
 for scaling the model.  The easiest way would be to scale the rectangle that forms from the centers of feet circles from underneath.

Skecthup tip
As for scale  use the scale tool (tools menu or CMD 9) with the shift and  option keys depressed  to scale (uniformly about center ) and type in the scale factor.
Viola all parts scaled.
Although in this case still inaccurate [embarassed]

I am glad this model is finally able to be of use. With a little assistance  I can make it usable for future shop layouts not just pretty pictures.
Although I wish it was that easy to make actually people more useful.

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2014, 01:09 PM »
updated the model to a more accurate scale. 
Still a WIP for use as a template for dimensional planning.

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Re: Sketchup Models of MFT 1080 and/or Kapex?
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2017, 04:25 PM »
Uploaded a mobile configuration of the Kapex model to the Sketchup 3D Warehouse here
No real changes other than updating the generic saw blade to a Festool 500647