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Offline Kristian

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2013, 08:59 AM »
The guy who wrote the Dummies book has pretty good YouTube videos you should check out.

RMW

Richard is right, this guy has some good videos. His book is also worth checking.

http://www.youtube.com/user/aidanchopra/videos?sort=da&flow=grid&view=0

Offline Wooden Skye

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2013, 02:20 PM »
I think I know the answer to this question, but I am going to ask.  You draw a face with the rectangle tool to make a cabinet side, and then you want to do the thickness of the side, so I have used the push/pull tool.  When using the push/pull tool to make the thickness from plywood, do you use 23/32 or 3/4 during your design of the sketchup model? 
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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2013, 02:26 PM »
what ever thickness you want. select the surface with the push pull tool, push up and then enter the fraction or number in the dialog box in the bottom right of the screen and push the enter button. Couldn't be easier really.
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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2013, 04:48 PM »
Tim

The more i learn, I know that it us easy to use this tool.  What I have been doing is pulling or pushing to 3/4, but plywood measures 23/32, so it is conceivable that when you take the drawing to the shop, there will be minor differences.  Because you can put in any measurement I was more curious if people are using 23/32 or 3/4.
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Offline neilc

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2013, 09:32 PM »
I use sketchup on every project. 

I use 3/4 largely because I am using it to sketch a project, not create absolute final dimensions. 

I still cut to fit, rather than cut to the plan.  Invariably, through sanding, planing, etc, you'll always end up with some variation.

It takes some time, but once you get the idea, it's a quick way to explore alternatives and improve your work.

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2013, 10:05 PM »
Tim

The more i learn, I know that it us easy to use this tool.  What I have been doing is pulling or pushing to 3/4, but plywood measures 23/32, so it is conceivable that when you take the drawing to the shop, there will be minor differences.  Because you can put in any measurement I was more curious if people are using 23/32 or 3/4.


Well, now you're getting to the next step, going Metric. [tongue] 
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Offline Kristian

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2013, 08:34 AM »
+1 on Metric!  [wink]

Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2013, 10:20 AM »
The more i learn, I know that it us easy to use this tool.  What I have been doing is pulling or pushing to 3/4, but plywood measures 23/32, so it is conceivable that when you take the drawing to the shop, there will be minor differences.  Because you can put in any measurement I was more curious if people are using 23/32 or 3/4.

Sorry I misunderstood.

I use sketchup on every project. 
I use 3/4 largely because I am using it to sketch a project, not create absolute final dimensions. 
I still cut to fit, rather than cut to the plan.  Invariably, through sanding, planing, etc, you'll always end up with some variation.
It takes some time, but once you get the idea, it's a quick way to explore alternatives and improve your work.

Totally agree with Neil here.
While there are exceptions (32mm system), I set my Sketchup preferences to 1/8" so I don't have to deal with 16ths and 32nds. Drives me nuts and I make errors +/- of that much anyway.

Well, now you're getting to the next step, going Metric. [tongue] 

I wish. I like it better. While we (Canada) has converted/standardized to metric, the amount of material still supplied in imperial sizes just increases the complexity.

Tim

Offline CarolinaNomad

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2013, 10:43 AM »

I wish. I like it better. While we (Canada) has converted/standardized to metric, the amount of material still supplied in imperial sizes just increases the complexity.

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2013, 12:10 PM »
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As I stand on my soap box, Canada! pick a freakin system and be done with this madness!!!!

Jeff

Or you could just take the US approach, i.e. stick your head in the sand and ignore the rest of the world. May as well go back to furlongs, rods and cubits...

I do try desperately to work in metric, but I still find myself pausing to think "hmmnnn, lemme see... 4" is 101.6mm...." before setting the guide for the saw to 100mm. Can't seem to visualize/conceptualize in metric.

When doing computer design work I work in metric however, it is just easier to work in base-10.

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2013, 01:27 PM »
The way I learned sketchup is to just do it, and not be afraid to mess it up. I have done many models which i had to start from scratch after learning what not to do. Now this does not happen so much. After screwing many projects up, I watched the series of videos from podcasts posted by the sketchup show or youtube ().

Offline Colin Giersberg

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2013, 09:12 PM »
Check out





He may be young, but he knows Sketchup. Some of it may be simplistic, but hey, if you don't know Sketchup, then simplistic is the way to go. He has multiple videos that explain all of the commands, options, etc. Layers is actually not that hard. First, draw a part, then triple click on it to select the object, then right click and select Make Group. Next, select the object if it is not highlighted, then click on Window ( in the Menu bar at the top), then select Layers. Click on the + button in the pop up window. This adds a new layer (Layer 01, Layer 02, etc.). Under the Entity Info box, click on the Layer box, then select Layer 01. You have now added your first layer. If you wish, you can rename the layer to something of your choice. If you do this, then the next time you add a layer, then Layer 01 will again be added. This is the default setting.

Whichever way you go, start on the first video and progress from there. You will quickly pick up on Sketchup.

Happy drawing.

Offline barnowl

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2013, 09:43 AM »
I just bought one of those from Amazon last Saturday.
best wishes,

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Offline epicxt

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2013, 07:57 PM »
I know what you mean. I think the problem is that if you know how to draw with autocad etc, you'll be used to using coordinates, ie everything relates to an origin point, 0,0,0. Sketchup doesn't have that. I think it was designed that way deliberately, for people who don't understand how most cad programs work.

This is a timely thread that popped up for me.  I've recently been working with Sketchup and have been pleased with some of my results with "typical" projects, but I'm in the middle of trying to design some custum odd-angled steel brackets for some exposed glulams and have been frustrated with the lack of a 3-coordinate plotting tool to get my angles dead-on.  I've never worked with CNC equipment or autoCAD, but is there an inexpensive (or free!) program out there that anyone can recommend that will allow the user to design using coordinates instead of resorting to the protractor and measuring tool?

Sorry if this is considered a thread hijack! [laughing]

Edit: Weird.  Just looked at the dating of this thread and it isn't recent at all!  For some reason it popped up in my Tapatalk under unread.  Maybe had something to do with replacing my phone after sending it through the wash and my apps weren't recently backed up...
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Offline leer

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2013, 09:48 PM »
epicxt,

I just jumped into this thread, thinking it was new.  There is a free 2D program called DraftSight.  It is the "AutoCAD" offering from SolidWorks.  I used it a little where I work, to try to design some parts for an Epilog Laser Engraver.  I finally went back to CorelDraw, which is (or was) the default program to print to the laser.

I never was an AutoCAD user, so I found it difficult to get proficient with the use of DraftSight.  I had gotten pretty comfortable with CorelDraw, mainly because I had no perconceived ideas on how it should work.  Probably why I adapted to SketchUp pretty quickly to get a simple project created pretty fast.

I am using SketchUp now, and find it pretty straightforward for items like wood, but I can imagine your frustration in designing something with angles.  For my newest project, a planer cart, I did a model for locking casters.  I had a heck of a time trying to model the angular bracket on the caster that supports the wheel.  I made it "close enough", since I was just using it to have a reasonable look when imported into the model for the cart.  I only needed its overall dimensions to be correct since my cart had to be accurate in height to align with my workbench, which will be the outfeed table for it.

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Offline jonny round boy

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2013, 03:27 AM »
DraftSight is good - I've very recently used it to do my systainer templates.

Note though that the free version is only 2D. If you need 3D this won't do it.


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Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2013, 10:58 AM »
For all those interested in expanding the capabilities of Sketchup, this is a video (presentation) about using several rendering engines within Sketchup to achieve more photo realistic images.



from Land8.com on Vimeo.</p>

Offline epicxt

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2013, 01:07 PM »
Thanks for Draftsight recommendation, I'll have to check it out when I get the chance. I ended up going to my buddy's place last night and he blasted it out in Solidworks. That's some amazing software!
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« Reply #48 on: November 27, 2013, 01:55 PM »
...blasted it out in Solidworks. That's some amazing software!

Sure is difficult to casually find the cost of Solidworks 3D CAD software.

The student edition costs $150 and can be purchased by students and military veterans.
https://www.solidworks.com/sw/products/3d-cad/academia.htm

Offline Colin Giersberg

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2013, 10:30 PM »
For anyone that has watched some of the videos from Harwood Podcast, you have probably seen him using a 3d mouse. They are useful in that you do not have to click on a command to rotate or move the object to a new position to continue working. I have one and like it. They are made by  http://www.3dconnexion.com


Offline leer

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2013, 11:51 AM »
I was rereading a few posts here, and completely missed the reference to "3D Warehouse".  (Thanks Richard/RMW!)

I learned a lot about using SketchUp while modeling a DeWalt DW735 planer.  I just looked at a model on 3D Warehouse.  Wow, amazing detail! I do not feel bad about the time I spent, since I'm a new user and some of the tasks to build the model were pretty challenging, and so I learned a lot.
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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2014, 02:32 PM »
I am not seeing the military veteran option for Student Edition Solidworks ...
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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2014, 03:48 AM »
For anyone that has watched some of the videos from Harwood Podcast, you have probably seen him using a 3d mouse. They are useful in that you do not have to click on a command to rotate or move the object to a new position to continue working. I have one and like it. They are made by  http://www.3dconnexion.com

There is a campaign going on at Sketchucation.com for a 20% off discount of the 3DConnexion devices with voucher code SKETCH20PROMO at their web-shops.
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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2014, 06:28 PM »
For anyone that has watched some of the videos from Harwood Podcast, you have probably seen him using a 3d mouse. They are useful in that you do not have to click on a command to rotate or move the object to a new position to continue working. I have one and like it. They are made by  http://www.3dconnexion.com

There is a campaign going on at Sketchucation.com for a 20% off discount of the 3DConnexion devices with voucher code SKETCH20PROMO at their web-shops.

Thanks this is perfect timing!

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2014, 06:57 PM »
I would probably try the new wireless one myself if I already didn't have the wired one on the table. just can't justify putting another 130€ down to cut the wire =(
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Offline Kristian

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2014, 05:33 AM »
The new smart labels in LayOut 2014 are pretty cool btw. Overall there are some nice new features in the new 2014 release.

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Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2014, 10:51 AM »
The new smart labels in LayOut 2014 are pretty cool btw. Overall there are some nice new features in the new 2014 release.

Agreed, I saw that last night. Not sure what else they changed but I like what they have done.
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Re: Sketchup
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2014, 02:15 PM »
For anyone that has watched some of the videos from Harwood Podcast, you have probably seen him using a 3d mouse. They are useful in that you do not have to click on a command to rotate or move the object to a new position to continue working. I have one and like it. They are made by  http://www.3dconnexion.com

There is a campaign going on at Sketchucation.com for a 20% off discount of the 3DConnexion devices with voucher code SKETCH20PROMO at their web-shops.

Thanks this is perfect timing!

I didn't see the promo on the Sketchuation or 3D Connexion websites. Can you be more specific to help the challenged?
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« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2014, 04:05 PM »
The campaign was published to the Skechucation newsletter readers - it's not on the website. Just go to www.3dconnexion.com and their shop -> type the code in to your basket at checkout and press update button.
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