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Offline joiner1970

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2016, 06:26 PM »
I'm from the states, why do you need a transformer are the tools sold wired differently over there ?

No the motors are different voltage.  110v is for cowboy trades man and 240v are for the elite trades man.  [eek]
No 110v is for pros and 240v is for diy lol ;-)

Offline Billy stray

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2016, 06:38 PM »
I'm from the states, why do you need a transformer are the tools sold wired differently over there ?

No the motors are different voltage.  110v is for cowboy trades man and 240v are for the elite trades man.  [eek]

Here in the states being a cowboy is a cmpliment, it means your a hard as nails person
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Offline msc

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2016, 06:40 PM »
I'm from the states, why do you need a transformer are the tools sold wired differently over there ?

No the motors are different voltage.  110v is for cowboy trades man and 240v are for the elite trades man.  [eek]
No 110v is for pros and 240v is for diy lol ;-)


110v = commercial i.e. shop-fitting, car showrooms, hotels bars shopping malls etc done by professional tradesmen

240v = domestic by mums and dads and their children and cowboys trades men

Offline demographic

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2016, 07:25 PM »
I'm from the states, why do you need a transformer are the tools sold wired differently over there ?

Its so the proper site tradesmen don't get mistaken for the household cake munchers and tea sippers [wink]

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2016, 07:54 PM »
I'm from the states, why do you need a transformer are the tools sold wired differently over there ?

Its so the proper site tradesmen don't get mistaken for the household cake munchers and tea sippers [wink]

Today my customer went and bought me fish and chips for lunch.  Sound lad!

240V =competent trades man who know what they are doing and the only cable they might damage are the ones in the walls or floor which are all 240v or higher.

110v= trades man who need molly-coddling because they are likely to kill them selfs by drilling or cutting into their own tool cables and still as likely to damage floor or wall cables with 240v or higher.

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Offline Billy stray

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2016, 08:00 PM »
I'm from the states, why do you need a transformer are the tools sold wired differently over there ?

Its so the proper site tradesmen don't get mistaken for the household cake munchers and tea sippers [wink]

LMAO !!!! That's good buddy
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2016, 08:09 PM »
I'm from the states, why do you need a transformer are the tools sold wired differently over there ?

Its so the proper site tradesmen don't get mistaken for the household cake munchers and tea sippers [wink]

Today my customer went and bought me fish and chips for lunch.  Sound lad!

240V =competent trades man who know what they are doing and the only cable they might damage are the ones in the walls or floor which are all 240v or higher.

110v= trades man who need molly-coddling because they are likely to kill them selfs by drilling or cutting into their own tool cables and still as likely to damage floor or wall cables with 240v or higher.

...... [dead horse]

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Offline Billy stray

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2016, 08:46 PM »
You Englishmen are bad .. funny but bad...lol
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Offline joiner1970

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2016, 02:46 AM »
The weird thing that gets me is that if you have 110v tools you can work anywhere you want so why wouldn't you have them. With 240v you can only do domestic work.

These days I don't really do site work but I still use 110v tools.

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2016, 03:12 AM »
The weird thing that gets me is that if you have 110v tools you can work anywhere you want so why wouldn't you have them. With 240v you can only do domestic work.

These days I don't really do site work but I still use 110v tools.

Chris you don't have a domino 700 then. loads of festoools not in the 110v line up in the UK
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Offline joiner1970

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2016, 03:35 AM »
The weird thing that gets me is that if you have 110v tools you can work anywhere you want so why wouldn't you have them. With 240v you can only do domestic work.

These days I don't really do site work but I still use 110v tools.

Chris you don't have a domino 700 then. loads of festoools not in the 110v line up in the UK
Lol don't need one ;) yet

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2016, 04:03 AM »
The weird thing that gets me is that if you have 110v tools you can work anywhere you want so why wouldn't you have them. With 240v you can only do domestic work.

These days I don't really do site work but I still use 110v tools.

I did think the same.

But

Both my previous employees didnt bother about 110 or 240.

One was just a small builder doing pub renovations, flat conversion, extentions etc

The other was a big joinery firm slash builder employed 20-40 blokes mainly doing JCB work and across the country even down London. That was one of the reasons I left the firm because I hated working down London horrible place to work.

My mentor went to work for another joinery company who are equally not fused about 110v or 240v and do work across the country even down london. They asked me to work for them but it was going to be down London..... Nah thanks.

So I decided why spend exactly the same amount of money on tools which are in reality inferior. Im glad I did because when I discovered festool they seem mainly 240 orientated any way plus of all tool brands are the worst on 110v.

So from my point I have never seen the need in 240v.

My mate is 110v and 240v but mainly 110v but hes converting to 240v with every tool he replaces now. We work abit together and he prefers the extra power he gets out of my tools. Plus my tools always zap his tools when we both use a tool at the same time. (I sometimes just make sure I start my TS55 up when hes about to use his TS55 just to  pi ss him off haahaaaa just as hes half way through a cut it bogs down lol)
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Offline demographic

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2016, 04:32 AM »
Joking aside, its just the places that people work at.

As I'm a site based subcontractor then I use 110 leads and ideally the site has their own step down transformer that I plug my leads into. Eventually in the last week or so of the site they get rid of the large transformers (which are often big 10 Kva things dropping down from three phase) and then we just use the 230* volt wall sockets to plug our dropdown transformers into to finish the job.

There's no doubt in my mind that the yellow 110 plugs and sockets are waay more robust than the household mickey mouse things so they survive the rigours of hard use better.
Mickey mouse plug.


Fairly decent "110" plug that survives people standing on it accidentally.


There are blue mains voltage plugs and sockets (Like above but in blue) avalible but pretty much the only time I see those is connected upto a generator or hooked upto the side of a caravan.







*"Historically the domestic voltage was 240 V +/-6% (and 415V 3phase), whilst continental Europe was 220V (380V 3 phase). Since 1995 the nominal voltage across Europe has been 230V (400V 3 phase). In practice nothing has been changed in the UK."

Offline Holmz

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2016, 05:26 AM »
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*"Historically the domestic voltage was 240 V +/-6% (and 415V 3phase), whilst continental Europe was 220V (380V 3 phase). Since 1995 the nominal voltage across Europe has been 230V (400V 3 phase). In practice nothing has been changed in the UK."

I wonder if they charge by the amp-hour?

Offline GarryMartin

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2016, 05:37 AM »
There are blue mains voltage plugs and sockets (Like above but in blue) avalible but pretty much the only time I see those is connected upto a generator or hooked upto the side of a caravan.

The 16A blue plugs are also commonly used in workshops for larger stationery machinery; large saws, spindle moulders, planers etc. that draw more than a 13A 230V plug can deliver.

Offline Nickhead

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2016, 06:20 AM »
I would much rather use 240 but some sites insist on it and it's not worth having two sets of tools!!

240?... 110?...

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Offline demographic

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2016, 01:33 PM »
The 16A blue plugs are also commonly used in workshops for larger stationery machinery; large saws, spindle moulders, planers etc. that draw more than a 13A 230V plug can deliver.

Most of the workshop tools like large saws and spindle moulders (shapers to the Americans) I've seen use the red plugs and three phase.

Offline Davej

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2016, 02:08 PM »
The 16A blue plugs are also commonly used in workshops for larger stationery machinery; large saws, spindle moulders, planers etc. that draw more than a 13A 230V plug can deliver.

Most of the workshop tools like large saws and spindle moulders (shapers to the Americans) I've seen use the red plugs and three phase.

Blue plug is single phase ,  red , as you say, is 3 phase
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Offline Nickhead

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Re: 110v transformer systainer?
« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2016, 02:43 PM »
had a rubbish day today,

cut the top off a 110v transformer and made a cradle for the box with a lid, took me a couple of hours of faffing around with 9mm mdf and glue.

Put a top on it and then realised with the chock blocks ontop it wouldnt fit in the sys3.

looks like it might be a 4 or even a 5 if I want to carry extension leads with it so i might just leave the 110v box complete!