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Offline jonny round boy

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I posted a few weeks ago about my Systainer radio/charger, and I'm now developing this a bit further. In order to do this I needed some very accurate templates to produce the systainer inserts. For the first one I simply drew around one of the Festool tool inserts, but that is a bit too vague.

Veritas have some templates available in PDF format (there's a link somewhere on FOG), but I found them to be inaccurate in some areas, so I decided to draw my own up. Mine are (I believe) very accurate, and fit the walls of the systainer quite snugly, but not too tight. There are separate templates for the bottom of the systainers and further up. Here's the lower template (just printed on card & taped together) in a sys2:



And here's the upper template:



I've drawn up 2 versions; firstly, a sketchup model which contains both templates in one file. They are extruded to 6mm thickness, but obviously can be exploded and changed to suit your requirements. The file is in the SketchUp warehouse HERE.

Secondly, I've drawn them up as DWG files. These are much better for printing out at 1:1 scale using any DWG viewer (or DraftSight, as I've just posted about). For the DWG files, there are 4 separate files; left and right pieces of each of the upper and lower sections. These will just about fit onto an A4 or letter size sheet. Files are attached to this post (zipped). All 4 of these drawings are dimensioned (all dimensions are inside the shape so they're still visible when cut out, so it looks a bit messy!) but the dimensions are all on a separate layer so they can be turned off if required.

Both the SketchUp and DWG templates are dimensionally exactly the same, so you can design your insert in SketchUp, and then print out the DWGs & stick them onto your material to cut out.

The templates will fit in all the T-Loc systainers from 1-5. There are fewer internal ribs in the sys1, but the template still fits (it's just that there are a couple of notches that are unnecessary for the sys1).


Feel free to use them in any way you wish, though I would appreciate a credit for any commercial use.

If anyone finds any anomalies with them, please let me know.



Jonathan

Edit 21/05/15 - For some reason, the zipped file was no longer showing, so I've re-attached it.

* SysInserts.zip (114.05 kB - downloaded 3855 times.)
« Last Edit: May 21, 2015, 06:18 AM by jonny round boy »
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Offline dicktill

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2013, 12:59 PM »
 [thanks] Jonathan!

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Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2013, 02:09 PM »
Since I was supposed to be doing something else, I have converted the JRB's Sketchup files to PDF's for anyone who is interested.

You can print them out to A3 (11.7 x 16.3) landscape, or tile them from your laser printer.

Tim

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2013, 06:49 AM »
Cheers, Tim!

I've just printed out one of those from Acrobat at 100%, and they're bang on.


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Offline Alan m

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2013, 04:19 PM »
thanks JRB .
how did you work out the measurements. was it trial and error or did you used some fancy way to work it out.

i would lie to do the same for the dewalt togh system
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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2013, 04:56 PM »
how did you work out the measurements. was it trial and error or did you used some fancy way to work it out.

A combination of both, really. Measured it as close as I could, then drew it up & printed it out. Tried it for fit, and then adjusted where necessary. Took about 3 revisions to get it right (on the lower one). Once I'd got that right, just tried it higher up & added the extra bits in where necessary.
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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2013, 10:52 PM »
Just curious how you get Sketchup to print at 1:1 printout?  Particularly with the free version.

Any tips would be great!  I can print but never can get to 1:1 representation in the free version.  I think you can in the Pro version.

neil

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2013, 06:42 AM »
Just curious how you get Sketchup to print at 1:1 printout?  Particularly with the free version.

Any tips would be great!  I can print but never can get to 1:1 representation in the free version.  I think you can in the Pro version.

neil

Neil,

That's why I created the DWG files too - I used to be able to print at 1:1 from SketchUp, but in the newer versions that ability seems to have been lost. The setup options are still there, but it simply doesn't work! On one test print I did, some measurements were 2mm oversize, and some were 2mm undersize - on the same printout!

If one were sceptical, one might say it's a deliberate move to push people towards buying the pro version. But I would never say that... [big grin]

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2013, 09:34 AM »
A bit late to this thread, but I wanted to mention that I like your upper template.

In another recent thread, someone asked how they could use the space above their tool(s) in a typical Systainer.  Seeing your upper template leads me to believe that if one were to build something out of 1/4" plywood to specs of your template, and, perhaps, move the tool(s) to a larger Systainer, say 3 to 4 or 5, etc..., then there would be plenty of space to hold the extra "stuff"above the tool in a home-built tray that would sit atop those tabs.

Just an idea I thought I would throw out there.
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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2013, 07:20 PM »
Jonathan, I could not open the DWG files on my version of DraftSight (11.2.802) Do you recall what version of DWG you saved in?
Thanks
Jonathan

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2013, 03:21 AM »
Jonathan, I could not open the DWG files on my version of DraftSight (11.2.802) Do you recall what version of DWG you saved in?
Thanks
Jonathan

It's saved as 'R2013 Drawing (*.dwg)'. DraftSight is Version V1R4 x64.

If you PM me your e-mail address & let me know what version you want, I'd be happy to save as that & e-mail them to you.

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Offline Jonnio

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2014, 04:17 AM »
Thanks so much for these, I've just started with Festool and am just starting to realize the great potential of the systainer system. I think these inserts have tonns of potential!! Cheers.

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2014, 03:23 AM »
<snip> I used to be able to print at 1:1 from SketchUp, but in the newer versions that ability seems to have been lost. The setup options are still there, but it simply doesn't work! On one test print I did, some measurements were 2mm oversize, and some were 2mm undersize - on the same printout!

Jonathan

Are you sure that wasn't just your NAINA Festool tape measure?!

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2014, 09:56 AM »
Thank you very much i was dreading having to do this so i could cut some inserts. Your efforts are greatly appreciated

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2014, 01:45 PM »
Just curious how you get Sketchup to print at 1:1 printout?  Particularly with the free version.

Any tips would be great!  I can print but never can get to 1:1 representation in the free version.  I think you can in the Pro version.

neil

Neil:
You can get Sketchup to print out at 1:1 with the free version of Sketchup.
Here's how:
First you need to make sure you have a PDF printer loaded in your printer devices. If you don't, you can download cutepdf printer from the internet.
When you are ready to create a PDF of your Sketchup drawing, just select print set up and in the print window drop down dialogue box, select PDF printer. In the paper size area, you must select the closest size and orientation (landscape or portrait) that will allow the drawing to fit without tiling.
Then select properties button and then click the Paper/quality tab and then click the Advanced tab in that window make sure the pdf is printing at 100%.
Now go to print, and you will notice that the PDF printer dialogue box automatically comes up the print size should be indicated in the print size section of that dialogue box.
To test, just print and it will generate a PDF of your drawing which you can open and check.

Hope that helps
Tim


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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2014, 11:43 AM »
Any chance anyone's got the same thing for the Sys Midi?  Just need the bottom.

Thanks,

Anthony

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2014, 01:35 PM »
Any chance anyone's got the same thing for the Sys Midi?  Just need the bottom.

Thanks,

Anthony
Here's another source from Brice Burrell's blog:
SketchUp model of the Festool T-Loc Systainers.

Some dimensions of the T-Lock will be the same for Sys Midi.  Maybe you can extrapolate from there?  This article may help.
First Look: The New Systainer Midi.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2014, 02:18 PM by rljatl »

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2014, 02:55 PM »
My winter project is going to be building a CNC router for my shop (mostly for guitar parts). However, one of the first things I plan to do is take these systainer templates "3D" and have the CNC machine cut full inserts that account for all the little notches that must be made in Kaizen foam inserts.

Should be fun.

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2014, 03:21 PM »
My winter project is going to be building a CNC router for my shop (mostly for guitar parts). However, one of the first things I plan to do is take these systainer templates "3D" and have the CNC machine cut full inserts that account for all the little notches that must be made in Kaizen foam inserts.

Should be fun.

I'm sure you'll have a LOT of interest from people who would like to buy them from you...INCLUDING ME!

Let us know when you're 'in business'?
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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2018, 12:30 PM »
OOow this is handy ! but someone got a template of the lid? cant find it no where :(

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Re: Accurate SketchUp Drawings & Templates for T-Loc Systainer Inserts
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2018, 06:46 PM »
The original post had a link with the sketchup drawings. That link is no longer functioning. However, this link appears to be the correct sketchup drawings

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/edf07d0204c1820b7adda53967d00c3f/Systainer-Inserts