I saw an air compressor based on a systainer on ebay.de (the German site) a few weeks ago. I've just tried searching for it again but the listing has presumably been deleted. I think it was a homemade one rather than a commercial product, but I couldn't check as I don't speak German. Since then I've been toying with the idea of cannibalising my small 6 litre compressor & trying to fit it into a sys 4 (or possibly a 5). Has anyone out there tried something similar?

I was thinking of mounting the tank in the bottom, with a small cut-out in the side to access the drainage valve, with the compressor itself above that, and (hopefully) an area at the top in which to store a coiled air hose. The main issue I can see (apart from fitting it all in!) would be dissipating the heat from the compressor.

Any thoughts/ comments/criticisms welcome!!!

Hi,

      You could even rig a small fan to move air through. The type are used in elctronics cabinets, etc.  I have a compressor that almost fits in a Sys - IV with out modifying I was really hoping I could just drop it in ( the tank is about an inch too long). Oh well. It could go in a Maxi Systainer if the maxi was taller.



Thanks

Hey, Brice!

       Thats the same compressor I wanted to just drop in. O.K. so you removed the frame? that way the tank fits? and added a leader hose to your opening. Does that power cord just get stuffed back in  or is there a self winder hidden in there? Any other mods? supports underneath?    How about ventillation?  Looks like you have it in a Sys -V, but I think it would go in a  - IV.

    P.S. Nice Private Ryan style camera work

Seth

Brice,

Thanks for that! It's obviously possible to do, and relatively easy. He didn't seem to have issues with heat, there wasn't even a vent cut in the systainer!

Looks like I have a project to work on over the coming weeks....

Edit: I found some manufacturer's data for the one I saw on eBay.

You beat me to it!!!

The picture at the bottom of the PDF page in my previous post does show an additional reservoir systainer, exactly as you describe...

First thought: the camera person must have finished off the nitrous oxide. (how cattie of me)

I don't have shop air. I have two compressors...all are too noisy. I think I will concentrate my efforts of getting one outside or as far away from me in the shop as possible.

Hi,

     I just did some more measuring on my Senco compressor. It will go into a Systainer - IV . The handle needs to be cut off at the bottom of the vertical portion. Or removed and the tank motor remounted on something like a piece of plywood. Either one is pretty easy and then it will fit right in.  I will probably keep it simple and just coil the hose and cord right on top.  This should work well if I put my guns in Systainer - I s and II s . I could then just attach what ever gun i need to the compressor and go. 
          BTW this will not be for heavy use. Just light install work.

Seth

I agree!  One of the charms of YouTube is the rough edges of the videos.  However, I was feeling dizzy watching this.

Also, um, how about the soundtrack?

Still, I'm happy to see the concept, and glad someone took the time to share it.

Matthew

Hi,

    It looks like the compressor might be a little too tall for the Sys five even without the handle. There is an extender made for systainers. It ads about four inches to the top of any size. It looks like a sytainer - one with no top and is bottomless. but the latches are in place to connect right on. Festool doesn't have it but I know it is available from www.kofferfunshop.de    And other places in Europe. You could use it to make the Sys five taller.


Seth

Okay, I tried harder, here it is
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280096570279

listing is expired but it gives you a good idea. Guy's name is Jim Sutton.

Found it again on this thread:
http://toolmonger.com/2007/03/09/hot-or-not-portable-compressed-co2-regulatortank-for-nailers/#comments

I'm still so tempted by this...

Hi,

    Another air source when you don't need a lot of shots is a portable air tank.  I have a five gallon that gives me 75 good shots with an 18ga brad gun. On the other end I can get about ten with the framing nailer.  It won't fit in a systainer, but it is pretty handy to carry from place to place with a coil hose on it.

Seth

Hi,

   Yes, I don't know if the CO2 is necessarily a good idea. I just wanted to let people considering it know about a filling option.  In the long run a compressor is probably the best all around option. I have used my regular portable air tank on quite a few occasions.

Seth

Here's a pic of the Jac Pac. with this 10 ounce co2 container they claim you can shoot 250 brads. If you disconnect a lot then i would say you get about 175 brads. I refill the cans at any sporting good store or paintball store for $2 dollars. The kit in the picture is the regulator, hose and cannister and it runs around $93. It easily fits in a systainer and you can use bigger cannisters if you have a bigger job. After i am done installing a floor I use this jac pac to tack up base shoe if it's a small job. Or you can use it for patch type jobs. They also make a kit that comes with a gun that is made to run off the Co2. The gun is an 18 gauge brad and staple combo. You don't have to buy the gun however, just use your normal gun. I have found no problems using c02 or air running through a pneumatic nailer, as long as you keep it oiled I don't see how the co2 would mess up your gun? If you buy the regulator, hose, cannister and gun it's around 150. Sometimes I use a 20 oz cannister and that only costs me $3 0r $4 to fill. Now you have 300 to 500 shots easily. The jac pac regulator fits easily onto your belt and is so light. and the components do fit in a small systainer because i just tried it! I do however recommend a 10 oz container if you are actually going to hook it to your belt. If your skinny like me the 20 oz can when full has the tendency to give me a bit of plumbers crack! Just a tad heavier!

My question is also this...... If you have a full blown compressor in a systainer, you still have to lift it out all the time to release the air pressure if you use it on a daily basis so that the water build up doesn't rust out the tanks. Plus, loud, loud, loud is all i think of when you put a compressor in a systainer. If you are looking for ease of use wouldn't this be a pain? And yes the video, although cool, made me feel like i was stuck in a horrible 80's video with that soundtrack! But i guess it gives you something to believe in eh!


Cheers

Eli,

Regular compressed air also gets cold when it expands at point of use. This happens at expansion and mostly upon exit from the tool. Heat is the usual enemy to most tools. As long as you oil at proper intervals I don't see the CO2 being any worse on a tool. My $.02.

Right now i know the jac pac is selling a regulator kit, but don't know about buying just the regulator. The kit comes with everything you see in my previous post pic and is about 53 bucks. You then get a hose, one ten ounce cannister, regulator and it comes in the kit. Hope this helps a little bit. have a good one my friend.