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Offline lwoirhaye

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Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« on: December 03, 2016, 07:52 PM »
I bought a padded 34" shotgun bag on ebay.  Fits perfectly.
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Offline Samo

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2016, 07:58 PM »
Pic's or a link?  Welcome to the fog but we need proof or it didn't happen.

 [big grin]

Offline lwoirhaye

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2016, 08:30 PM »
It's being sold under the brand name "NcStar" but make sure to order the 34" one as the FSK is itself 32" long.  I'll post a pic later.  The bag says it is PVC but the material is like ballistic nylon weave so it doesn't feel or look like vinyl.
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Offline Samo

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2016, 12:56 AM »
Found this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D98GXKQ/ref=twister_B00XRHGMXC

Looks like a rifle scope manufacturer.   Nice find  [big grin]

Offline Kev

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2016, 04:08 AM »
What's so wrong with the Festool FSK bags? I think they're pretty good.

Offline lwoirhaye

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2016, 12:25 PM »
pics
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Offline mrB

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2016, 06:53 PM »
well it's a perfect fit! Assuming it was notably cheaper than the Festool one you found a winner there.
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

Offline Kev

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2016, 09:27 PM »
well it's a perfect fit! Assuming it was notably cheaper than the Festool one you found a winner there.

... and you're happy with the potential outcomes of carrying a misleading bag around and onto job sites [wink] [big grin]

Offline Brice Burrell

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2016, 09:01 AM »
well it's a perfect fit! Assuming it was notably cheaper than the Festool one you found a winner there.

... and you're happy with the potential outcomes of carrying a misleading bag around and onto job sites [wink] [big grin]

It's just a black bag, nothing to suggest there would be anything nefarious inside.

I bought a inexpensive plain black rifle bag similar to the one lwoirhaye has.  It is decent quality at a much lower price than the Festool bags.  If you search around you can find a decent bag for around $30 USD. 

This is one I have, from Amazon, UTG 38" rifle bag.  This bag is a little longer than needed for the 420 rail, I'm pretty sure it's too short for the 670 rail.  Right now it is $27.99 with free shipping.   
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Offline Bill Waters

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2016, 08:13 PM »
I hope this isn't a hijack since the subject is "bags" for rails, but I have essentially all lengths of rails, as well as the shelf pin rail which I need to transport & store.  Hang them from the holes in the ends when home, but am contemplating a more rigid solution, such as sleeves made from 1/4" plywood for the top/bottom and maybe 1/2" ply for the very slim sides.  Has anybody worked through this and found a good solution.
Thanks,

Bill

Offline antss

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2016, 08:47 AM »
Bill,  when FT first landed in the U.S. , they shipped their guide rails in a box very similar to what you describe.

  I used it for transport for a short time but found it too heavy. It also tended to ding up walls, auto panels, and scratch finished surfaces in customers' homes. It was also awkward to carry in and out.   I quickly had a dress maker sew me a bag out of canvas with a zipper on the end and webbing for a carry handle.

Along with the TS intro, FT brought along their own carry bag which I bought begrudgingly because of the cost.  Was better than the homebrew one I had made, but is no where near worth what FT is charging. It needs to be made more durable, a tab added to allow hanging it on a hook or nail - like Stabila's level bags , and need s to be about a cm longer so as not to damage the rails' splinter strips when removing and inserting the rails.

I've briefly looked at the HK bag and it seems to suffer from the same deficiencies.  FT should do better.

Offline lwoirhaye

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2016, 01:10 PM »
I hope this isn't a hijack since the subject is "bags" for rails, but I have essentially all lengths of rails, as well as the shelf pin rail which I need to transport & store.  Hang them from the holes in the ends when home, but am contemplating a more rigid solution, such as sleeves made from 1/4" plywood for the top/bottom and maybe 1/2" ply for the very slim sides.  Has anybody worked through this and found a good solution.
Thanks,

Bill

This fellow has some ideas. 

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Offline Bill Waters

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2016, 09:58 PM »
Antss - I agree; Festool's bags are really pricey for what you get, and I have seen them in only one size.  If someone offered a stiff canvas bag with hardboard stiffeners, that'd be a great solution.

Iwoirhaye- that fellow certainly does have some ideas!  Hadn't thought about the need to protect the splinter strips, etc., but that is an important consideration.  The carriage bolt approach is a great solution.  I will likely construct a modified version of his idea.  I really appreciate your taking the time to post that You Tube piece.

Happy New Year!

Bill

Offline pixelated

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2016, 11:48 AM »
I have an otherwise unused tripod bag for photographic tripods that the 420 rail fits nicely into.
My other plan had been to find a snowboard bag, they show up with fair regularity in the thrift stores and such here.

Offline RustE

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2016, 11:57 AM »
Corrugated plastic makes for a very good stiffener or separation panel.  This material is lightweight, reasonably stiff, and does not collect moisture.  Should be available at most hardware and home improvement stores too.

Can anyone with the Festool tote for the FSK 420 or FSK 670 guide rails describe the interior?  Many of the rifle or shotgun bags have a softer interior lining that might want to collect sawdust.

Offline PreferrablyWood

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2017, 07:39 AM »
That's definitely on my list. I would like a stiffened interior compartment with a softer padded exterior as protecting the inside of the home, or vehicle is also a major consideration. I don't think rails that are shorter the 1400 rails need that beefy protection, so the Bag solution is good enough. I would consider making a stiffer plywood/corrugated plastic inner core version for rails 1400 and above. Still need the outer shell til be padded at the corners though.
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Offline Coen

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2017, 03:55 PM »
Bill,  when FT first landed in the U.S. , they shipped their guide rails in a box very similar to what you describe.

All the rails? In Europe they still ship the 2400 and larger in wooden boxes.

I've in the past made a box for my FS/2 800. MDF all around, with magnets to keep the lid on. Way too heavy, but it did a good job keeping the rail clean and whole. Now the 800 is in the side pocket of the FS-Bag (the old one, #466357).

Offline antss

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Re: Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2017, 09:20 PM »
@Coen - cant say with certainty on the entire lineup , but my early fs1080 and fs1400 rails came in the wooden boxes.

My memory is foggy, but I think it was around 2006ish last time I remember the boxes. 

@Bill Waters - the first gen bags had cardboard stiffeners on the front side.   They've since gone to foam it seems and put it on the back now.
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Offline pettyconstruction

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Bag for FSK 420 guide rail
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2017, 11:27 PM »
The spearfishing folks have some bags for spearguns.
The are very padded but only are about 83"-84" long.
Good for the 75" rail,but that's about it.
Riffe is one company and mares is another.
I'll try to post a link.
http://shop.mares.com/us/attack-gun.html
Charlie


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