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Offline BJM9818

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Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« on: March 02, 2018, 11:28 PM »
I have around 75 systainers and they are stacked on top of each other in 7 different piles.  It's becoming a real pain to constantly dig around to grab the one I want.  While it would be nice to pull the trigger on 20+ sys-ports I would rather waste my money elsewhere.

What is everybody using for plywood boxes to hold the systainers?  Are the sys-az drawers worth the money or should I buy generic slides somewhere else?  I most likely will be building a new metal building sometime end of summer so I will need to eventually move these.  I was thinking modeling the frames off the Sys-port size and just stacking them together. 

Anybody ever weld together a sys-port? Just looking for ideas.

Thanks


Offline neilc

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2018, 12:00 AM »
Sysport size or lower for an under MFT or go with a chaos wall or lower cabinets below saws and tools.  All work! 


Use a minimum 16” full extension slide.  They allow the Systainer to clear the front and open.  I order from cshardware.com. Great pricing, service and selection.  1/2” wide on each side.  I seem to recall width of 17” for SysAZ.  There is a PDF on installation you can download if you search FestoolUSA.com.

I like the SysAz drawers and have a few but have also just built drawers.  I usually use 1/4” or 3/16” dowels to register the systainers rather than doing full drawers with sides. Faster and you can use a single bottom from 5/8 or 3/4 ply and four dowels.  Front two drop between the pins for old style Systainer connections in the front.  Rear two do the same on the sides.

One tip... use 32mm system but double up the holes to every 16mm for finer adjustment and more density of Systainers.  You have a lot to store.With the 16mm spacing and the dowel trick you have almost no wasted space.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2018, 12:03 AM by neilc »

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2018, 12:07 AM »
I use both AZ's and shop made draws. Side mounts are fine for this application.

Agree on the 16mm spacing.

Tom

Offline blaszcsj

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2018, 02:21 PM »
I was looking at some cheap undermount Blum style slides on eBay or side slides. The 22” euro style makes it too deep and wastes space.

I go back and forth on if I feel like making some or just buying the Sys az. It just so expensive for a drawer. But so easy,.,.
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Offline BJM9818

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2018, 03:10 PM »
Thanks for the responses everybody. Ill probably use the sys AZ for the first box and see how it goes. They aren’t cheap but at less than $50 each I think from a time & material perspective it’s going to be cheaper in the long run instead of building drawers.

I have one stupid question. If I use my LR 32 on the box and space it every 16mm(great idea thanks). How does the sys-az drawers attach to the base with the holes. I’m assuming I’m not using a standard shelf pin for it to rest on? I have never seen one in person.   Is there a certain depth the cabinet needs to be? 

Offline neilc

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2018, 05:48 PM »
The SysAZ comes with the Euro screws that go into the 32mm holes.  Each drawer has 5 screws as I recall - four for the drawer glides and one that is slightly longer to hold a retaining clip that you release with the green handle in the center.


Here's the install PDF that gives you what you need for spacing -


https://service.festoolusa.com/media/pdf/706994_002_MonAnl_SYS-AZ_Auszug%20.pdf

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2018, 09:12 PM »
Just my 2 cents
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Offline blaszcsj

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2018, 11:22 PM »
Just my 2 cents

How do the systainers sit in the drawer? What is the drawer @Billy
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Offline Billy stray

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2018, 08:07 AM »
The slides are there,@blaszcsj, the drawers can be any design your comfortable with
That system enables you to change the layout..
« Last Edit: March 09, 2018, 08:09 AM by Billy stray »
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Offline Dick Mahany

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2018, 08:09 AM »
Just my 2 cents

I like the 2nd pic.  Nice idea that will allow quick, tool-less rearrangement if desired.

Offline BJM9818

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2018, 01:36 PM »
Just my 2 cents

How much are the drawer slides? 

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2018, 12:14 AM »
Those are 16" KV brand I bought a box of 10 pair from my plywood  supply house for about $100.00
« Last Edit: March 10, 2018, 12:20 AM by Billy stray »
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Offline fritter63

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2018, 11:58 PM »
I think I used 350 mm (maybe 400 mm) full extension sliders. You can get them pretty cheap from Custom Service Hardware

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Offline BJM9818

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2018, 11:27 AM »
I think I used 350 mm (maybe 400 mm) full extension sliders. You can get them pretty cheap from Custom Service Hardware

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Nice looking sysports.  Where you find the green wheels?

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
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Offline DTSaskatoon

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2018, 10:15 PM »
Buy a single Festool drawer slide and decide if you like it. I bought one for a small project and decided that I liked it and I’ll make a larger order in the future.

Offline JBag09

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2018, 09:22 AM »
These are what I used on my sys-ports. They were 14” full extension, and they do clear the front of the cabinet just enough to fully open the lid completely. You can build them out of whatever you wish, I used birch plywood for mine. I was going to try A/C plywood to save some money per sheet. I also drilled mine with the LR32 and I do have a list of how many holes between each for the different size systainers if your interested.

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Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2018, 09:36 AM »
I made my own drawers to hold the systainers using BB 15mm and 8mm dominos. 6mm for the bottom. My local lumber yard sells DSPro Serie 100 14" for $7.50. The 14" are very close fit.

If you plan to order drawer slides online, make sure the shipping is free or not comes too heavy  [blink]

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Offline rst

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2018, 09:44 AM »
I bought 1270-Z 12" Full Extension with Over-travel 100 lb. Ball Bearing Drawer Slides on Ebay from Gliderite @ 5.49.  I have 20 so far and they are great.  With the drawer all the way out I can open the sys lid fully without removing the sys from the drawer.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2018, 09:51 AM by rst »

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2018, 10:00 AM »
@rst what is the Sys sitting on and how is it connected to the slides?

Also, what is the shear panel between uprights?
Did you use 2 flange square tube in the back?

Offline rst

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2018, 10:10 AM »
I had 18 ga steel U pans made and cut out squares with a pencil grinder and steel cutting discs.  The angled back feet on the sys fit into the squres and catch and the front feet sit down into the holes locking the sys into the shelf. The frame is 8020 quick frame, single fin.  The back panel is face screwed to the framing. The panels are .220 black haircell ABS.  The cabinet is movable using quick frame three way extrusions with holes for posted wheel sets.

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2018, 10:51 AM »
I made my sysports out of 1/2 baltic birch (a couple out of 3/4 shop birch) Used 16" blum euro drawer slides cost about $4 each or if I bought a box it would be cheaper.

The photo is the sysports under the MFTs. These are new I used 12" blu euro slides in 13" deep boxes bc I was going for storage and saving space using space under the MFTs. BTW the empty wall you see in the rear with the shelving was full of doubled up w systainers . Next is to build small Guido wall or work bench like Thom has


« Last Edit: April 04, 2018, 10:55 AM by jobsworth »

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2018, 10:54 AM »
@rst That’s the most space efficient SysPort yet!

Is the steel U panel bolted or riveted to the slides?

Offline rst

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2018, 08:29 PM »
Bolted, I almost always build things so I can modify, firm believer in the 3M motto...do it, try it, fix it.  Slides attached to frame with tapped screws.  I actually changed the tray layout from the original after subsequent purchases.  Next one I will layout tapped holes with top to bottom 32mm spacing.

Offline supermono

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2018, 08:13 AM »
I do not use drawers but shelves with a relief that way with an extra 15 mm or so i can pick up any systainer and pull it out completely. But then again i'm using the same in a van so i'm used to it.

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Re: Best drawer slides for systainer cabinets?
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2018, 02:12 PM »
Great thread! Lots of good info here!
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