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« on: November 16, 2009, 03:15 PM » |
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I tried doing a search but to no avail. A few months ago someone put a picture on a thread of a compressor, hose & a couple of nail gun's inside a systainer. I really like this idea & would like to know the size & make of the compressor. I did come across the "PREBENA AEROTAINER 200 compressor in a Systainer" which looks really cool also. Anyone used the Prebena system & what do you think of them.
Thanks in advance, Woodguy.
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If its made of wood, i can make it smaller.
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 03:51 PM » |
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Not sure, if this is the thread you're thinking of or not. It's a couple years old but might help. |
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woodguy7
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 04:10 PM » |
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Hi Steve, no this is not the one but there is some good points in there, thanks for finding. The thread i am thinking about wasn't necessarily about a compressor in a systainer but i think it wandered a bit, which happens & someone posted a pic with all the gear in it.
Cheers, Woodguy.
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Brice Burrell
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 04:19 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 04:24 PM » |
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I looked into it a while ago, for I wanted a nice and neat portable compressor for on-site use - lugging around a 3 Hp 100 litre belt driven beast gets old VERY fast. But the Prebena is rather steeply priced, and if you want it to be any useful you'll have to buy the additional systainer with the ( small! ) buffer tank - the extra tank is 10 litres, there's a 3 litre tank in the Aerotainer. That's two big systainers ( sys IV or sys V, I don't know for sure ) for a huge amount of money, and it's not very powerful ( 1,5 Hp, and not particularly efficient ) . I've used Prebena tackers, and wasn't impressed - not very bad, but certainly not up to festool standard ( the good news is they aren't very expensive either ). The systainers are a nice gimmick, and if you absolutely need all your gear to be systainer-compatible, I guess it's a nice option. I ended up with a nice compact dual tank ( 22 litres total ) 2,5 Hp compressor with two thick rubber wheels and a foldable handle AND a nice 100' hose on reel for just about half of what the Prebena set would have cost me, and have been very pleased with it since. I will swap the PVC airhose for a rubber one in the foreseeable future, but that's just because I'm a spoiled brat  Regards, Job |
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woodguy7
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 04:30 PM » |
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I can see that this is not a new idea. I do have a Bostitch compressor but for occasional use i would like one in a systainer. Loads of good ideas out there.
Cheers, woodguy.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 04:40 PM » |
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Woodguy,
Check for JacPac CO2 cartridges. Comes in a plastic container. Not a compressor but serves somewhat the same purpose. Nickao had a thread on this that looks pretty good. Might be this is what you were thinking about.
Neill
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2009, 04:45 PM » |
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Na, that ain't it either. I understand these canister type nail gun's are quite common in the states, but i have not seen them on this side of the pond. I will look into it though, i like the idea.
Woodguy
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 05:13 PM » |
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I will swap the PVC airhose for a rubber one in the foreseeable future, but that's just because I'm a spoiled brat Regards, Job I will assume that you have access to polyurethane air hoses. If you haven't looked into them, you might want to before you buy rubber hose. Peter |
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 05:15 PM » |
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If I were working interior trim by myself (no framing nails to shoot) and looking for something "Systainer-able", I'd give this compressor a close look: http://www.senco.com/con_rem/ViewTool.aspx?toolid=175I had one that came bundled with a stapler. My brother-in-law needed a small compressor, and since I had a couple good (but larger) pancakes, I gave him the Senco. I've kicked myself a dozen times for giving him that one instead of one of the larger ones. That little Senco was one of the quietest compressors I've ever seen, and shooting staples as fast as I could go, it kicked on infrequently and recovered quickly. |
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 05:16 PM » |
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I will assume that you have access to polyurethane air hoses. If you haven't looked into them, you might want to before you buy rubber hose.
Peter
I agree, it's just as flexible but more resilient. |
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 05:18 PM » |
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Are you thinking of this? It's a 1 hp Senco. I just cut off the handle. I holds a 15 ga., 18 ga., and 23 ga pinner. 50ft of hose, the compressor, and I took the attic lid from my t 15 sys 2 and put it on this sys 5 for nails. Completely self contained. I think the thread started out about the attic lid on the drill sys 2's.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2009, 05:25 PM » |
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Jeff, I have one of those compressors, love it. One of my better purchases and my back thanks me. Recovery time is just a bit on the slow side for trim work but its size and weight more than make up for that. I believe I saw a post where someone was able to put one of these in a Systainer.
EDIT: I knew I saw someone that had one of these, thanks for posting Dan.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2009, 08:04 PM » |
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Dan, Thanks for that. That is the one i seen. I new someone would come forward. What size of a tank is on the compressor & is it a no 4 or 5 systainer ? Again, nicely done  Thanks, Woodguy. Edit - just noticed its an sys 5 |
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2009, 08:29 PM » |
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Woodguy, It's a 1 gal tank. It really is a great little compressor, especially for the price ( about 140.00 USD) I have been using them for years. As Brice said, it's really quiet. Recovery time is slow, but for me it's ok. I shoot mainly 23 ga. pins, 18 ga brads, and a very few 15 ga brads, pretty much all in crown and decorative trims. No production work here.
I don't know how they would hold up under heavy use ( meaning lots of recycles per work day, like on production trim jobs.) I only shoot maybe 3-400 brads per day.
I'd recommend it for the right use,
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2009, 09:52 PM » |
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Woodguy, It's a 1 gal tank. It really is a great little compressor, especially for the price ( about 140.00 USD) I have been using them for years. As Brice said, it's really quiet. Recovery time is slow, but for me it's ok. I shoot mainly 23 ga. pins, 18 ga brads, and a very few 15 ga brads, pretty much all in crown and decorative trims. No production work here.
I don't know how they would hold up under heavy use ( meaning lots of recycles per work day, like on production trim jobs.) I only shoot maybe 3-400 brads per day.
I'd recommend it for the right use,
Dan
400 brads in one kitchen??  Must be bigger than my house!! |
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2009, 09:59 PM » |
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Is this what you are looking for.
Hate the music, but love the setup. |
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2009, 10:12 PM » |
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400 brads in one kitchen?? Must be bigger than my house!! Certainly bigger than mine!!! Actually, most of my crown build ups are 3-5pcs. Add backers, etc, and you get a lot of shots. But, compared to the big boys running miles of base and casings, a few hundred shots a day is nothing. |
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2009, 10:13 PM » |
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I found the following on youtube couple month ago I wonder how he did the plate for connecting the compressor hose
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2013, 03:30 PM » |
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I too have a Senco that I really appreciate and would like to fit it in a systainer for better transport. When measuring the new sys3's it doesn't seem like they are wide enough to hold the Senco. When you cut the bars off, did you also move the motor and copper (?) piping closer to the tank to fit it in the systainer or  Inquiring minds want to know... |
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« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2013, 07:32 PM » |
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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2013, 05:38 PM » |
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I would also like more details on this please
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2013, 08:46 PM » |
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The Senco does not fit into T-locs, you have to use a classic.
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2013, 08:19 AM » |
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Actually, it does, but the wrap around handle needs to be cut off. No other modifications are required for a sys 4.  |
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2013, 06:17 PM » |
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Thanks for that Dan, I was trying with the tank facing the back and it didn't look like it was going to fit. I had the angle grinder and was ready for handle surgery and whimped out. Did you take off the feet and bolt the compressor down like you had with the classic you used to use?
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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2013, 08:35 PM » |
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Hi Kevin, I did take off the feet to transfer to the sys, but I did not bolt the compressor to the systainer. I do have a small piece of scrap carpet in the base of the sys under the compressor for vibration control. Besides portability, sound control is a big deal for me.
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2013, 09:03 PM » |
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Hi Dan,
Do the sides of the systainer get excessively hot when it's been operating for a while?
I looked a one of our local compact compressors that'd be a possible fit ... a bit of "surgery" required.
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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2013, 09:23 PM » |
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Kev,
No, the systainer does not seem to heat up, but I mostly just shoot 18 ga brads and 23 ga pins. I've also drilled some make up air holes in the sides, that probably helps.
I'd be concerned if the compressor recycles repeatedly for extended periods, but you could just open the lid...
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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2013, 03:11 PM » |
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