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Offline Scott in Bend

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2014, 10:52 AM »
Great idea!

Does your T-Loc handle center faceplate have Tanos-style latching tabs on the back?  Or are they flat and affixed with double-backed tape or adhesive?

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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2014, 12:05 PM »
Great idea!

Does your T-Loc handle center faceplate have Tanos-style latching tabs on the back?  Or are they flat and affixed with double-backed tape or adhesive?

They'll be flat on the back - you can see that in one of the pictures. I don't think it'd be possible to make them on this type of 3D printer with the tabs on the back too.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2014, 12:16 PM »
Oh man awesome ideas! I see this keeping you busy for a while. Thanks for sharing! I will be thinking of what to have you print.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2014, 01:31 PM »
There a lot of possibilities, very nice idea
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Offline Carman

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2014, 03:33 PM »
Is it possible to add "ACC" in smaller font under the standard letters for labeling the accessory systainers?

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2014, 03:52 PM »
Instead of adding ACC under the tool name for accessory systainers...make them a different color with the tool name on it.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2014, 07:44 PM »
@ Scott - They are flat on the back, but I added little half ellipses at 4 points to make a tight pressure fit. I would probably still recommend some adhesive or double sided tape to make them permanent, but they hold really well on their own.




Thanks for the feedback/suggestions. I'll have time tomorrow to do some tests.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2014, 03:24 AM »
Awesome!  .... oh and  [welcome]

Please count me in to order the T-Loc Handles!  (I have too many systainers stacked, and hard to find what I'm looking for from a distance. Your solution IS a solution!!) [tongue]

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2014, 05:23 AM »
Ben - Welcome

I would be interested in handles and latches as well, please add me to your list.

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« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2014, 10:19 PM »
Count me in too. I really like the cleats so that a stack can become a work surface.

I definitely need the first aid kit ones. I was thinking about ordering a couple systainers direct from Germany to get red and white ones for first aid kits.

Custom inserts - KTM - I use one for my motorcycle tools at the track
                           Bike  - I have one for all my cycle specific tools

I also use them for various computer related tools and parts. All just begging for custom knob inserts.

Awesome idea!!!

(BTW, I don't know what your store plans are, but selling on ebay could be done without a store and would only take a few minutes to create a listing. We could just put the color and label information in the purchase notes.)

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2014, 10:44 PM »
Ben:

I'm trying to decide what I could do to identify accessories (like abrasives?) versus the tool itself.

When you get a chance, I'd like to see a label that is GREEN on BLACK - opposite of the black on green you've already done - for use as a way to identify an accessory T-LOC systainer. For instance, how about making one that says '150mm' that would go on my abrasive/accessory systainer for my RO150 and ETS150/3?
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Offline evilcat

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2014, 11:06 PM »
I would be in for an order as well

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2014, 11:23 PM »
So I did some tests today... with the results below. (sorry for the bad flash photos)

1. As you all suggested, I got rid of the bold text.

2. I tried enamel paint pens to get the contrasting color instead of pausing the print and swapping material. This makes the print process more reliable and I think it looks better, especially from angles. Examples of black/white on green and green on white. These give a permanent high gloss finish.

3. Changed the shape of the cleats and the latch. The latch is 1mm thinner and has a  smoother bevel. The cleats are now only angled on the side that grabs the systainer below. This improves print quality, as the printer was having trouble with the overhang.

4. Not visible, but did a bunch of strength tests on the cleats to find a strong infill / perimeter setting for the print. They are now 4 perimeters with 35% infill. I couldn't break it lifting my vacuum and two full systainers.

5. I'm going to set up an Etsy store as it seems the most user friendly for the buyer and seller. They take $0.20 to list + 3.5% fee + 3% credit card fee. Unfortunately, after adding these costs to the actual time/material costs I'm going to have to charge a bit more.

This is what I am thinking for pricing.
The faceplates will be $5 each.
The cleat set will be $15 as they take more material and over an hour to print the five pieces. I'll include a .pdf download to install them.


test pile


enamel


new cleat / latch design






green on white
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Offline bkharman

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2014, 11:45 PM »
Looks good Ben...

Might I suggest black plates with green letters. I think the green on black with green border will look slick. I also have some other suggestions which I will PM you about tomorrow or Tuesday.

Cheers. Bryan.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2014, 07:07 AM »
I believe you pricing is quite reasonable.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2014, 09:18 AM »
@mike_aa

I agree, the base clips would be useful too. I'll look into printing something similar.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2014, 09:26 AM »
Hi Ben ,

Brilliant idea , and it could be the start of a business for you.

Have you considered printing up something similar for the classic systainer , there must be hundred of thousands out there. Something on the lines of a rectangular plate that could be permanently fixed to the body of the systainer.  The old systainer does not even have provision for the labels  like on the Tloc and can be devils to identify in a van .

John

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2014, 03:16 PM »
Not an issue from my side with the price. Looking forward to it. Malte

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2014, 10:29 PM »
The Etsy store is up.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/123one

I'll try and make / ship orders as quickly as I can, and keep everyone up to date on their order status.

You can save a few dollars ordering in quantity, as I don't have to pay the listing fee per item that way.

Shipping will be USPS Priority Mail in the Flat Rate Boxes to keep it simple.

Thanks Everyone!

« Last Edit: October 13, 2014, 11:40 PM by Ben_ »
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Offline blk65brd

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2014, 11:59 PM »
Etsy Store worked great, order placed, thanks for the efforts on this!










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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #50 on: October 14, 2014, 12:16 AM »
The store says "Up to 3 initials can be included" but I assume that you can actually do 'RO150' and the like?

Or am I wrong in assuming that?
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #51 on: October 14, 2014, 12:22 AM »
Wayne- you must have clicked on the "monogrammed" option. Try the "custom" option.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #52 on: October 14, 2014, 12:22 AM »
The store says "Up to 3 initials can be included" but I assume that you can actually do 'RO150' and the like?

Or am I wrong in assuming that?

Wayne,

There are options for initials, or for tools......  And various quantities.....

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #53 on: October 14, 2014, 12:55 AM »
I wasn't sure of the best way to organize the listings, so I decided to separate the monogram from the model numbers. The text for the monogram is bigger than the text for the model numbers, so I limited it to 3 characters.

They are all the same price though, so for example if you want 8 model numbers and 2 monograms (or vice versa) it would be no problem to order "10x Custom Model No. Faceplates" and make a note during checkout.

Also, if you want something that is not listed, I can try to print it but if the text gets too small the infill on the lettering can get sloppy.
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« Reply #54 on: October 14, 2014, 05:07 AM »
Very nice Ben!  [big grin]
Are you using a dual extruder or are you gluing the letters after printing?

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #55 on: October 14, 2014, 01:13 PM »
Awesome job, Ben - you just need to add the UK to the list of available countries...  [poke]

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #56 on: October 14, 2014, 03:00 PM »
Ben,

I'm interested in the latches and cleats.  But I'm curious...  What kind of 3D printer are you using?

Thanks,

Dan.

p.s.  For me the latches are a necessity.  I'm having difficulty finding the right systainer (the stacks on the floor are two deep).  :)   Here is a pic of my "Euro Shop":

« Last Edit: October 14, 2014, 03:11 PM by Dan Clark »

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #57 on: October 14, 2014, 04:23 PM »
Have you tried "printing" dominoes?  I would think festool green dominoes in all the various sizes with a 5mm hole a few mm from each end would be wonderful dry assembly aids. The 5 mm holes would allow for inserting a tool to help removal in case things get tight and the smooth plastic should help prevent that problem anyway. No reason they couldn't be hollow if the printer will allow for that too. I've actually been thinking of taking that idea to a prototype plastic outfit down the road to try out, but you're more than welcome to the idea if it'll work with the printer.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #58 on: October 14, 2014, 04:33 PM »
I just ordered 21 custom T-Loc plates - and one set of the locking plates - will help me find stuff!

Thanks for setting this up!  BTW, agree on the domino idea!

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« Reply #59 on: October 14, 2014, 05:11 PM »
The Etsy store is up.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/123one

I'll try and make / ship orders as quickly as I can, and keep everyone up to date on their order status.

You can save a few dollars ordering in quantity, as I don't have to pay the listing fee per item that way.

Shipping will be USPS Priority Mail in the Flat Rate Boxes to keep it simple.

Thanks Everyone!



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