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Offline Baremeg55

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #90 on: October 23, 2014, 02:09 PM »
Ben,

Received mine yesterday, they look great.  I installed a couple without glue or tape, I think they will definitely stay in place just using them in the workshop.  If going mobile, I would prolly just add a small dab of hot glue for insurance.

One thing for certain, the systainer labels clearly stand out and you only have to look once to immediately spot the tool you need!

Thanks, great idea!

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #91 on: October 25, 2014, 11:29 PM »
Very cool! And you stole my cleat idea! Have one designed in 3D (a little different) but haven't got around to printing it.

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« Reply #92 on: October 25, 2014, 11:55 PM »
BTW Ben, you should be patenting (copyrighting?) this. Festool should buy the rights and start shipping Systainers with this already in place. Mucho better than the labels that won't stick.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #93 on: October 28, 2014, 07:36 PM »
All USA orders have been shipped.

Added USPS Priority mail shipping to the UK and Germany.

Thanks everyone!
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #94 on: October 28, 2014, 08:55 PM »
Off topic but not...can you print a snap-in insert for the track saws blade screw access hole? Right now I just put tape over it. It helps with dust extraction with it covered.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #95 on: October 28, 2014, 11:03 PM »
Off topic but not...can you print a snap-in insert for the track saws blade screw access hole? Right now I just put tape over it. It helps with dust extraction with it covered.

Great idea! I'd love one for the TS75. Can it be clear?
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #96 on: October 28, 2014, 11:27 PM »
Another badly needed TS75 accessory is a splinter guard that is designed specifically for the TS75 instead of just using the TS55 splinter guard that doesn't work when cutting thinner stock.

I think all the TS75 owners would be interested.

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« Reply #97 on: October 28, 2014, 11:44 PM »
Another badly needed TS75 accessory is a splinter guard that is designed specifically for the TS75 instead of just using the TS55 splinter guard that doesn't work when cutting thinner stock.

I think all the TS75 owners would be interested.

Agreed. And everyone with a TS75 would need several - a natural repeat market!
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« Reply #98 on: October 29, 2014, 01:51 AM »
Off topic but not...can you print a snap-in insert for the track saws blade screw access hole? Right now I just put tape over it. It helps with dust extraction with it covered.

Great idea! I'd love one for the TS75. Can it be clear?

Ill take one of these !!
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #99 on: October 29, 2014, 01:52 AM »
Another badly needed TS75 accessory is a splinter guard that is designed specifically for the TS75 instead of just using the TS55 splinter guard that doesn't work when cutting thinner stock.

I think all the TS75 owners would be interested.

Agreed. And everyone with a TS75 would need several - a natural repeat market!

And I'll take a bunch of these,  sign me up! !
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #100 on: October 29, 2014, 08:42 AM »
Are the access holes in the TS 55, TS 55 REQ, and the TS 75 different sizes?

I know of a TS 55 REQ I can borrow to measure / test this weekend.


Is the splinter guard just not tall enough to reach on the TS 75? Is there a photo / thread detailing the issue with thin material?

I'm really not sure how the 3d prints would behave during that first sacrificial cut? Can test on the TS 55.
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« Reply #101 on: October 29, 2014, 10:10 AM »
Take a look at half-inch-shy's modification to the standard splinterguard to make it work properly on the TS-75.  He adds a piece of wood to the bottom of the Festool splinter guard to extend it so it works properly on the TS-75.  If the base section of the TS-55 splinter guard was simply extended, I believe that would work.

http://www.halfinchshy.com/2010/05/ts-75-splinter-guard-enhancement.html

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #102 on: October 29, 2014, 12:34 PM »
Ben,

Thanks for adding UK shipping! Will be ordering some soon.

Just to confirm, in the last picture on the Etsy page you show all the tool names - are these the only ones? I need some for NAINA tools, such as the BHC18, OFK500, etc., plus a few non-Festool ones. I presume you can easily do these too?
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #103 on: October 29, 2014, 01:28 PM »
BEN:

Please print in ABS, my PLA lock prints melted in my truck this summer. (I  have black tonnou cover) PLA locks deformed and stopped working properly.
ABS is a way to go, melting/deforming temperature is way higher....

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #104 on: October 29, 2014, 02:34 PM »
Are the access holes in the TS 55, TS 55 REQ, and the TS 75 different sizes?

I know of a TS 55 REQ I can borrow to measure / test this weekend.


Is the splinter guard just not tall enough to reach on the TS 75? Is there a photo / thread detailing the issue with thin material?

I'm really not sure how the 3d prints would behave during that first sacrificial cut? Can test on the TS 55.

I don't have either if the other saws, but I can measure the TS75 for you if that will kelp?
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #105 on: October 29, 2014, 03:52 PM »
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I'll look into the splinter guard.

Thebesciak What PLA locks are you referring to?  I believe PLA will start to deform around 120F but so will ABS and many other plastics. Sunglasses for instance.

Pressed into the T-Loc or mounted to a board the faceplates and cleats should be fine, but it is a good point to make. The issue with ABS when printing is that it deforms as it is printed with the edges curling up from the start + the fumes.


overanalyze: Here is a quick / rough prototype I printed today, is this the kind of thing you were thinking?





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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #106 on: October 29, 2014, 05:05 PM »
Ben

The cover is slick, but do you know if it is the same size for the TS55 EQ? 
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #107 on: October 29, 2014, 06:08 PM »
Would it be possible to put the image below on the T Loc insert?



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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #108 on: October 29, 2014, 06:12 PM »
The track saw hole cover prototype looks great.  Is there a way to make it snap in?  Maybe the raised rectangle on the inside of the cover could be made with a lip that would allow it to snap in, kind of like a Tupperware lid?

Without a way to fit tightly, it might not seal and might even curl away from the hole after much use.
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« Reply #109 on: October 29, 2014, 06:34 PM »
Unfortunately, I don't think the design of the cover would work on the TS-75 because the splinter guard fits on the TS-75 differently than it does on the TS-55.  On the TS-75 the metal of the saw blade cover slides into the slot of the splinter guard so some of the plastic of the splinter guard is on the inside of the cover and some is on the outside. 

The fit of the splinter guard is quite tight against the metal of the saw cover so there isn't room for the plastic of your access hole cover to fit in between.  If there was a jog in the mounting arm of the cover so it fit on the outside of the splinter guard; that might work.

Here is a picture of the Festool splinter guard (with half-inch-shy's modification) mounted to my saw.  Hopefully all this will make sense when you see how the splinter guard mounts to the TS-75 in the picture.

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« Reply #110 on: October 29, 2014, 07:07 PM »
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I'll look into the splinter guard.

Thebesciak What PLA locks are you referring to?  I believe PLA will start to deform around 120F but so will ABS and many other plastics. Sunglasses for instance.

Pressed into the T-Loc or mounted to a board the faceplates and cleats should be fine, but it is a good point to make. The issue with ABS when printing is that it deforms as it is printed with the edges curling up from the start + the fumes.


overanalyze: Here is a quick / rough prototype I printed today, is this the kind of thing you were thinking?




Ben I think that's great! I wasn't thinking of using the knob to hold it but I think thats a good idea. Is it pretty ridgid? Does it fit snug in the opening? I am not sure if the size is the same on all saws...I have the older 55 not the req. I can take some measurements.

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« Reply #111 on: October 29, 2014, 07:22 PM »
The nice thing about using the knob is that you can just loosen the bolt slightly and swing it up when needed...  Looking good Ben!  I'm new to the FOG, so is there a link to your Etsy page somewhere back in this thread?  Thanks, and keep up the good work
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« Reply #112 on: October 29, 2014, 08:08 PM »
The nice thing about using the knob is that you can just loosen the bolt slightly and swing it up when needed...  Looking good Ben!  I'm new to the FOG, so is there a link to your Etsy page somewhere back in this thread?  Thanks, and keep up the good work
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« Reply #113 on: October 29, 2014, 08:18 PM »
  so is there a link to your Etsy page somewhere back in this thread? 

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« Reply #114 on: October 29, 2014, 10:19 PM »
Thanks much!
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« Reply #115 on: October 30, 2014, 08:57 AM »
A green dust cover for the TS55R should look much better.
You already have the material in the house for the T-Loc covers.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #116 on: October 30, 2014, 01:43 PM »
jbasen: Thanks for the photo / info. I'll see if I can find some saws around austin to measure / test for both a splinter guard and a access hole cover.

Roadkilled: Yes, but I'd have to make a vector of it. PM me and we can figure something out.

neeleman: green for sure. just had the red in the printer at the time.


It might be a bit until I can get these prototyped / printed. Also still working on some latches to attach systainers to drawers etc.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #117 on: October 30, 2014, 01:53 PM »
Thanks for your efforts Ben.  Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #118 on: November 09, 2014, 05:08 PM »
Just a quick update.

I still haven't had a chance to perfect the dust cover. The version I posted works ok, but in order for it to work with the existing hardware on the TS 55 REQ it has to be super thin, which allows it to bend.

I also tried a two part design that used a trapped nut and bolt to sandwich the saw. It works, but I worry about hardware being that close to the blade, if anything were to break.

I looked into the splinter guard for the TS 75. It would just end up being too expensive, as it is such a (relatively) large / solid print.


Sorry this has been so slow to progress, I definitely want to keep working on it. I've just been very busy lately with other commitments and all of the printer's time goes to fulfilling orders.


More updates soon. Thanks again everyone, and thanks to everyone who has emailed photos. It's cool to see the cleats / latches installed.


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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #119 on: November 09, 2014, 05:41 PM »
Just a word of caution when applying your new T-Loc handle inserts if you bought some.  As can be seen from the photos, my inserts are missing one letter each for the PS-420 Accessories and my OF-1010 router. Both letters came off when pressing the inserts into the T-Loc handles.  It would probably be best to simply glue the inserts in place after removing the small tabs that make them fit/seat in place. If you leave the tabs in place, try not to put any pressure on the insert that would cause the insert to bend from pressure across the area that contains the letters/numbers, and do not apply any force against the letters/numbers. 

I need to order some more inserts for some new tools coming in, and will remove the tabs and hot glue in place going forward.