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Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« on: October 09, 2014, 07:32 PM »
Hi all,

I was making a gift for a festool fan, and he seemed to think people would be interested in this as a product. It's a 3D printed replacement "faceplate" for the T-Loc Systainers. I was thinking monograms could be cool / useful, but really anything could be printed in relief. Some example photos are below... I could print them for under $5.

If anyone is interested, let me know.





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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2014, 07:47 PM »
Slick Ben!

I could think of a lot of things but a slightly raised 3d render of the tool would be slick. Same thing as the 125 in the label, but raised would be cool. Personally I would go overboard but I am sure others would chime in.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2014, 07:52 PM »
Cool. Could you also use multiple colors? E.g. Text in black, background green?

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2014, 09:01 PM »
I can think of a bunch of them that I'd like, but how many letters could you realistically put on there

I'm sure you could do:
RO150
TS75

But what about:
ETS150/3
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Compact Cleaning Kit
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150mm/6" Abrasives ( could be shortened to 150 Abrasives)



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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2014, 09:23 PM »
@ bkharman - Low relief 3d models of the tools would be really slick. It would be doable, but would take quite a bit of modeling if they were actual relief. Maybe a raised illustration of the tool would be cool?

@ Slartibartfass - Multiple colors are definitely a possibility.

@ Wow - I did a few with 10 characters across in 10mm tall Arial Black raised 1.5mm. It looked good, but was getting cramped. There is no reason you couldn't fit blocks of text, but the legibility might suffer. Will do some tests this weekend.
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2014, 10:28 PM »
I must have lost one of the covers, or it never came with the original systainer.  Funny thing is that I thought this was simply a new Festool design of the latch.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2014, 10:53 PM »
First off,  [welcome]

Second, what a freaking cool idea!!!   I'm gonna need some thinking time but I'm sure we will be in touch

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2014, 03:27 AM »
Great idea, never even realised the tloc latch was two part. Now I can't wait for my M3D mini to be delivered.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2014, 04:33 AM »
Ben:

You got me so excited about your product that I forgot to say [welcome] to the FOG!

So welcome! Looking forward to seeing lots of cool stuff from you...
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2014, 06:53 AM »
Has to rate as one of the best, first posts.... great idea
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2014, 07:41 AM »
Also forgot.  [welcome] and  [thanks] for a great idea...

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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2014, 08:04 AM »
Maybe as a first collective order we should replace the front on the first aid systainer with a raised white cross on a red background? Could we bring the cost down if we group order?

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2014, 06:07 PM »
thanks everyone for the welcome.

Below are some images of today's experiments, including some of the suggestions for the t-loc prints. The other images are of a five piece print that replicates the cleats / feet and latch on a t-loc systainer. This could be used for all kinds of mods... I attached them to a piece of OSB that was lying around to make a work surface. It doesn't move in any direction and I could pick up the vac with the board.

black on green with tool names:




white on red for first aid kit. (need to do this one again with a thicker layer of white as it looks pink here)




3d printed cleats / feet and latch. to lock anything to a t-loc systainer.






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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2014, 06:10 PM »
The cleats and latch are really cool.  You could easily package and sell those with a PDF printout for easy placement and alignment.

Great work!

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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2014, 06:25 PM »
Time to set up an online store and start production....

It's the second industrial revolution going on right now....

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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2014, 06:29 PM »
Is there a market for this stuff? What seems like a fair price?

The problem with 3D printing is that it is great for unique items, but the per item cost stays the same no matter how many you make.
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2014, 06:50 PM »
Is there a market for this stuff? What seems like a fair price?

The problem with 3D printing is that it is great for unique items, but the per item cost stays the same no matter how many you make.

Ben, the calculation of cost per unit is no different than in a traditional production environment.

Obviously you have raw materials to buy which based on volume could change.

The printers usage is depreciated based on usage.

Your time and cost of running business is overhead...

I guess what is different is the fact that as soon as you can digitize it becomes difficult to protect intellectual property rights.....

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2014, 07:12 PM »
Ben - Those are just too cool! I have all my tools in T Locs, now it looks like  I have to get a bunch of handle inserts!

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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2014, 07:24 PM »
Welcome to FOG!

AWESOME IDEA!!  When can we start are orders?


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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2014, 08:12 PM »
Cool thread. I can see a good market for this kind of stuff. Especially if you can make custom orders, I know lots of people here are dying to customise their systainers to their personal preference.

I like the look of the red/white-cross one on the green latch.

Would it also be possible to make the letters flush to the surface instead of embossed?

By the way, don't forget to add the embossed arrow like the offical ones have.

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2014, 08:48 PM »
Very cool, maybe light grey letters would look a little more subtle? Can anyone in the UK produce these please?

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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2014, 08:53 PM »
I think the letters would be easier to read from a distance if they were a little thinner.

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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2014, 08:25 AM »
I agree, letters should be a little thinner to improve contrast.

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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2014, 09:28 AM »
I am definitely interested in some of the green/black ones. Let me know when you have figured out a price?
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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2014, 09:45 AM »
Thanks for the feedback. I'll keep tweaking the design. thinner letters,  etc. The examples above are Helvetica Bold, I'll try Helvetica and Helvetica Light.

I'm trying to make a list of the possible tool names for the t-loc plates, but am a bit confused about the proper spacing. For example, is it C15 or C 15, TS75EQ TS75 EQ or TS 75 EQ?



Hopefully I can get an online shop up this week to start taking orders. Those who have already messaged will be first to ship.

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« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2014, 09:47 AM »
I am very interested in the cleat/latch kit. Please let me know when these are available for sale

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« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2014, 10:02 AM »
I would be interested in the cleat latch and the T-Loc Handles as well. They look great.

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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2014, 10:03 AM »
I'm trying to make a list of the possible tool names for the t-loc plates, but am a bit confused about the proper spacing. For example, is it C15 or C 15, TS75EQ TS75 EQ or TS 75 EQ?

Festool generally uses spacing in between. Check the Festool USA site to see how they do it and you can't go wrong.

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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2014, 10:34 AM »
Hi Ben,

Are you able to make cleats and some sort of sliding fittings like what is found on the Festool/Tanos Sys Cart?  The picture shows how the cleats would be placed in the front and the sliding fittings on the sides.  The one shown is of the Tanos version, but I believe it is the same as Festool.


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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2014, 10:39 AM »
Awesome idea...any way to get the green to exactly match the official Festool green?  (Not sure if the resin can be mixed like paint.)  If not, I'd be more inclined to go with a gray color that closely matches the systainer, or a contrasting color.

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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2014, 10:52 AM »
Great idea!

Does your T-Loc handle center faceplate have Tanos-style latching tabs on the back?  Or are they flat and affixed with double-backed tape or adhesive?

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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2014, 12:05 PM »
Great idea!

Does your T-Loc handle center faceplate have Tanos-style latching tabs on the back?  Or are they flat and affixed with double-backed tape or adhesive?

They'll be flat on the back - you can see that in one of the pictures. I don't think it'd be possible to make them on this type of 3D printer with the tabs on the back too.
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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2014, 12:16 PM »
Oh man awesome ideas! I see this keeping you busy for a while. Thanks for sharing! I will be thinking of what to have you print.

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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2014, 01:31 PM »
There a lot of possibilities, very nice idea
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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2014, 03:33 PM »
Is it possible to add "ACC" in smaller font under the standard letters for labeling the accessory systainers?

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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2014, 03:52 PM »
Instead of adding ACC under the tool name for accessory systainers...make them a different color with the tool name on it.

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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2014, 07:44 PM »
@ Scott - They are flat on the back, but I added little half ellipses at 4 points to make a tight pressure fit. I would probably still recommend some adhesive or double sided tape to make them permanent, but they hold really well on their own.




Thanks for the feedback/suggestions. I'll have time tomorrow to do some tests.
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« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2014, 03:24 AM »
Awesome!  .... oh and  [welcome]

Please count me in to order the T-Loc Handles!  (I have too many systainers stacked, and hard to find what I'm looking for from a distance. Your solution IS a solution!!) [tongue]

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« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2014, 05:23 AM »
Ben - Welcome

I would be interested in handles and latches as well, please add me to your list.

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« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2014, 10:19 PM »
Count me in too. I really like the cleats so that a stack can become a work surface.

I definitely need the first aid kit ones. I was thinking about ordering a couple systainers direct from Germany to get red and white ones for first aid kits.

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I also use them for various computer related tools and parts. All just begging for custom knob inserts.

Awesome idea!!!

(BTW, I don't know what your store plans are, but selling on ebay could be done without a store and would only take a few minutes to create a listing. We could just put the color and label information in the purchase notes.)

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« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2014, 10:44 PM »
Ben:

I'm trying to decide what I could do to identify accessories (like abrasives?) versus the tool itself.

When you get a chance, I'd like to see a label that is GREEN on BLACK - opposite of the black on green you've already done - for use as a way to identify an accessory T-LOC systainer. For instance, how about making one that says '150mm' that would go on my abrasive/accessory systainer for my RO150 and ETS150/3?
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« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2014, 11:06 PM »
I would be in for an order as well

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« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2014, 11:23 PM »
So I did some tests today... with the results below. (sorry for the bad flash photos)

1. As you all suggested, I got rid of the bold text.

2. I tried enamel paint pens to get the contrasting color instead of pausing the print and swapping material. This makes the print process more reliable and I think it looks better, especially from angles. Examples of black/white on green and green on white. These give a permanent high gloss finish.

3. Changed the shape of the cleats and the latch. The latch is 1mm thinner and has a  smoother bevel. The cleats are now only angled on the side that grabs the systainer below. This improves print quality, as the printer was having trouble with the overhang.

4. Not visible, but did a bunch of strength tests on the cleats to find a strong infill / perimeter setting for the print. They are now 4 perimeters with 35% infill. I couldn't break it lifting my vacuum and two full systainers.

5. I'm going to set up an Etsy store as it seems the most user friendly for the buyer and seller. They take $0.20 to list + 3.5% fee + 3% credit card fee. Unfortunately, after adding these costs to the actual time/material costs I'm going to have to charge a bit more.

This is what I am thinking for pricing.
The faceplates will be $5 each.
The cleat set will be $15 as they take more material and over an hour to print the five pieces. I'll include a .pdf download to install them.


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enamel


new cleat / latch design






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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2014, 11:45 PM »
Looks good Ben...

Might I suggest black plates with green letters. I think the green on black with green border will look slick. I also have some other suggestions which I will PM you about tomorrow or Tuesday.

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« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2014, 07:07 AM »
I believe you pricing is quite reasonable.

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« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2014, 09:18 AM »
@mike_aa

I agree, the base clips would be useful too. I'll look into printing something similar.
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« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2014, 09:26 AM »
Hi Ben ,

Brilliant idea , and it could be the start of a business for you.

Have you considered printing up something similar for the classic systainer , there must be hundred of thousands out there. Something on the lines of a rectangular plate that could be permanently fixed to the body of the systainer.  The old systainer does not even have provision for the labels  like on the Tloc and can be devils to identify in a van .

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« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2014, 03:16 PM »
Not an issue from my side with the price. Looking forward to it. Malte

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« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2014, 10:29 PM »
The Etsy store is up.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/123one

I'll try and make / ship orders as quickly as I can, and keep everyone up to date on their order status.

You can save a few dollars ordering in quantity, as I don't have to pay the listing fee per item that way.

Shipping will be USPS Priority Mail in the Flat Rate Boxes to keep it simple.

Thanks Everyone!

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« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2014, 11:59 PM »
Etsy Store worked great, order placed, thanks for the efforts on this!










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« Reply #50 on: October 14, 2014, 12:16 AM »
The store says "Up to 3 initials can be included" but I assume that you can actually do 'RO150' and the like?

Or am I wrong in assuming that?
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« Reply #51 on: October 14, 2014, 12:22 AM »
Wayne- you must have clicked on the "monogrammed" option. Try the "custom" option.
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« Reply #52 on: October 14, 2014, 12:22 AM »
The store says "Up to 3 initials can be included" but I assume that you can actually do 'RO150' and the like?

Or am I wrong in assuming that?

Wayne,

There are options for initials, or for tools......  And various quantities.....

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« Reply #53 on: October 14, 2014, 12:55 AM »
I wasn't sure of the best way to organize the listings, so I decided to separate the monogram from the model numbers. The text for the monogram is bigger than the text for the model numbers, so I limited it to 3 characters.

They are all the same price though, so for example if you want 8 model numbers and 2 monograms (or vice versa) it would be no problem to order "10x Custom Model No. Faceplates" and make a note during checkout.

Also, if you want something that is not listed, I can try to print it but if the text gets too small the infill on the lettering can get sloppy.
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« Reply #54 on: October 14, 2014, 05:07 AM »
Very nice Ben!  [big grin]
Are you using a dual extruder or are you gluing the letters after printing?

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« Reply #55 on: October 14, 2014, 01:13 PM »
Awesome job, Ben - you just need to add the UK to the list of available countries...  [poke]

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #56 on: October 14, 2014, 03:00 PM »
Ben,

I'm interested in the latches and cleats.  But I'm curious...  What kind of 3D printer are you using?

Thanks,

Dan.

p.s.  For me the latches are a necessity.  I'm having difficulty finding the right systainer (the stacks on the floor are two deep).  :)   Here is a pic of my "Euro Shop":

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #57 on: October 14, 2014, 04:23 PM »
Have you tried "printing" dominoes?  I would think festool green dominoes in all the various sizes with a 5mm hole a few mm from each end would be wonderful dry assembly aids. The 5 mm holes would allow for inserting a tool to help removal in case things get tight and the smooth plastic should help prevent that problem anyway. No reason they couldn't be hollow if the printer will allow for that too. I've actually been thinking of taking that idea to a prototype plastic outfit down the road to try out, but you're more than welcome to the idea if it'll work with the printer.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #58 on: October 14, 2014, 04:33 PM »
I just ordered 21 custom T-Loc plates - and one set of the locking plates - will help me find stuff!

Thanks for setting this up!  BTW, agree on the domino idea!

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #59 on: October 14, 2014, 05:11 PM »
The Etsy store is up.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/123one

I'll try and make / ship orders as quickly as I can, and keep everyone up to date on their order status.

You can save a few dollars ordering in quantity, as I don't have to pay the listing fee per item that way.

Shipping will be USPS Priority Mail in the Flat Rate Boxes to keep it simple.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #60 on: October 14, 2014, 05:53 PM »
The cleats are brilliant! Opens up a number of possibilities for cutting/clamping surfaces on the go.
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« Reply #61 on: October 14, 2014, 05:57 PM »
Awesome job, Ben - you just need to add the UK to the list of available countries...  [poke]

 [big grin]

Agree with that, i would order some in a few weeks for  the tools i know i will be getting  [big grin]
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #62 on: October 14, 2014, 06:03 PM »
Ben:

I'm trying to decide what I could do to identify accessories (like abrasives?) versus the tool itself.

When you get a chance, I'd like to see a label that is GREEN on BLACK - opposite of the black on green you've already done - for use as a way to identify an accessory T-LOC systainer. For instance, how about making one that says '150mm' that would go on my abrasive/accessory systainer for my RO150 and ETS150/3?

Ben

Great idea, but I have to agree with Wow, I think the green on black would be slick and be a great way for distinguishing between the tools and accessories.  For example, I would like green with black writing for domino (DF500) and then for my 2 systainers black with green indicating Sipo and Beech.  Just my  [2cents]
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #63 on: October 14, 2014, 06:05 PM »
Ben:

I'm trying to decide what I could do to identify accessories (like abrasives?) versus the tool itself.

When you get a chance, I'd like to see a label that is GREEN on BLACK - opposite of the black on green you've already done - for use as a way to identify an accessory T-LOC systainer. For instance, how about making one that says '150mm' that would go on my abrasive/accessory systainer for my RO150 and ETS150/3?

Ben

Great idea, but I have to agree with Wow, I think the green on black would be slick and be a great way for distinguishing between the tools and accessories.  For example, I would like green with black writing for domino (DF500) and then for my 2 systainers black with green indicating Sipo and Beech.  Just my  [2cents]
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #64 on: October 14, 2014, 07:11 PM »


@Dan
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:74830
This is the printer I am using.  (It is my own version of the RepRap Air, and is open source if you want to download the plans) It has a single extruder, so I am printing the faceplates in green, and then using a chisel tip paint pen to add the contrasting color in enamel. There is also a festool hose adaptor I made a while ago available here: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:268760

@WOW
I'll definitely test out the green on black.  I have more black, green and red filament on the way.

@jonny round boy
Once I get the shipping down for the USA and Canada, I'll add the rest of the world.

@ jbair
The printed dominos sound really useful / possible. I'll get my hands on some, and try it out.


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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #65 on: October 14, 2014, 09:28 PM »
Ben,

Interesting looking beast.  It's great to see quality output on a (apparently) simple machine like.   

I'm going to wait until I seen the black on green and then order.

Thanks,

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #66 on: October 15, 2014, 09:42 AM »
Images of green text on black to denote accessories. Great idea!


I'll add them to the Etsy store tonight.




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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #67 on: October 15, 2014, 10:56 AM »
Hi Ben,

   Welcome to the forum!  [smile]

   Killer first topic and idea!  [thumbs up]

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #68 on: October 15, 2014, 12:38 PM »
Ben

The black with green writing looks sharp.  That will definitely be a great way to distinguish between the tool and accessories.

Correct me if I am wrong, but when we go to your store, in the notes to seller, that is where we list the tools/lables we want?  Since they are all custom, can we put something specific, like I have a systainer for my MFT which keeps my clamps, dogs and other things, so can I put MFT on one and when my order comes up, it will be printed.

Thanks
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #69 on: October 15, 2014, 01:30 PM »
Love the green letters with the black background. I thought I had been the first to suggest it but Wayne was ahead of me by a few posts!!  ;)

Great job Ben. Will let things die down a bit for you and will get my order in soon.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #70 on: October 15, 2014, 02:44 PM »
Not to sidetrack this thread but I have been following this with interest, what a great example of the power of desktop design/manufacturing along with market research/ marketing (posting on the FOG with photos) and sales/fulfillment (Etsy). From initial post, thru customer feedback, to taking/shipping orders in a few days.

I will risk stating that 5 (perhaps 3??) years ago this would not have been possible, or would have required a lot more up front effort and cost. My own little hobby/venture followed a similar trajectory but much more slowly. Congrats Ben on a great idea and execution; hope you have lots of success.

Back on topic - would it make any sense to inset the text +/- 1mm instead of raising it, and using the paint fill the inset voids? Should save a little on materials cost/printing time and might prevent the paint from wearing as easily?

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #71 on: October 15, 2014, 08:53 PM »
Richard, thank you for the kind words.

Regarding the inset... I tried it in an initial batch, but was unable to get the printed text to look crisp. A lot of this has to do with the way the printer builds perimeters / infill. Unfortunately, everything wound up looking like bubble letters.



They Etsy shop has been updated to include the green on black faceplates.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #72 on: October 15, 2014, 11:20 PM »
Would you please add the first aid white cross on red to the store?

Also, is is possible to get other background colors? I would like to order KTM in black on an orange background.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #73 on: October 16, 2014, 09:53 AM »
Julie,

I have 1kg of red filament on the way. The  first aid cross on red should be available in about a week.

I don't have orange filament at the moment, but maybe I can add more colors as this project evolves. I could print white versions to be spray painted.
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« Reply #74 on: October 16, 2014, 10:18 AM »
@mike_aa

I agree, the base clips would be useful too. I'll look into printing something similar.

Hi Ben,

I know you've been really busy, but any luck yet with these?

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #75 on: October 17, 2014, 02:46 AM »
Ben this is such an awesome idea!!!
Made these last night... Printed with ABS on my Replicator 2. Will try to use Acetone vapors and smooth the surface out a bit. Find it to rough at the moment. Keep up the fine work!


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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #76 on: October 17, 2014, 09:32 AM »
nice!

When I get home tonight, I can send you the file I made with all of the model #s.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #77 on: October 17, 2014, 09:58 AM »
Ben this is such an awesome idea!!!
Made these last night... Printed with ABS on my Replicator 2. Will try to use Acetone vapors and smooth the surface out a bit. Find it to rough at the moment. Keep up the fine work!



Very nice...your filament looks to be very close to original Festool green (maybe it's the lighting).

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« Reply #78 on: October 17, 2014, 10:06 AM »
Yes Ben please do that... Let´s share our stuff and I´ll send mine!  [smile]

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #79 on: October 18, 2014, 10:17 AM »
Massemannen, below is an .stl file with the all of the model #s I have printed so far. There is also a blank faceplate to be customized. Units are millimeters.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/78156941/123one/t_loc_variations.stl


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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #80 on: October 18, 2014, 11:38 AM »
The black plates with green text really look great, wish i had more systainers so i could do a bulk order.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #81 on: October 18, 2014, 01:37 PM »
The black plates with green text really look great, wish i had more systainers so i could do a bulk order.

Well, there is a very easy solution for that problem!  There are a number of dealers on the FOG that can put a bunch of new tools, with systainers, in your hands! [eek]

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #82 on: October 19, 2014, 11:05 PM »
A quick update...

-Some of the orders have already shipped, everyone else will ship tomorrow. If you haven't already, you will receive tracking info from Etsy.

-The First Aid faceplates are available

-Now accepting Paypal





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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #83 on: October 20, 2014, 12:09 AM »
Just ordered mine!!  This is a great idea!

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #84 on: October 20, 2014, 05:53 AM »
Thanks Ben for the CAD models... I tried printing one but it was way to small, will upload comparison photos when I get back to the office. Are u using some kind off scale factor when you print?
I print ABS with 3 shells, 40% infill and 0.25 layer height...

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« Reply #85 on: October 20, 2014, 08:55 AM »
Thanks Ben for the CAD models... I tried printing one but it was way to small, will upload comparison photos when I get back to the office. Are u using some kind off scale factor when you print?
I print ABS with 3 shells, 40% infill and 0.25 layer height...

Strange... I'm not using a scale factor, and the print settings I'm using are similar to yours only I'm running it through Slic3r / Repetier Host not Makerware. I have access to a Replicator 2, so I'll try and do a test this week.

You can see in the photos / videos coming off my RepRap the faceplates are a very tight fit.


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« Reply #86 on: October 22, 2014, 01:09 PM »
Check out Youtube for 3 videos Ben recently posted on production and installation of the new handle plates.  Quite interesting and helpful.
This link will get you to one of the videos




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« Reply #87 on: October 22, 2014, 01:57 PM »
I'm thinking tape or glue on the ones I ordered.  I would not trust a pressure fit to remain in place long term!

This is a really inventive idea for both the identity inserts as well as the cleats.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #88 on: October 22, 2014, 05:20 PM »
Neil / Ward

Double sided tape, low/high temp hot glue should all keep things in place. I would't recommend foam tape as the thickness will prevent the faceplate from fitting flush.

If you use high temp glue or really high strength tape, be careful if you decide to remove the faceplate. Prying them off by hand can delaminate the 3d print. I've been using a putty knife to get them off, working the sharp edge back and forth to help cut through the glue.
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« Reply #89 on: October 22, 2014, 07:54 PM »
Ben

I used hot glue with a very small drop - maybe 1/8" in the middle of the T-loc latch handle and it seems to hold well.

They look great.  Will upload some photos in a bit!  Great work, fast shipping and a cool idea!

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« Reply #90 on: October 23, 2014, 02:09 PM »
Ben,

Received mine yesterday, they look great.  I installed a couple without glue or tape, I think they will definitely stay in place just using them in the workshop.  If going mobile, I would prolly just add a small dab of hot glue for insurance.

One thing for certain, the systainer labels clearly stand out and you only have to look once to immediately spot the tool you need!

Thanks, great idea!

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« Reply #91 on: October 25, 2014, 11:29 PM »
Very cool! And you stole my cleat idea! Have one designed in 3D (a little different) but haven't got around to printing it.

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« Reply #92 on: October 25, 2014, 11:55 PM »
BTW Ben, you should be patenting (copyrighting?) this. Festool should buy the rights and start shipping Systainers with this already in place. Mucho better than the labels that won't stick.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #93 on: October 28, 2014, 07:36 PM »
All USA orders have been shipped.

Added USPS Priority mail shipping to the UK and Germany.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #94 on: October 28, 2014, 08:55 PM »
Off topic but not...can you print a snap-in insert for the track saws blade screw access hole? Right now I just put tape over it. It helps with dust extraction with it covered.

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« Reply #95 on: October 28, 2014, 11:03 PM »
Off topic but not...can you print a snap-in insert for the track saws blade screw access hole? Right now I just put tape over it. It helps with dust extraction with it covered.

Great idea! I'd love one for the TS75. Can it be clear?
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« Reply #96 on: October 28, 2014, 11:27 PM »
Another badly needed TS75 accessory is a splinter guard that is designed specifically for the TS75 instead of just using the TS55 splinter guard that doesn't work when cutting thinner stock.

I think all the TS75 owners would be interested.

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« Reply #97 on: October 28, 2014, 11:44 PM »
Another badly needed TS75 accessory is a splinter guard that is designed specifically for the TS75 instead of just using the TS55 splinter guard that doesn't work when cutting thinner stock.

I think all the TS75 owners would be interested.

Agreed. And everyone with a TS75 would need several - a natural repeat market!
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« Reply #98 on: October 29, 2014, 01:51 AM »
Off topic but not...can you print a snap-in insert for the track saws blade screw access hole? Right now I just put tape over it. It helps with dust extraction with it covered.

Great idea! I'd love one for the TS75. Can it be clear?

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« Reply #99 on: October 29, 2014, 01:52 AM »
Another badly needed TS75 accessory is a splinter guard that is designed specifically for the TS75 instead of just using the TS55 splinter guard that doesn't work when cutting thinner stock.

I think all the TS75 owners would be interested.

Agreed. And everyone with a TS75 would need several - a natural repeat market!

And I'll take a bunch of these,  sign me up! !
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #100 on: October 29, 2014, 08:42 AM »
Are the access holes in the TS 55, TS 55 REQ, and the TS 75 different sizes?

I know of a TS 55 REQ I can borrow to measure / test this weekend.


Is the splinter guard just not tall enough to reach on the TS 75? Is there a photo / thread detailing the issue with thin material?

I'm really not sure how the 3d prints would behave during that first sacrificial cut? Can test on the TS 55.
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« Reply #101 on: October 29, 2014, 10:10 AM »
Take a look at half-inch-shy's modification to the standard splinterguard to make it work properly on the TS-75.  He adds a piece of wood to the bottom of the Festool splinter guard to extend it so it works properly on the TS-75.  If the base section of the TS-55 splinter guard was simply extended, I believe that would work.

http://www.halfinchshy.com/2010/05/ts-75-splinter-guard-enhancement.html

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« Reply #102 on: October 29, 2014, 12:34 PM »
Ben,

Thanks for adding UK shipping! Will be ordering some soon.

Just to confirm, in the last picture on the Etsy page you show all the tool names - are these the only ones? I need some for NAINA tools, such as the BHC18, OFK500, etc., plus a few non-Festool ones. I presume you can easily do these too?
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« Reply #103 on: October 29, 2014, 01:28 PM »
BEN:

Please print in ABS, my PLA lock prints melted in my truck this summer. (I  have black tonnou cover) PLA locks deformed and stopped working properly.
ABS is a way to go, melting/deforming temperature is way higher....

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« Reply #104 on: October 29, 2014, 02:34 PM »
Are the access holes in the TS 55, TS 55 REQ, and the TS 75 different sizes?

I know of a TS 55 REQ I can borrow to measure / test this weekend.


Is the splinter guard just not tall enough to reach on the TS 75? Is there a photo / thread detailing the issue with thin material?

I'm really not sure how the 3d prints would behave during that first sacrificial cut? Can test on the TS 55.

I don't have either if the other saws, but I can measure the TS75 for you if that will kelp?
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #105 on: October 29, 2014, 03:52 PM »
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I'll look into the splinter guard.

Thebesciak What PLA locks are you referring to?  I believe PLA will start to deform around 120F but so will ABS and many other plastics. Sunglasses for instance.

Pressed into the T-Loc or mounted to a board the faceplates and cleats should be fine, but it is a good point to make. The issue with ABS when printing is that it deforms as it is printed with the edges curling up from the start + the fumes.


overanalyze: Here is a quick / rough prototype I printed today, is this the kind of thing you were thinking?





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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #106 on: October 29, 2014, 05:05 PM »
Ben

The cover is slick, but do you know if it is the same size for the TS55 EQ? 
Bryan

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #107 on: October 29, 2014, 06:08 PM »
Would it be possible to put the image below on the T Loc insert?



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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #108 on: October 29, 2014, 06:12 PM »
The track saw hole cover prototype looks great.  Is there a way to make it snap in?  Maybe the raised rectangle on the inside of the cover could be made with a lip that would allow it to snap in, kind of like a Tupperware lid?

Without a way to fit tightly, it might not seal and might even curl away from the hole after much use.
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« Reply #109 on: October 29, 2014, 06:34 PM »
Unfortunately, I don't think the design of the cover would work on the TS-75 because the splinter guard fits on the TS-75 differently than it does on the TS-55.  On the TS-75 the metal of the saw blade cover slides into the slot of the splinter guard so some of the plastic of the splinter guard is on the inside of the cover and some is on the outside. 

The fit of the splinter guard is quite tight against the metal of the saw cover so there isn't room for the plastic of your access hole cover to fit in between.  If there was a jog in the mounting arm of the cover so it fit on the outside of the splinter guard; that might work.

Here is a picture of the Festool splinter guard (with half-inch-shy's modification) mounted to my saw.  Hopefully all this will make sense when you see how the splinter guard mounts to the TS-75 in the picture.

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« Reply #110 on: October 29, 2014, 07:07 PM »
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I'll look into the splinter guard.

Thebesciak What PLA locks are you referring to?  I believe PLA will start to deform around 120F but so will ABS and many other plastics. Sunglasses for instance.

Pressed into the T-Loc or mounted to a board the faceplates and cleats should be fine, but it is a good point to make. The issue with ABS when printing is that it deforms as it is printed with the edges curling up from the start + the fumes.


overanalyze: Here is a quick / rough prototype I printed today, is this the kind of thing you were thinking?




Ben I think that's great! I wasn't thinking of using the knob to hold it but I think thats a good idea. Is it pretty ridgid? Does it fit snug in the opening? I am not sure if the size is the same on all saws...I have the older 55 not the req. I can take some measurements.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #111 on: October 29, 2014, 07:22 PM »
The nice thing about using the knob is that you can just loosen the bolt slightly and swing it up when needed...  Looking good Ben!  I'm new to the FOG, so is there a link to your Etsy page somewhere back in this thread?  Thanks, and keep up the good work
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« Reply #112 on: October 29, 2014, 08:08 PM »
The nice thing about using the knob is that you can just loosen the bolt slightly and swing it up when needed...  Looking good Ben!  I'm new to the FOG, so is there a link to your Etsy page somewhere back in this thread?  Thanks, and keep up the good work
Chris
Very good point! Ben this one should sell for ya too. [emoji2]

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« Reply #113 on: October 29, 2014, 08:18 PM »
  so is there a link to your Etsy page somewhere back in this thread? 

https://www.etsy.com/shop/123one

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« Reply #114 on: October 29, 2014, 10:19 PM »
Thanks much!
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #115 on: October 30, 2014, 08:57 AM »
A green dust cover for the TS55R should look much better.
You already have the material in the house for the T-Loc covers.
And please also add The Netherlands to your 123One web-site.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #116 on: October 30, 2014, 01:43 PM »
jbasen: Thanks for the photo / info. I'll see if I can find some saws around austin to measure / test for both a splinter guard and a access hole cover.

Roadkilled: Yes, but I'd have to make a vector of it. PM me and we can figure something out.

neeleman: green for sure. just had the red in the printer at the time.


It might be a bit until I can get these prototyped / printed. Also still working on some latches to attach systainers to drawers etc.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #117 on: October 30, 2014, 01:53 PM »
Thanks for your efforts Ben.  Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #118 on: November 09, 2014, 05:08 PM »
Just a quick update.

I still haven't had a chance to perfect the dust cover. The version I posted works ok, but in order for it to work with the existing hardware on the TS 55 REQ it has to be super thin, which allows it to bend.

I also tried a two part design that used a trapped nut and bolt to sandwich the saw. It works, but I worry about hardware being that close to the blade, if anything were to break.

I looked into the splinter guard for the TS 75. It would just end up being too expensive, as it is such a (relatively) large / solid print.


Sorry this has been so slow to progress, I definitely want to keep working on it. I've just been very busy lately with other commitments and all of the printer's time goes to fulfilling orders.


More updates soon. Thanks again everyone, and thanks to everyone who has emailed photos. It's cool to see the cleats / latches installed.


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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #119 on: November 09, 2014, 05:41 PM »
Just a word of caution when applying your new T-Loc handle inserts if you bought some.  As can be seen from the photos, my inserts are missing one letter each for the PS-420 Accessories and my OF-1010 router. Both letters came off when pressing the inserts into the T-Loc handles.  It would probably be best to simply glue the inserts in place after removing the small tabs that make them fit/seat in place. If you leave the tabs in place, try not to put any pressure on the insert that would cause the insert to bend from pressure across the area that contains the letters/numbers, and do not apply any force against the letters/numbers. 

I need to order some more inserts for some new tools coming in, and will remove the tabs and hot glue in place going forward. 

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #120 on: November 09, 2014, 06:06 PM »
@ Baremeg55: Oh no! Send me a message, and I'll send you some replacements.

The faceplates are printed layer by layer, and as such they can delaminate if bent too much (especially with some the longer tool names / smaller letters). This isn't a problem once they are in the t-loc as it acts as support / prevents bending.

This video shows how to install them, and should prevent any loss of letters. Seating 3 of the tabs and then applying pressure to the 4th should do the trick.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #121 on: November 09, 2014, 10:51 PM »
Ben,

I take full responsibility for my faceplate letters delaminating.  As I said, I will order some replacements soon, as well as a few new ones.  Thank you for the generous offer though. 

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #122 on: November 26, 2014, 02:55 PM »
Have you tried "printing" dominoes?  I would think festool green dominoes in all the various sizes with a 5mm hole a few mm from each end would be wonderful dry assembly aids. The 5 mm holes would allow for inserting a tool to help removal in case things get tight and the smooth plastic should help prevent that problem anyway. No reason they couldn't be hollow if the printer will allow for that too. I've actually been thinking of taking that idea to a prototype plastic outfit down the road to try out, but you're more than welcome to the idea if it'll work with the printer.
Jim
So Ben, have you had a chance to persue printing dominoes yet?  Subsequently thought about printing quas dogs or parf dogs. Lots of possibilities, not nearly enough time!
Good Luck, Jim.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #123 on: November 28, 2014, 08:59 AM »
These inserts are awesome but the cleats are fantastic! Thanks for sharing and making them available.

thought about printing quas dogs or parf dogs. Lots of possibilities, not nearly enough time!

The only problem with making the bench dogs will be the lamination of 3D printed objects and consistency with the outer dimension. You could reduce the de-lamination issue by changing the printed orientation but the consistency of OD will still be an issue.  3D printing is good and with calibration it can be pretty spot on but the parf dogs (that's what I have) are machined and all match exactly. So you can use them to align. If you did 3D print a set of bench dogs, I would leave them a bit oversized and then use a lathe to make sure they are reduced to the exact same size. Maybe I'm over thinking this but the precision of the parf dogs was part of the reason I wanted to use them. Another option would be to order HDPE or other hard plastic rod stock and use a lathe to make them, cheaper and easier to machine than aluminum versions. If we discuss this further I think another thread would be a good idea.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #124 on: December 11, 2014, 01:29 PM »
My apologies if this has already been mentioned.

Ben, what about offering the entire set shown in your picture (which I have reattached)?

Somehow I found  your cleats and First Aid T-Loc and ordered them, but rather than buying a few of the tool specific T-Locs here and there, I'd be more inclined to buy the lot.
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« Reply #125 on: December 11, 2014, 02:09 PM »
My apologies if this has already been mentioned.

Ben, what about offering the entire set shown in your picture (which I have reattached)?

Somehow I found  your cleats and First Aid T-Loc and ordered them, but rather than buying a few of the tool specific T-Locs here and there, I'd be more inclined to buy the lot.
Why would people want to purchase T-Locs for products not owned or with no intention to purchase?  Ben has been very accommodating and will work with you to supply whatever combo (or all) you want?

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« Reply #126 on: December 11, 2014, 04:18 PM »
Why would people want to purchase T-Locs for products not owned or with no intention to purchase?  Ben has been very accommodating and will work with you to supply whatever combo (or all) you want?

Because of the 40-some T-Loc faces shown in the example, I could use 20-some of them immediately and a few of the others in future, and I would be looking for a bulk price.

Besides, Festool and Systainers are systemic by design.  Why not get the set while they're available?  My guess is that there are more than a few members here that could put a fair chunk of that set to work now.  ; )
« Last Edit: December 11, 2014, 04:28 PM by plgard »

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #127 on: December 11, 2014, 04:34 PM »
The problem with 3D printing is that it isn't a bulk way of producing.
Which means that selling bulk won't decrease the cost of creating the goods :) .

And Ben, thanks for the first aid latchplate! It works perfectly.
I glued it with a few drops 10sec glue and it's stuck pretty firm :P .

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #128 on: December 11, 2014, 09:14 PM »
Hey everyone, apologies for not updating this project for a while.

Regarding large orders, bleiblei is right, producing them in bulk doesn't decrease the cost / time it takes to make them. I can only discount the larger sets, as I save money on listing / credit card transaction fees. Doing the custom order thing also allows for accommodation for non-festool items or accessories.

Thanks again everybody.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #129 on: January 16, 2015, 12:55 AM »
Received my cleats/latches yesterday along with a sample T-Loc handle insert yesterday, they look great Ben! Will be placing an order very soon for more of the T-Loc inserts.  [cool]

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #130 on: March 05, 2015, 07:57 PM »
Hello Ben. I'm wondering if u can customize them. Black face plate with red letters? Or some colours like that? Pls let me know.   Let say black plate with MKH in red

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #131 on: March 05, 2015, 08:06 PM »
Hey everyone, apologies for not updating this project for a while.

Regarding large orders, bleiblei is right, producing them in bulk doesn't decrease the cost / time it takes to make them. I can only discount the larger sets, as I save money on listing / credit card transaction fees. Doing the custom order thing also allows for accommodation for non-festool items or accessories.

Thanks again everybody.


They work well but you do need to use glue - double stick tape worked really well for me (the woodworking kind that is thin)

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #132 on: April 20, 2015, 09:45 AM »
Hi all,

**SPRING CLEANING SALE**

I've posted cleats and faceplates with visual imperfections at 50% off or more.

Functionally everything is fine, they just have discoloration, gaps, blobs, or paint splatter that can probably be repaired / cleaned.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/123one


Cheers,

Ben
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #133 on: April 20, 2015, 11:19 PM »
Can you do grey with black letters?  I was thinking of color combinations to separate my Systainers. Like black background / green type for sanders,  grey background black type for routers,  green background/black type for drills,  red background /white type for drilling bits or saws.
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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #134 on: April 21, 2015, 12:08 AM »
TheTrooper,

Grey is possible, I just don't have any grey filament at this time. Would white with black or green type work for you?

Currently, I have green, black, red, white, and tan filament.
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« Reply #135 on: April 21, 2015, 09:57 PM »
I'll whip up some combos this week. Thanks for the feedback
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« Reply #136 on: May 02, 2015, 12:32 AM »
I received my faceplates from BEN_ last week and sorted through them and attached most to the T Locs tonight. They are very nice! I did about 30 seconds of sanding on each one, and I attached them with a few dabs of silicone. Ben was great to work with, and made me some regular versions from his list (OF2200, RO90 etc..), as well as custom faceplates such as 'DOMINOS' 'SURFIX' '5" PAPER'. I think these will make things easier to find instead of having to look at the small pictures on each Systainer. Great stuff, thanks Ben.




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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #137 on: October 23, 2015, 05:07 AM »
Is Ben still offering these for sale ?
I must say that I am new to Etsy and only see the cleats.
I do see lists of items sold but not what is available !!
Sure it must be me
 

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #138 on: October 23, 2015, 01:00 PM »
Is Ben still offering these for sale ?
I must say that I am new to Etsy and only see the cleats.
I do see lists of items sold but not what is available !!
Sure it must be me

I spoke to Ben a couple months ago and he said he was shutting down for a little while to prepare for a cross country move. He said he would reopen when he can.

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #139 on: October 25, 2015, 05:46 PM »
Hey guys,
     Sent Ben an e-mail a few weeks ago and he responded that he is is no longer doing the custom t-locs.   

CB

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Re: Customized T-Loc Handles (3D Printed)
« Reply #140 on: November 15, 2016, 12:05 PM »
A big thank you to everyone who contributed during the design process and supported the Etsy shop by purchasing faceplates or cleats.

I've decided to close the shop and make all design files available for free download. Print and installation instructions can be found on the Thingiverse pages below.

If you don't have a printer or access to one, I'll be selling cleats for $10 a set until I run out of lime green filament. (2 spools remain). http://123one.etsy.com


Cleats:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1890372

Model # Faceplates:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1893148

Blank Faceplate:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1893158

First Aid Faceplate:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1893180


Cheers,
Ben
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