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Offline Naildrivingman

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Recommendations for this Sys
« on: June 27, 2017, 06:35 AM »
Do any fellow FOGgers own this Sys?

http://www.toolnut.com/festool/festool-systainers/festool-systainers/festool-497658-systainer-sys-hwz-t-loc.html

I am interested in this, but none of my brick and mortar vendors have it in stock and I would have to commit to buying it sight unseen. I am interested in your thoughts regarding overall storage capacity/variety of tools.

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Chris
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Re: Recommendations for this Sys
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2017, 07:14 AM »
My recollection here is that the tote linked to is too fitted to euro tools and accessories and that to maximize storage and usage for your situation it might be a better choice to design your own insert for a SYStainer size of your own choosing.

If you do a google search for " FESTOOL tool tote systainer" you will find a lot of images for inspiration.

I personally would not order one and then try to make it work.  If a dealer had one on display (which II understand is not your case) I would pack up the tools I wanted it to hold and take them to the store and test the fit before purchasing.

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Offline Naildrivingman

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Re: Recommendations for this Sys
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2017, 08:26 AM »
Thanks Peter. I have a sys 5 and will see what I can design to fit my needs
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Re: Recommendations for this Sys
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2017, 08:29 AM »
Hi!

It's one of the few Festool/Systainer items I wouldn't buy. I pondered about it for quite some time but came to the conclusion it wouldn't work with my selection of hand-tools that I like to keep in one place and use regularly. For me it's way to "specialized"/ "standardized" on very common, standard hand tools.

Like Peter already suggested, I would take a close look at all available pictures of this insert being stocked and used and then decide if it works for you and your tools.

I stick to my Snap-On tote, to accompany my Festool/Systainers :) It's the perfect solution for me.





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Offline Woodwork Wizard

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Re: Recommendations for this Sys
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2017, 09:22 AM »
The insert that Festool sells for hand tools would be great if the tools it was designed for are the exact same tools you have.
Make your own insert using a SYS-5 for the extra height and a SYS-MFT lid. I now have 3 of these, one for hand tools, one for all the extractor accessories and a third for clamps.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-and-tanos-systainers/sys-5-70-toolbox/

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-and-tanos-systainers/mobile-kit/
« Last Edit: June 27, 2017, 09:50 AM by Woodwork Wizard »

Offline antss

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Re: Recommendations for this Sys
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2017, 10:10 AM »
It's too heavily geared towards things like screwdrivers and chisels for my tastes.

I agree , make you own if you like this style.

Offline ggc

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Re: Recommendations for this Sys
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2017, 04:59 PM »
I've got the Tanos equivalent, which is a lot more flexible with regards to which tools will fit.  Open box in the middle, clips around the outside.  I added a socket rail to mine as well.

http://produktprogramm.tanos.de/index.asp?idart=348&idcat=80

If you're going to make your own, there's plenty of designs out there to use as starting point.
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Offline Naildrivingman

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Re: Recommendations for this Sys
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2017, 10:14 PM »






Hi six-point

Is the Sys on the bottom of your dolly a four way power  source?  If so, where did you get it?  That I want more than an organizer for hand tools.
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Re: Recommendations for this Sys
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2017, 06:27 AM »
Hi,

@Naildrivingman

Yes it is, but sadly it's one of those Products that is not available in North America.

-> https://www.festool.de/produkte/systainer,-sortainer-und-systainer-port/systainer/200231---sys-ph#√úbersicht

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Offline neilc

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Re: Recommendations for this Sys
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2017, 09:52 PM »
I had one of the Sys-HWZ units and ended up selling it. Not very space efficient and too many compromises to find / use my existing tools in it.  I ended up going with the Sys Storage box -

https://www.festoolusa.com/products/systainer,-sortainer-and-systainer-port/systainer/499901---sys-sb

Been very happy with it as a better way for me to store my tools.

Offline Naildrivingman

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Re: Recommendations for this Sys
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2017, 12:30 PM »
I had one of the Sys-HWZ units and ended up selling it. Not very space efficient and too many compromises to find / use my existing tools in it.  I ended up going with the Sys Storage box -

https://www.festoolusa.com/products/systainer,-sortainer-and-systainer-port/systainer/499901---sys-sb

Been very happy with it as a better way for me to store my tools.

Thanks Neil.

I like that box as well, but I wish that it were available in a deeper model. I will attempt to find a brick and mortar store with one in stock. I think I'm going to end up with a Sys 5 and homemade inserts.
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Re: Recommendations for this Sys
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2017, 02:08 PM »
I might be wrong but I'm under the impression that insert is for the German cabinetmaker apprenticeship* toolkit.

So its the basics for the course.

To me there seems a heck of a lot of screwdrivers held in special holes which don't really mind clattering against each other and could be packed top to tail like sardines in a can.
Chisels can stand touching each other if they have the end covers on and that takes up a lot less space also.

I keep looking at these fancy boxes with a special place for every tool but in the real world I suspect all the wasted space would get on my nerves.
Bit like the foam filled assassin style cases that have about three tools in them and a couple of inches between them.
I'd need a bigger workvan to carry all the boxes about.



*My terminology may be off on that one.