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Offline Chris161190

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Systainer compressor
« on: December 08, 2015, 05:11 PM »
Hi all

Seen a couple of attempts of squeezing a compressor into a systainer, the only thing that bugged me is that I wanted to do it without having to open the lid etc so I set about trying to squeeze a Makita mac610 into a systainer 4
Requirements were pretty simple must fit in and be useable with the lid closed and must have no protruding parts

Finished it today and am very pleased with the result






Chris

Offline GarryMartin

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2015, 05:28 PM »
[welcome]

Hi Chris and welcome to the FOG! Awesome first post.

I think this post is going to get lots of interest, so if I was you, I'd start taking and posting more pictures as soon as possible and maybe think about a quick write-up of what was required by way of modifying the Makita compressor to move all the essential connections and dial etc. to the outside of the Systainer.

[popcorn]


Offline Wuffles

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2015, 05:31 PM »
[welcome]

Hi Chris and welcome to the FOG! Awesome first post.

I think this post is going to get lots of interest, so if I was you, I'd start taking and posting more pictures as soon as possible and maybe think about a quick write-up of what was required by way of modifying the Makita compressor to move all the essential connections and dial etc. to the outside of the Systainer.

[popcorn]

I agree with Garry, just humour him if he offers to do a video about it.

 [popcorn]

Edit. Makita make compressors?!
Tool list updated to reflect knowledge :: hammer, screwdriver, one pozi bit, and another bigger hammer.

Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2015, 05:46 PM »
I'll do a full write up tomorrow for now here's another photo of inside it's based around a birch ply chassis spray lacquered
The Makita compressor mac610 is a quiet 6 litre compressor available here in the uk not sure about USA
Chris

Offline Wuffles

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2015, 05:50 PM »
I'll do a full write up tomorrow for now here's another photo of inside it's based around a birch ply chassis spray lacquered
The Makita compressor mac610 is a quiet 6 litre compressor available here in the uk not sure about USA
Chris

Just looking at that photo makes me wheeze at my lack of talent. Cheers for that, just before bed too - expecting the same old talking down from the Wife now.
Tool list updated to reflect knowledge :: hammer, screwdriver, one pozi bit, and another bigger hammer.

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 07:30 PM »
Holy crap !! That is cool, great job, great post and welcome to the fog. I would also like to see more
BTW wuffles makita makes great compressors !! Most quiet compressor on the job I've had one for many years...
Billy

Offline Kev

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 08:20 PM »
I've been keeping my eye out for a compact compressor suitable for "conversion".

My thinking has been to try and fit one in a Sys5 and get a small retractable hose in the top.

My plans haven progressed beyond the back of a napkin [sad]

Congrats on a very tidy effort [big grin] [big grin]

Offline jjowen

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2015, 08:35 PM »
Very nice!

What do you use to do the cut-outs?
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Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2015, 04:23 AM »
Right so bare with me on this one unfortunately ive not photos of the compleated assembly before it was finally put into the systainer and air lines are now connected up and electrics have been soldered so cannot remove easily to photo but you all should be able to get the general idea.

Step one was obviously disassembly of the makita mac610 compressor this is a very quiet very light unit which has a 6 liter tank and having looked at other compressors i wouldnt be surprised if makita had the compressor under lisence from else where as inside there was no sight of anything makita....

ill post pictures up after the post becuase im typing on a computer and theyre on my phone...

If anyone has seen the ready made black and yellow systainer compressor this is what my design is based around with most of the components being the same in the makita as they are in the ready made systainer comp.

once id got a rough lay out for everything i made a simple ply frame to hold everything in place. tank at the bottom compressor unit up top which comes pre tapped which i fixed it down on the ply with.

gauge was simply inserted (TIGHT FIT) into the systainer i used a router for all cut outs which works very well and neatly through the plastic and will not melt it providing you got against the grain if you like.

Air fitting and control knob are mounted into a tiny alu baking tray found on ebay from chine for around 99p posted again this is recessed in with a router and stuck in place with pro bond silicone.

festo push fittings were used through out for ease of final assembly (kind of! was harder than i thought)

Finally some air vents were made with a router along the label inserts and a three pin kettle type lead was mounted in the front

all components are from the makita compressor with some extra push fittings and some lengths of house bought from ebay it was relatively easy.

i did have to recess the compressor crank wheel in slightly to lower the unit down to clear the lid there is now around 15mm between the lid and top of the unit.

the makita compressor bearing failed which is why i took it apart in the first place im waiting for that from makita once that arrives its 100% done

P.s. sorry for any spelling errors its still early and ive not had a coffee yet .

Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2015, 04:27 AM »
Ready made compressor unit

Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2015, 04:28 AM »
Basic configure of mine, the bleed also exits the base of the systainer

Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2015, 04:30 AM »
you can see the control unit under the cut out which is the original Makita part

Offline chewy

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2015, 04:59 AM »
Wowsers, that's a good job ! Looks proper professional.

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2015, 08:43 PM »
Bravo! I've seen the ready made systainer compressors and have always been mildly interested in the idea of having one, now that I've seen your build I'm definitely going to build my own . Thanks for elaborating on your original post and also the inspiration
Billy

Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2015, 03:43 AM »
Your welcome.
There were a few things I didn't like about the Schneider one firstly obviously the cost but secondly and perhaps more importantly was the yellow metal plate on the front actually protrudes from the systainer boundaries somewhat. The point of these boxes is to allow best stacking and storage and I don't want yellow paint getting rubbed onto my other systainers during transport.

Forgot to mention that the weight of this all in is around the same as a ts55 in its box so not too heavy for lugging round and takes around 80 seconds to fill from empty noise levels is around the 70db mark I believe but don't quote me on that one

The most difficult part is connection everything up for final fitment
Even with push fittings space is tight inside at best

Chris
« Last Edit: December 13, 2015, 06:58 AM by Chris161190 »

Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2015, 03:46 AM »
Another pic

Offline DB10

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2015, 07:46 PM »
Looks like a well thought out project and nicely executed.....Hats off.

Offline speed

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2015, 04:35 PM »
looks alot better than my senco shoved in a sys 4, top work
has made the change. now 100%  T-loc :)

Offline mwildt

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2015, 09:34 PM »
Looks nice! Bummer though if the noise is as you stated. I like them on the more quite side. A rolair jc10 would be a good candidate, but not sure if it would fit, don't have one. Should be a lot quieter.

Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2015, 06:59 AM »
Have just looked online Noise level is 71db

Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2015, 07:02 AM »
Also made a systainer hand tool box to go with the suit, I'm going to buy one more sys4 for caulking glued sealants tapes etc and a sort sine for screws and fastening to have four dedicated site boxes that I'll put into a systainer trolley....

Based on another sys4 lacquered birch ply with nearly every hand tool needed (for me)

Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
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Re: Systainer compressor
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Re: Systainer compressor
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Re: Systainer compressor
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Re: Systainer compressor
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Offline Billy stray

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2015, 04:12 PM »
Another nice job, you're full of posts what's next lol .?
Billy

Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2015, 04:25 PM »
Errrmmmmm one for my spindle moulder tooling.... Simply a systainer 1 which came full of a foam insert routed out for snug fit of blocks
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Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2015, 04:32 PM »
And my shelves of systainers

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2015, 06:07 PM »
Lol...I was kidding  but ok cool , I personally have become a little preoccupied with Systainers lately, I have 2 empties awaiting little systainer projects and about 10 more rolling around in my head....
Billy

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2015, 06:13 PM »
You should post the new stuff separately from your compressor post in fact there's a systainer tool insert thread going just a little further down the page started by Ollie I believe,  everyone's showing pics of there's over there. Yours is pretty noteworthy and different from the others you should check it out and load the pic there
Just a suggestion
Billy

Offline terrystouf

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2015, 10:46 PM »
Very nicely done . I just chopped up my Senco tonight and got it jammed in a sys 4  , just looking at options to run it with the lid closed , I am curious about the recessed plate you have for the air chuck/regulator where or what you made it from ? Thanks for posting ..
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Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2015, 08:05 AM »
the recessed plate is an aluminium baking tray found on ebay from china it was around 99p posted from china should be a similar cost to the states i think

cant find the link but a search for small baking tray should find it

chris

will post the hand tool systainer on the other thread

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2015, 10:25 PM »
Hey chris, where did that trim piece come from that the coupling and pressure knob is recessed into

OK got it, I had a feeling it was something like that ,very clever
« Last Edit: December 19, 2015, 10:54 AM by Billy stray »
Billy

Offline GarryMartin

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2015, 02:57 AM »
Hey chris, where did that trim piece come from that the coupling and pressure knob is recessed into

The post above has the detail - it's a aluminium baking tray.

Offline Mahomo59

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2015, 03:39 AM »
I'd love to buy one...ready made.
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Offline Billy stray

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2015, 11:18 AM »
Couldn't find the mac 610 available here in the states, the makita ac64 looks like a suitable alternative , oh wait maybe that's only available in UK and shipped here for $32.00
Or maybe I should check the dimensions of the mac 700
Big fan of their compressors trying to make it happen. .. lol
« Last Edit: December 19, 2015, 11:31 AM by Billy stray »
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Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2015, 02:28 PM »
Hmmm maybe it's not available stateside. I had a Google search of the actual part numbers of the components inside the compressor but turned up nothing, bostitch also make the same compressor identical to the Makita one

I did briefly consider making them to sell but too be honest would be more hassle that it's worth they aren't quick to make and cost of systainer and compressor would mean I'd have to sell them on for like £400+

Chris

Offline bkharman

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2015, 02:31 PM »

Hmmm maybe it's not available stateside. I had a Google search of the actual part numbers of the components inside the compressor but turned up nothing, bostitch also make the same compressor identical to the Makita one

I did briefly consider making them to sell but too be honest would be more hassle that it's worth they aren't quick to make and cost of systainer and compressor would mean I'd have to sell them on for like £400+

Chris

I am sure there would be a few folks here that would buy them at that price Chris...

You did a bang up job and I am looking to migrate my Senco 1010 to a Sys 5. Your's is by far one of the most professional looking ones thus far.

Cheers. Bryan.
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Offline joiner1970

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2015, 03:02 PM »



You did a bang up job and I am looking to migrate my Senco 1010 to a Sys 5.

Cheers. Bryan.

The best thing I ever did buying a senco and putting it in a SYS 5. I was using it this week building some bookcases in a large room. At one point I put it on my SYS roll board and you can just roll it round easily. I don't use my big noisy and heavy compressors much now.

Also getting the Bostitch pro hoze helped its so light and flexible you hardly notice it

   

Hmmm maybe it's not available stateside. I had a Google search of the actual part numbers of the components inside the compressor but turned up nothing, bostitch also make the same compressor identical to the Makita one

I did briefly consider making them to sell but too be honest would be more hassle that it's worth they aren't quick to make and cost of systainer and compressor would mean I'd have to sell them on for like £400+

Chris

I am sure there would be a few folks here that would buy them at that price Chris...

You did a bang up job and I am looking to migrate my Senco 1010 to a Sys 5. Your's is by far one of the most professional looking ones thus far.

Cheers. Bryan.

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2015, 03:03 PM »
Ready made compressor unit

Are they selling these ready made as is over there ?
The motors, that is ?
« Last Edit: December 19, 2015, 03:06 PM by Billy stray »
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Offline Chris161190

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Re: Systainer compressor
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2015, 03:36 PM »
I believe the Schneider ones are for sale already yes

Chris