Michael Garrett
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Will there ever be a systainer for the Parallel Guide Rail Set? How is it stored?
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2012, 11:49 PM » |
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Will there ever be a systainer for the Parallel Guide Rail Set? How is it stored?
I also would like an answer to your question... and would modify to say.... any protective case. The answer to your second question at this time is..... at this time very carefully  Cheers, Steve |
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2012, 12:27 AM » |
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2012, 12:59 AM » |
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My thinking is no, probably will never be a Systainer to hold the parallel guide set. It would need to be pretty long and that would really mess with the whole system aproach to Systainers. On the other hand I saw a nicely made case at a demo day recently. The fellow had it all done up in Festool colors etc. It was a multi teared deal that opened from the end. Standing up it took very little floor space. I was hoping to convince him to post it here. So if you are reading this please post it.  Sorry, I didn't get any pictures of it.  A Systainer option would be to use two or three (?) Sys - Is and cut the ends out then glue to gether to make it long enough. With various other mods to a stiffness , etc. Seth |
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2012, 02:46 AM » |
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I have the same rig as Ken, the FS/PA bag. It holds all the stuff as shown in the pic with loads of storage room and a another zippered section on the top easily holds 3 guide rails.( 2x 1400 & 1x 800) About 18 months ago there was a lot of discussion about it having been "tested" in the US and found not to be robust enough. Well I have had mine for about 18 months and it has been dragged around jobsites a lot and it is still in real good shape. Hate to say it but I think Festool marketing missed a trick on that one!! Here is the original thread on it http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tool-reviews/festool-fs-bag-(any-reviewscomments)/ |
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2012, 06:16 AM » |
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Where can I find that sweet carrying case! Rather how can anyone living in North America get one. I just looked on amazon and I couldn't find it. Can i get it shipped across the seas easily. What a shame they wont send it over here. Also I witnessed a rep giving demonstrations to my local dealer, and he said only reps and people associated with festool can get the bag, because there was fear customers might complain about the bags lack of durability. I saw it in person and that bag is a great looking product, no way it is made worse than anything else I could imagine.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2012, 06:25 AM » |
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A member or two here in North America have arranged thru friends in Europe to have some of the bags shipped over for their use. Beware that the shipping costs are a killer!
Peter
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The tools in my truck were talking the other day. The Dewalts, PC's, Boschs, Makitas were not happy. They also were in the minority. Their complaint: They felt unused and unappreciated since the Festools moved in. I guess the truth hurts.
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2012, 06:28 AM » |
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I would buy it, I know many others would too. Can festool America ship 100 of these bad boys and then sit back while they fly off the shelves? I know the answer, this is just such a tease. Maybe we can all join together here and get 50 or so of us to make a large order to save on the shipping.
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2012, 07:48 AM » |
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Jay, I purchased it from a dealer in the UK who has to remain nameless. If I remember correctly, it cost around $265 with the shipping. I don't believe they're available/made any longer, but might still be had through other members or international ebay sites. I brought the bag to a woodworking show where some of the top people at Festool were. They were impressed enough with the bag to bring some over for themselves, so what I'm getting at is you might want to make a really good friend at Festool and invite them to your birthday party.  |
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2012, 08:21 AM » |
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One of my future projects is going to make one of those out of 1/2" baltic birch with a domino,
Ill get it done one of these days.
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2012, 08:22 AM » |
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This is what I use for my set, It works great, maybe overkill
Sal
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2012, 08:27 AM » |
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Sal,
Definitely not overkill.
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2012, 11:36 AM » |
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Actually, I think it would work in a Systainer if Festool simply split the longer parts of the guides in half and made them compatible with the rail joiners.
I don't remember the exact length of the guides, but if they're less than 30", then half of them would fit into a regular sys. The joining wouldn't need to be perfectly straight as as any variance would be insignificant. They'd need something more like the LR32 joiner which ensures the spacing is perfect across the gap.
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2012, 10:38 PM » |
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That's excellent advise Ken haha. Hey Sal I really dig that idea, I have a gun case I completely forgot about collecting dust, it's a little big, but I can surely find something to take up the space. If my guides broke in the back of my messy truck I would be on the verge of tears. They're solid as heck though, doubt that would happen.
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2012, 11:18 PM » |
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I agree with Ken.... OH did I say that out loud?  ?  !!! The Gun case can also hold your long precision rulers from Woodpecker, and levels at the same time. All Festool product should come with a case /or option to buy one that will get the product to sites without harm. I work on location... no protective case...makes this product a non-starter. I want them... know I would use them.... but I won't buy them if in 10 locations they get trashed. Or I can buy them and give up a couple of weekends finding the right case and fitting them in.... Cheers, Steve |
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2012, 06:31 AM » |
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They could make the systainer taller so they fit in vertically without losing the interoperability with the rest of them...
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2012, 12:31 AM » |
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They could make the systainer taller so they fit in vertically without losing the interoperability with the rest of them...
A Classic Sys - V with a whole bunch of Systainer extensions, or Stack Systainers and cut holes through the bottoms? Seth |
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They could make the systainer taller so they fit in vertically without losing the interoperability with the rest of them...
A Classic Sys - V with a whole bunch of Systainer extensions, or Stack Systainers and cut holes through the bottoms? Seth If you were to use classic style systainers you could also use the Tanos extension frames:  Peter |
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The tools in my truck were talking the other day. The Dewalts, PC's, Boschs, Makitas were not happy. They also were in the minority. Their complaint: They felt unused and unappreciated since the Festools moved in. I guess the truth hurts.
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2012, 01:23 PM » |
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They could make the systainer taller so they fit in vertically without losing the interoperability with the rest of them...
A Classic Sys - V with a whole bunch of Systainer extensions, or Stack Systainers and cut holes through the bottoms? Seth Now you guys are being silly. How about this: You make the p. guide only 14 inches long. That will allow it to fit in a systainer. Then you make the stops part of a slider which slides on the INSIDE side of the p. guides. WIth a a scale that tells you the distance (on the side). That gives you a range of 14 to 28" for cutting, which I think is all you get with the p. guides now. To store in the systainer, you simply slide the stop all the way back into the track. What about shorter lengths? You replace the 14" slider with a shorter one (sold separately!!!!) which allows it to slide further into the track without sticking out the front. Will try to make a sketch up drawing of this. |
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2012, 01:27 PM » |
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I really like your idea of "modular" Parallel Guides. It could also solve the size limitation that some people have run into. I know a few people that have made spanners to use the extension profiles as extensions to the main profiles because they found them too short.
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2012, 01:29 PM » |
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They could make the systainer taller so they fit in vertically without losing the interoperability with the rest of them...
A Classic Sys - V with a whole bunch of Systainer extensions, or Stack Systainers and cut holes through the bottoms? Seth Now you guys are being silly. How about this: You make the p. guide only 14 inches long. That will allow it to fit in a systainer. Then you make the stops part of a slider which slides on the INSIDE side of the p. guides. WIth a a scale that tells you the distance (on the side). That gives you a range of 14 to 28" for cutting, which I think is all you get with the p. guides now. To store in the systainer, you simply slide the stop all the way back into the track. What about shorter lengths? You replace the 14" slider with a shorter one (sold separately!!!!) which allows it to slide further into the track without sticking out the front. Will try to make a sketch up drawing of this. sonds good fritter tom have you any more info on what they did |
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of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2012, 02:09 PM » |
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One guy just made a plywood spanner that he attached with screws.
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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2012, 02:49 PM » |
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Speaking of plywood. Couldn't someone easily build a case in a day with a little foam and ply onhand? Grey and green paint wouldn't hurt either  Of course, you might need to use your parallel guides while you build it...which would keep them off the floor |
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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2012, 05:10 PM » |
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This is what I use for my set, It works great, maybe overkill
Sal
Speaking of overkill I just picked this up. 60"x 10"x 6". Haven't set it up yet. Hope to store 2 1400s and a parallel set with extensions and other related items.   |
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2012, 07:08 PM » |
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Woodsgood,
Where did you get the case and what is it's original intended purpose? I like it.
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« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2012, 08:08 PM » |
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Frank my wife and I recently took a motorcycle ride up to Speculator, real nice country up there. The case is intended for .50 cal rifle air transport. Made in Texas. It is expensive but I got a nice discount because it was blemished. It has some great features. I dealt with JD, a real nice guy. http://www.americase.com/catalog/rifle-cases/at-50cal.aspxPeter |
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« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2012, 06:36 PM » |
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So it comfortably fits 2 FS 1400s, 1 55" shelf pin guide rail, the angle stop and rail for MFT 3, the parallel guides and extensions. After I fit the foam I'll post photos.
A few nice features; 1, it can stand vertically and 2, it has loops for straps, 3 a retractable support for additional boxes (so it can be used like a hand truck) and wheels.
How can I be so stoked over a friggin box?
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« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2012, 07:22 PM » |
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Awesome...Look forward to pics
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Festool Kapex KS 120EB w/ 4 Blades
Domino DF500 Set
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TS55 w/ FS1400 and FS2700 Rails
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CT33E
D36 Tradesman
Trion PS300 Jigsaw
RTS 400 EQ Orbital Sander
RO 125
125 Abrasive Systainer with , 60,80,100,120,220 Grit Festool paper
2 Systainer Carts
Festool T18+3 Kit
CXS Kit with Centrotec Wood Bits
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« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2012, 05:40 AM » |
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I made a storage box for these bits - they were getting really annoying clunking about. Just a simple finger jointed box with slide in top, made out of scrap (the finger jointing is a breeze on the Woodrat). The foam material is some 50mm polyfoam insulation board - I drew around the components and routed out freehand - worked pretty well. I suppose I could spray the box Festool grey, but I have other more important things to do (which probably means I shall do just that... :-)    Cheers |
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welcome the the fog.
nice box.
looks likea great aplication for kaizan foam.
to spend the time to do that you must love your tools (like the rest of us) any other cool ideas
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ts 55+2 1400 rails+ 1 lr32 1400 rail, domino+assortment systainer+ domiplate, ct 22 with boom arm+home made thien baffel, lr32 set, rotex 150, home made MFT,home made work center, 6 t locs for other tools, of2000 , ro 90, mft 800, trion , ls 130
wish list
of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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