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Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« on: July 10, 2018, 05:58 PM »
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Offline Dick Mahany

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2018, 06:06 PM »
Looks interesting, except for the price.  I like Tim's Benchworks MFTC design better ! [big grin]

Offline Svar

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2018, 06:08 PM »
SYS-MFT, remote vac control, add-on cyclone, and now MFTC. Initially were created by users (FOG members) and now "reinvented" by Festool.
Yeh, Festool is listening.  [big grin]

Offline Svar

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2018, 06:13 PM »
Looks interesting, except for the price.  I like Tim's Benchworks MFTC design better ! [big grin]
I like the Festool version. Looks more versatile. Sorry, Tim.  [big grin]

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2018, 10:41 PM »
If Festool was thinking they would have offered Tim a number he couldn't refuse and developed it into a product line that would have taken off. One that offers the possibilities for loads of options/add-ons and would be an excellent alternative to a MFT/3 for smaller more mobile jobs.


The chap who came up with the original Workmate (was from England I believe) licensed or sold his design (I don't know which) to B&D who took it worldwide and made them both a mint. Granted the current Workmate is a cheap copy of their better models from the 70s and 80s, but after almost 50 years they are still selling them.

I got my first Workmate (all metal, no plastic) in the early 70s, and have bought two more of the old ones off Craigslist over the past couple years when they popped up and didn't pay more than $30 for either one. Did you know the holes in the bench top are not 3/4" but 20mm and that the B&D benchstops fit snugly in the MFT/3. You can still buy (at least 2 years ago you could) replacement benchstops from B&D. I got a set of four for less than $10 + shipping. They offered options to mount a circular saw, jig saw, or router on the workmate back then and had a clamping system too. Can't say if they were any good I never tried them.
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Offline Joe Felchlin

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2018, 11:32 PM »
Bob -
I still got my old Workmate, too. [smile]
Comes in handy to mount my Tormek Sharpener onto it.
Same thing with my Northern Chain Saw Sharpener.
Like you, I’m glad that I hung onto it. [wink]
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Offline leakyroof

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2018, 07:45 AM »
Bob -
I still got my old Workmate, too. [smile]
Comes in handy to mount my Tormek Sharpener onto it.
Same thing with my Northern Chain Saw Sharpener.
Like you, I’m glad that I hung onto it. [wink]
. I have a late 80’s /very early 90’s Workmate.  Still like it enough to keep it around all these years too. Still impressed with its two work heights and the compact size once folded up for storage or transporting.

This item above from Festool looks interesting. I don’t need one, but will be curious to see if they sell here in the US if we get them.  [scratch chin]
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Offline NL-mikkla

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2018, 08:04 AM »
Looks nice and how cool is that for Tim that Festool copycats his idea

Offline Pnw painter

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2018, 09:06 AM »
Looks nice and how cool is that for Tim that Festool copycats his idea
Unless Festool bought or paid him royalties for his designs he’s probably not very happy since he sells plans for the MFTC online.


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Offline Peter Halle

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2018, 09:28 AM »
Gotta love assumptions.   [big grin]

Offline Svar

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2018, 10:50 AM »
Gotta love assumptions.   [big grin]
SYS-MFT set the precedent.

Offline NL-mikkla

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2018, 11:00 AM »
I believe the plans are all milk and cookies for Tim and more just for fun.
If you see his finished work and the serious workshop upgrades over the last year(s) I assume (here we go @Peter Halle) this is not paid by some online plans, but I could be wrong off course.
Other than that I think it's hard to claim a design like that.

No, I see it as an honour that a respected company like Festool takes your basic design in something that suits their entire line of products and identity.

Offline Svar

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2018, 11:12 AM »
Other than that I think it's hard to claim a design like that.
I agree. Besides, Festool can go right back at Tim and claim MFTC is based on MFT and Sysport.

Offline McNally Family

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2018, 01:11 PM »
I am more interested in just the table extension, which is also sold independently as a MFT/3  accessory:

https://www.festool.be/accessoires/203457---tsb1-mw-1000
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Offline Svar

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2018, 01:33 PM »
I am more interested in just the table extension, which is also sold independently as a MFT/3  accessory:
https://www.festool.be/accessoires/203457---tsb1-mw-1000
And if you buy extra leg it will convert to standalone mini MFT.

Online Gregor

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2018, 01:51 PM »
I am more interested in just the table extension, which is also sold independently as a MFT/3  accessory:
https://www.festool.be/accessoires/203457---tsb1-mw-1000
And if you buy extra leg it will convert to standalone mini MFT.
A nice idea but the second leg won't be foldable onto the bottom of the table (as it looks from the pictures).

Offline live4ever

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2018, 02:54 PM »
Too bad those MFT extensions can't clip on to the Kapex (or can they?).
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Offline Corwin

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2018, 03:42 PM »
Too bad those MFT extensions can't clip on to the Kapex (or can they?).

Why wouldn't they? The Kapex extension wings fit both, so these new MFT extensions should also.

They just won't fit onto the UG cart for transport like the wings do.   [wink]
« Last Edit: July 12, 2018, 12:47 PM by Corwin »

Offline NL-mikkla

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2018, 02:17 AM »
The more I look at it the more I like it, but that's ussually the case with Festool stuff... [crying]

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2018, 01:16 PM »
I am more interested in just the table extension, which is also sold independently as a MFT/3  accessory:

https://www.festool.be/accessoires/203457---tsb1-mw-1000

I'm in like flint on that one. 

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2018, 01:52 AM »
Dont think were gonna see it here for a while.

Offline leakyroof

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2018, 12:43 PM »
Dont think were gonna see it here for a while.
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Online Gregor

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2018, 02:01 PM »
Dont think were gonna see it here for a while.
Yea, will take some time to make an imperial version  [tongue]

Offline GarryMartin

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2018, 02:26 PM »
I'm just hoping some of the "bits" are made quickly available as spare parts...  [popcorn]

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2018, 09:29 PM »
I was under the impression somehow that Tim sold his idea to sortimo?
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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2019, 01:11 PM »
I have been using the MW1000 "rolling workshop" for a few weeks on a project now.

I am pretty pleased with it. I was not even interested at first, especially given the price.

At first I just got me the extension table to use in the workshop with the MFT3 - and it was pretty much perfect as an extension table and I use it a lot. I even toyed with the idea of getting another extension table - not the whole kit.

Then I realized the current project - and the next one - is pretty much perfect for this. I am building acoustic panels on site and go from room to room building panel walls with lots of rails that come together with the Domino. The Domino runs hot on this project! 

Now I do my stuff, pretty much all relevant tools on board, the rest tucked underneat the table in separate Systainers on a roller. Then I just fold it up and roll to the next room and "set up shop".

Though it isn't perfect, it is a better solution for me than anything else currently on the market. I might even bring out the extra extension table to the work site since a lot of the rails and stiles are around 2500mm long.

I still think it is on the expensive side and I have another rolling cart with a foldable Stanley workbench that takes more of a load on one go for some jobs but the Festool MW1000 set works great for me for most of the jobs.
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Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2019, 02:16 PM »
At first I just got me the extension table to use in the workshop with the MFT3 - and it was pretty much perfect as an extension table and I use it a lot. I even toyed with the idea of getting another extension table - not the whole kit.

I also bought the extension table to use with the MFT/3 and it is great. Works much better than a Kapex extension. Regarding its price: I bought in thru a German online shop and saved quite a bit compared to the list price. Currently the extension is connected to the offcut side op the MFT/3. On the other side I have a VL. Total table length is almost 3 meters (10 foot). Lots of flat space to fill up : )
Cheers, Bert Vanderveen

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Re: Festool announces their version of the MFTC
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2019, 03:50 PM »
It works well as an outfeed table for the TF2000 (router in CMS unit). It fits the profile but does not lock down due to the CMS profile not being the same as the MFT on the bottom edge. I haven't made a fix for it yet but since it fits the profile on the upper side a pair of clamps holds it secure to the CMS-GE unit. When I get the other extension table back from the project I have both an infeed and an outfeed table.

I made a MDF insert for my other MFT3 fitting the Forca Edgebander - the MW1000 extension table works very well as an outfeed table for that contrapment. :)

I see the MW1000 kit as a much better SYS-Roll with a worktable.

EDIT: I bought the MW1000 with parts of a bonus/credit and the extension table with a discount. I would have hesitated to buy at list price but after using it for a while I would consider it sort of / kind of worth it for my type of work.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2019, 03:54 PM by Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits »
Festool:  CS 50EB precisio set, Domino DF500, DF XL 700, OFK500 edge router, OF1010 router EHL65 planer, CTL Mini/Midi Vac, CTL 26 vac MFT800+1080 tables
DSC-AG Grinder,  RAS 115
Rotex 150, ETS EC 150/5 RTS400
Drills: T18, BHC18, CXS.
SysLite KAL II, SYS Rock.
Sys- and Sortainers galore.

Line up has been reduced with the introduction of Mafell/Metabo tools. Red Green and Blue do mix well in the shop.