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Offline Greg Powers

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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2011, 12:43 PM »
In the beginning of the third video he is setting up the Domino, where it looks like he changes the Domino width setting, to the middle setting , WITH OUT THE DOMINO being turned on. I was told in the cabinet class that changing the width setting, with the Domino OFF, is a big no-no. As it can mess up the gears and should only be done when the Domino is ON?

Other then that I wish I has seen this video a year ago when I built my DIY Sysport.
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2011, 01:20 PM »
In the beginning of the third video he is setting up the Domino, where it looks like he changes the Domino width setting, to the middle setting , WITH OUT THE DOMINO being turned on. I was told in the cabinet class that changing the width setting, with the Domino OFF, is a big no-no. As it can mess up the gears and should only be done when the Domino is ON?

Other then that I wish I has seen this video a year ago when I built my DIY Sysport.

You're right, the width should be changed with the Domino on.  However, you won't do damage as long as you don't force knob when the tool turned off.
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2011, 04:36 PM »
All very basic stuff but interesting never-the-less. did anyone notice the domino was the earlier pin type
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2011, 04:42 PM »
Thats because the mans got taste  ;D
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2011, 08:28 PM »
In No. 3 the guy changes the mortise width with the motor off.
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2011, 08:32 PM »
It's all about the gear teeth meshing without forcing them.

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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2011, 07:08 AM »
You are all right and also the manual says that you should change width while running the machine. But like Brice and Ken mentioned if you dont force the knob (sometimes !!!) you could also do it with the motor off - but it doesnt work always!!!

In such a video for the enduser I should have done it like it is in the manual not to confuse someone - next time I will do better ...  ;)

But also the professionals at Festool sometimes turn the knob (if possible) without running the machine, as you can see in this video at "Festool TV": He first turn of the motor and then change the width-knob:    http://www.festool.de/Service/tv/Ausgabe1Domino/Seiten/Domino-TV.aspx

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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2011, 09:29 AM »
Well, i quite often turn the knob when the machine is off.  If there is any resistance at all then i click it on.  Like others said, as long as you don't force it !!!
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2011, 08:37 PM »
Just got done watching all four videos Guido, great job!  I actually like the music too.

Jay

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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2011, 12:15 PM »
I have a question about the holes for Hettich Excenter fixing. Guido had that DIY jig for the two holes (10mm and 20mm) which he uses with two routers.



I am looking for the easiest way (except buying the 200 EUR Hettich Drill-Jig) to drill those two holes and was thinking if the MFS might be helpfull for this task.

My initial idea was to use a similar jig for the 10mm hole with a drill and forstner bit and the OF1010 with side stop, but when I saw the MFS 400 today I thought it might be usefull for this and other projects and even be more accurate since those Excenter fixings are not forgiving like the Euro Hinge.

Any idea how to improve the drilling process
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2011, 01:22 PM »
Any idea how to improve the drilling process

I think Guido's methodology is the best hands down. You get the right depth, the holes are perfectly centered and the proper depth and if you are using Festool routers, perfectly clean.
I use these fasteners (with a Hafele jig and drill) and they can be finicky.
The 10mm hole must be drilled precisely (vertically and horizontally) or when you install the connector it will pull the 20mm section of the connector forward which results in the connector not sitting flush with the surface of the substrate weakening the joint.
It is easier and faster to use a rafix-SE (or similar Hettich or Blum) type fitting. It's only one 20mm hole, it holds as well and I think the only risk is in the Rafix fitting turning in the 20mm hole (if bored too wide) during installation, which would make it difficult to line up the pin.

Hope this helps.
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2011, 01:22 PM »
Hi I think the easiest and cheapest away to compete the task is the way it was done in the video.this was not a diy jig but a user made jig you could make the same thing using a piece of phenolic if you wanted something more attractive

I do not own the mfs 400 but i see there is some sort of guide you can attach to the rails you would need two of them and you would still need two machines.
and i'm not sure if you could get the hole centres close enough together.

so why not just use a .50 cent piece of ply or mdf for the jig that way you can use it over and over.
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2011, 09:41 AM »
When the last two parts of the video are on air, there will be next a version with the fully video (about 33 min - without breaks). I will ask festool that we make this version with an english voice over. I think its better than subtitels - you should concentrate on the tools not on reading  ;)

Guido

Guido,  outside the article, could you share the overall dimensions of one of the boxes (LxHxW)?  Would lie to build a set this weekend.

Thanks, in advance

Mike

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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2011, 01:42 PM »
Mike, no problem, please visit my Website "hobbywood.de" and click "kontakt" and "email senden" to give me your email-adress and I will help you.

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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2011, 09:15 AM »
Guido:

Is the article/ plan (dimensions) already available? I couldn't find a new Holzidee, the last one is from June 2010.
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2011, 11:40 AM »
Guido,

Your elegant solution to this universal storage problem is very useful because it can easily be scaled to fit one 's requirements of available space, or systainer (or other container) dimensions, or material sizes that are available, etc. The video flows well and shows the sequence and some details.
How did you position the hole for the threaded steel dowels that connect the bottoms and tops to be 9.5mm (assuming 19mm thick material) from the panel ends? - template? jig? LR32?
What do some other members use?
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2011, 01:19 PM »
 [welcome] to the fog.
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2011, 03:33 PM »
I think that if I were ever to go to Europe, I would hit the Festool store and get stuff that you cannot get here and ship it over.  I love that table saw where the saw moves and the wood is stationary.  And that clamp for corners...

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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2011, 03:31 AM »
Here's the "Holzidee" (pdf) download including plan and dimensions from Festool Germany (it's metric and in German):

http://www.festool.de/Aktionen/Festool-fuer-Heimwerker/Holzidee-Heimwerken/Seiten/Holzidee-Magazin-Ausgaben.aspx

click on Download Holzidee 11, it starts at page 46.
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2011, 06:17 AM »
Here's the "Holzidee" (pdf) download including plan and dimensions from Festool Germany (it's metric and in German):

http://www.festool.de/Aktionen/Festool-fuer-Heimwerker/Holzidee-Heimwerken/Seiten/Holzidee-Magazin-Ausgaben.aspx

click on Download Holzidee 11, it starts at page 46.


Yes they are well worth reading through.. lots of pictures and plans for load of ideas, pretty easy to follow, also some good jig ideas for CMS etc, plus so good explanations on topics like finishing
here are some screenshots from the PDFs to give you all a taster, sysports, workshop storage plus lots more!









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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #50 on: July 31, 2011, 10:00 PM »
That large clamp cart is rockin'...  I would love to build something like that.  I only with the sheet goods were not as expensive and better quality.  But that excites me... I may need to leave the forums for a moment.  [scared]

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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #51 on: July 31, 2011, 10:09 PM »
One more thing.  I wanted to give a shout out to Guido.  He has been very helpful at patient with the euro 32 system noob (me).

As I was shooting Guido messages as the different phases occur, this time I thought I would see what the group thinks.  

This didn't occur to me as I learned to construct face frame cabs, the hinge placement is not supremely critical in the sense where the hinge attached to the frame.  Now with the euro style you must be able to figure out where to bore the hole in the door as it relates to the hole series inside the cabinet.  

Guido in the video uses some sort of plastic piece that snaps into the case holes and the door is then slid under the other side and aligned.  A pencil mark is transferred from the jig and locates the hinge cup in the door.

Does anyone know where I can find such a inexpensive piece of plastic??   ???

Thanks to everyone and especially you Guido.  [thanks]

Mike
« Last Edit: July 31, 2011, 10:10 PM by FestoolMike »

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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2011, 06:40 PM »
The piece of plastic is the Hettich MultiBlue location marking template.
You can find it on German ebay.

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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2011, 06:57 PM »
Does anyone have a yearly account with Adobe for converting PDF to Word documents online? I know there are a few FOG'ers that speak German but I know that I do not.  Nor do I know the binary language of moisture evaporators , but I would really like to read those PDF files on the German Festool site.

I am not certain if Festool Corporate would be concerned.  If so, never mind...  [huh]

Ahhh...

I forgot to add that once converted to Word docs, they could then be run through the Google universal translator.  It would not be perfect, but that would be, I believe, easier than attempting to read German.  Yes, the pictures are pretty and pretty informative, but.
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #54 on: August 30, 2011, 08:57 AM »
Standard Adobe Acrobat (not Reader) can save PDF documents in a number of formats, e.g. HTML, JPEGs, etc ... including MS Word. (I use a Mac).
Which part of the document are you interested in? perhaps I can help.

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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2011, 03:35 PM »
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Does anyone know where to purchase  the Hettich knockdown connectors  seen in the Guido movie ?
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2011, 04:34 PM »
No, but I think you should look at Lamello clamex system. I know they're not cheap and the best ones need a special tool, ( but the basi ones can be used with a biscuit jointer with a special blade) but to me they seem to do the same as the hettich only better. I bought the zeta machine and really like it in spite of the festoolish price.
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2011, 06:38 PM »
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Does anyone know where to purchase  the Hettich knockdown connectors  seen in the Guido movie ?
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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2011, 07:30 PM »
Thanks for the reply Tim I don't supose you know where they seel the jig or better yet the dimensions to make the Jig that Guido used? ???

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Re: "Chaos Theory" new How To Video from Guido Henn on Festool.de
« Reply #59 on: September 28, 2011, 10:17 AM »
Thanks for the reply Tim I don't supose you know where they seel the jig or better yet the dimensions to make the Jig that Guido used? ???

Hafele sells them but they are expensive and you may need to provide proof (letterhead, business card etc.) that you are in the business.
Search for Rafix jig on Google.
I think the jig that Guido uses is the best solution for occasional use and unless you have experience (practice) it's more accurate than the Hafele jig.
I would just buy the connectors and build your own jig through trial and error. The video gives you a fair amount of clues as to what is required. If you look at the RafixHafele documentation it will show you that you need a 10mm, 20mm and 5 mm bits for these connectors. The Hafele site has downloadable catalogs that give a little more detail on additional connectors and assembly.
Unless you need the flexibility to move or break down your cabinet frequently or need to mass produce panels on a CNC to modular system (32mm) for easy configuration, shipping and assembly on site, ready to assemble fittings (RTA) such as these don't really make much sense. Also, you do need to make extremely accurate cuts (dimensionally and square) for this system, or the connectors may not work properly.
These fittings create very good (butt) joints but like Richard said above the Lamello clamex system will be easier to use if not a little more pricey. By the time you bought the Hafele jig and figured out how to use it, you could probably assemble your whole cabinet with the Lamello tool.
For occasional use assembling a cabinet box with biscuits, dadoes, screws and glue is cheaper faster, just as strong (or stronger) as using these types of connectors. There is a brilliant DVD by Frank Klaus called biscuit joinery showing how to build bookcase using knock down hardware among other things.
Tim