Cool video and example of how easy he 32mm system can be. Looks like there are four in the series and 1 and 2 are available

Video part 1

Video part 2

Do you know if somebody sells these shelf fixtures in the USA? Dominoes are good, but sometimes I need something adjustable. This door hinges jig is really cool!

Thank you,
VictorL

Or maybe just a voice over??

Victor:
Hafele, among others (Cabinet makers supply) sell this (shelf fixture) connector. You can find them on page 238 (Connectors and shelf supports) of the Hafele catalog. In addition to the zinc connectors used in the video the connectors also are made with colored plastic housing.
Tim

Very cool, and reminds me of a good, somewhat funny memory.  In high school (this is over 30 years ago), I studied German for four years.  My teacher, Mrs. Maria Schmid, was one of the best and most memorable teachers I've ever had (in 19 years of school, no less).  She had been born in Germany, and although her family had immigrated to America when she was only four, she seemed to embody what we Americans regard as the German character.  (Actually, my grandmother (RIP) was Pennsylvania Dutch, I've worked for a family-owned business run by a German family, lived next to a German family and dated a German girl, and I have to say, they all seemed to share a desire for orderliness.)

Anyway, Frau Schmid shared her classroom with another teacher who wasn't meticulous about making sure all the desks were lined up and the windows hades drawn to the same level.  Before class began, during the four minutes we were allowed for travel between classes, she'd walk to the bank of windows and calmly set each window shade even with the lowest segment of the windows.  When the bell rang for the start of class--and not a second sooner--she'd stand at the front-left corner of the left-most column of desks.  That was the cue:  she'd trained the first student in each column to align the front-left leg of his or her desk with a little "right angle" mark she had drawn on the floor in indelible ink.  As soon as the first person in the first column aligned his or her desk, people behind him or her line their desks up.  With a very slight smile of serenity on her face, Frau Schmid would then go to the next column of desks, and so on, until all of the desks were in neat rows.  With the world in perfect order, or at least as much of it as she controlled, she'd open her copy of the textbook and start the class, always the same way, every time, with a gentle voice:  "Also gut.  Heute fangen wir an auf seite....." ("That's fine.  Today we'll start on page...."--edited to correct my grammatical mistake in German)

When I saw the video on Festool's German web site, all I could think of was mankind's eternal struggle to turn chaos into order, and the peace of mind that Frau Schmid seemed to attain when she prevailed, however temporarily, in that struggle.

Ya, California Closets uses the same system.
It breaks down real quick for repainting etc.
Tim

Thanks to you too, Greg. Funny, when I googled "Guido Henn," which to me is a unique name, the majority of the hits came back for a German folk musician. It wasn't until I delved deeper into the search results that I found out that there was also a woodworker by the same name.

I am Guido Henn (the woodworker, not thy guy with the german folk music ) and I am really happy that some of you like the first two parts of the video.
I do agree that it would be nice to have the video with an english voice over and maybe if Festool-USA or Germany read this it could happen ... with "funny german accent" ...
If you want to hear this accent you can watch a video I have made for "Fine Woodworking" called: Router-Table Box-Joint Jig: Plan and Video by Guido Henn  
For more free videos (sorry most in german) you can also visit my website: http://www.hobbywood.de/videos.html there you can also download a plan for building a router table here is the link: http://www.hobbywood.de/Fraestisch.pdf

Hope you like it ...

Guido

<<Edited to fix link - P.Halle>>

Yes, What Tim said       Look forward to 3 & 4 

these videos are great.

i dont think we need new videos.

all we need is a voice over as gpowers suggested or subtitles.

it cant be that expensive to include english subtitles.

justin.

Festool, send me a RO90 and I'll do all the subtitles on these videos.  

Guido:

will there later be complete instructions and plan with dimensions for download on festool.de?

could you keep us up to date on that if you could. they are great videos (unfortunitly not in a language we understand) i would love that artical but in english.

Here's some thing funny. I was watching the videos using the GOOGLE Chrome browser which automagically translates it into English... well most of it. The funny part is that it never occurred to me what happened and I was wondering why I could read most of the text on the site though oddly worded...DUH.

Well I'm sure there is some engineer at GOOGLE working on the audio translation feature for Chrome so that whatever site you visit it will all sound like a bad Kung Fu movie or an Italian Western :-)

Excellent videos btw!

Guido,

 

I thought I recognized your work. For those that haven't seen it, here's a video with some of his clever kids' toys

http://videos.americanwoodworker.com/video/German-woodworker-builds-wooden

Best,
Steve

You're right, the width should be changed with the Domino on.  However, you won't do damage as long as you don't force knob when the tool turned off.

Thats because the mans got taste 

It's all about the gear teeth meshing without forcing them.

Well, i quite often turn the knob when the machine is off.  If there is any resistance at all then i click it on.  Like others said, as long as you don't force it !!!

I have a question about the holes for Hettich Excenter fixing. Guido had that DIY jig for the two holes (10mm and 20mm) which he uses with two routers.



I am looking for the easiest way (except buying the 200 EUR Hettich Drill-Jig) to drill those two holes and was thinking if the MFS might be helpfull for this task.

My initial idea was to use a similar jig for the 10mm hole with a drill and forstner bit and the OF1010 with side stop, but when I saw the MFS 400 today I thought it might be usefull for this and other projects and even be more accurate since those Excenter fixings are not forgiving like the Euro Hinge.

Any idea how to improve the drilling process

Hi I think the easiest and cheapest away to compete the task is the way it was done in the video.this was not a diy jig but a user made jig you could make the same thing using a piece of phenolic if you wanted something more attractive

I do not own the mfs 400 but i see there is some sort of guide you can attach to the rails you would need two of them and you would still need two machines.
and i'm not sure if you could get the hole centres close enough together.

so why not just use a .50 cent piece of ply or mdf for the jig that way you can use it over and over.

Mike, no problem, please visit my Website "hobbywood.de" and click "kontakt" and "email senden" to give me your email-adress and I will help you.

Regards

Guido

Guido,

Your elegant solution to this universal storage problem is very useful because it can easily be scaled to fit one 's requirements of available space, or systainer (or other container) dimensions, or material sizes that are available, etc. The video flows well and shows the sequence and some details.
How did you position the hole for the threaded steel dowels that connect the bottoms and tops to be 9.5mm (assuming 19mm thick material) from the panel ends? - template? jig? LR32?
What do some other members use?
thanks

I think that if I were ever to go to Europe, I would hit the Festool store and get stuff that you cannot get here and ship it over.  I love that table saw where the saw moves and the wood is stationary.  And that clamp for corners...

Yes they are well worth reading through.. lots of pictures and plans for load of ideas, pretty easy to follow, also some good jig ideas for CMS etc, plus so good explanations on topics like finishing
here are some screenshots from the PDFs to give you all a taster, sysports, workshop storage plus lots more!

One more thing.  I wanted to give a shout out to Guido.  He has been very helpful at patient with the euro 32 system noob (me).

As I was shooting Guido messages as the different phases occur, this time I thought I would see what the group thinks.  

This didn't occur to me as I learned to construct face frame cabs, the hinge placement is not supremely critical in the sense where the hinge attached to the frame.  Now with the euro style you must be able to figure out where to bore the hole in the door as it relates to the hole series inside the cabinet.  

Guido in the video uses some sort of plastic piece that snaps into the case holes and the door is then slid under the other side and aligned.  A pencil mark is transferred from the jig and locates the hinge cup in the door.

Does anyone know where I can find such a inexpensive piece of plastic??  

Thanks to everyone and especially you Guido.  

Mike

Does anyone have a yearly account with Adobe for converting PDF to Word documents online? I know there are a few FOG'ers that speak German but I know that I do not.  Nor do I know the binary language of moisture evaporators , but I would really like to read those PDF files on the German Festool site.

I am not certain if Festool Corporate would be concerned.  If so, never mind...  

Ahhh...

I forgot to add that once converted to Word docs, they could then be run through the Google universal translator.  It would not be perfect, but that would be, I believe, easier than attempting to read German.  Yes, the pictures are pretty and pretty informative, but.

 
Does anyone know where to purchase  the Hettich knockdown connectors  seen in the Guido movie ?

Custom service Hardware Catalog Page 90
Tim

Hafele sells them but they are expensive and you may need to provide proof (letterhead, business card etc.) that you are in the business.
Search for Rafix jig on Google.
I think the jig that Guido uses is the best solution for occasional use and unless you have experience (practice) it's more accurate than the Hafele jig.
I would just buy the connectors and build your own jig through trial and error. The video gives you a fair amount of clues as to what is required. If you look at the RafixHafele documentation it will show you that you need a 10mm, 20mm and 5 mm bits for these connectors. The Hafele site has downloadable catalogs that give a little more detail on additional connectors and assembly.
Unless you need the flexibility to move or break down your cabinet frequently or need to mass produce panels on a CNC to modular system (32mm) for easy configuration, shipping and assembly on site, ready to assemble fittings (RTA) such as these don't really make much sense. Also, you do need to make extremely accurate cuts (dimensionally and square) for this system, or the connectors may not work properly.
These fittings create very good (butt) joints but like Richard said above the Lamello clamex system will be easier to use if not a little more pricey. By the time you bought the Hafele jig and figured out how to use it, you could probably assemble your whole cabinet with the Lamello tool.
For occasional use assembling a cabinet box with biscuits, dadoes, screws and glue is cheaper faster, just as strong (or stronger) as using these types of connectors. There is a brilliant DVD by Frank Klaus called biscuit joinery showing how to build bookcase using knock down hardware among other things.
Tim

Limey556:

you need the Hettich Drilljig VB. I have long searched for the best and cheapest way to drill those Hettich VB Fittings and I think this is the best choice.

http://web2.hettich.com/hbh/Start.do?localeId=EN&itemId=20166

unfortunately I couldn't find a dealer for the Drilljig VB, but Woodstocksupply offers the one for Euro Hinges for $187 and the VB is usually the same price:

http://www.woodstocksupply.com/hinge-drilling-jig-47303-hettich.html

Maybe they can help?

I have just used it to build a "Guido" closet and it was much easier than using two routers with two bits as Guido did. If you need to buy the 20 and 10 mm router bit and the rest of the equipment you probably still have to add a liitle bit more cash for the Drilljig (should be $180 or so), but if you don't have two routers anyway, the Drilljig will be much more convenient. It is also adjustable for the different sizes of the Hettich VB Fittings. Be sure to get the proper VB fitting for the thickness you're working with.

For any kind of built in I would recommend this fitting, since it was very fast and easy to assemble and the whole closet seems extremely rigid.

Festoller:
Great info, and thanks for the link to Wood stock supply.
Tim

Terry:
I know that Wood stock supply has the Hettich DrillJjib VB so you should be able to get it there. Hopefully I didn't buy the last one.
I am a big fan of the LR32 system, and it's really why I started using Festool in the first place. It works flawlessly.
I don't have the 1400 (plan on buying one) so I can't comment on that, but I love the 1010. It's light, and easy to manage reaching across a wide board.
Obviously the best way to use it is to keep to 32mm increments in your sizes but I have used imperial measurement and as long as you mark the rail for the proper hole alignment you are good to go. There are some great tutorials here on FOG.
I can't remember if the Guido builds a back on his cabinets or not and the video isn't working for me.
 The closet inserts that I have built hang on a cabinet suspension system which you might also want to look into depending on your approach.

Tim

That Hettich VB Drill Jig is $380.00 CDN from Robert Bury Supply, they have one in Canada, I think the guy I talked said it was in Montreal.

John

Tim:

I don't think so, at least I havn't heard anything in Germany about it.

For the Guido clostet I used the Hettich Sensys Hinge, which is a great evolution from average Euro Hinges. They look very clean and well designed for a hinge and the selfclosing feature is spectecular. I will never use a different brand again.

http://web2.hettich.com/hbh/Start.do?localeId=EN&itemId=9071239

Terry:
Here is a page showing a picture of the Hafele system which is exactly the same as the Hettich suspension system.

 CabinetSuspensionFittings.pdf (82.4 KB - downloaded 240 times.)



As the document says these are aluminum or steel rails, available in any size with a profile much like a z clips into which the hanger hooks onto. Essentially you fasten the rail onto the wall (into studs) and then hang the cabinet on the rail. Saves putting a back on the cabinet particularly if this is going to be used in a closet that already has doors on it or in situations where the wall serves as the back of the cabinet.
Hope that helps.
Tim

Hey guys this is my first post on the FOG, but I am so impressed with this project I am putting together the materials to build one. Does anyone have a USA source for the panel connectors used in the video. I think they are RAFIX fittings. Thanks.

great videos but I dont like the way he drills out the handle holes on doors and drawers. Just drilling through with no scrap on the reverse, good way to get ugly blow out , I always hold a scrap of timber on the back when I drill out handles.

Interesting videos.  I've been a professional cabinetmaker for 15 years and learned a few tricks!  We use RTA fittings all the time but we also have a half million dollars worth of saws and CNC machining centers.  A few things in the video did make me smile and wonder,

1.  The edgebanding on the doors and drawer fronts seems to magically appear.  No mention is made of it's application.  I find myself wondering if there is a $30,000.00 Holzher edgebander just off camera.

2.  The gaps on the fronts are VERY good.  Nice work Guido!!  That makes me think that some (a lot of them anyway) are cut on some type of commercial panel saw.

I really enjoyed watching the videos.  Thanks for posting them.

Ted Pancoast
President
Ted Pancoast Woodworking
tedpancoastwoodworking.com

1/4" white melamine should be widely available.  Where in the world are you?   As far as the tape, ironing on white melamine tape is a pain.  You have to get the temperature just right.  Too hot and you'll melt the tape.  Not hot enough and the glue won't bond.  You'll have better luck with a hot air edgebander of some type.  A full blown hotmelt edgebander is the best option for pvc and polyester banding. 

If you are shopping at the Depot, you should be able to get some melamine faced hardboard that is about 1/8-3/16" thick that would be considerably easier to install than a full 3/4" back.  Regarding the edge banding, make sure you buy from a cabinet supply or online.  Don't be tempted by the big box edgebanding, it is very thin and friable.

I'm considering making some version of these, too, and am thinking the same thing - 16" depth to fully use the sheets.  Looking at the drawers supporting the systainers, he uses a deep block of wood to hold them in place.  They could easily be almost two inches shorter.  In other threads where people have built their own sysports, I think some people use 14" slides, which should easily fit in a shallower cabinet.  I don't know if you'd be able to keep the lids open in that case, though.

My German isn't so good, so I haven't read the article, just looked at the pictures.  Maybe a lot of the waste goes towards making the drawer sides.  Looks like the drawer sides are 15mm instead of 19mm, but it's a possible use of the waste if you want to follow the depth dimension exactly.

An alternative that I'm thinking about is to build 4' upper cabinets with rolling sysports underneath.  Size the sysports to match the height of my MFT/3 so they could be used for material support.  Should be somewhere around 7' to the top instead of 8' - I'm just average height, so there's no way I'd be able to reach the upper part of the 8' cabinets without grabbing the stepstool.