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Offline Zacharytanner

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1010 or 1400 Router???
« on: June 04, 2012, 07:42 PM »
Guys,
I am thinking about adding a new router. I have a 2000 which I only use in a table. I want to use the rails and LR32 system eventually...
Which one and why?

Thanks,
Frank
« Last Edit: June 04, 2012, 08:05 PM by Zacharytanner »
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Frank

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Offline Peter Halle

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2012, 07:55 PM »
Both routers will work on the rails and with the LR-32 system.  The ergonomics of the 1010 are better with the LR-32 than the 1400.  If you have a bunch of 1/2 inch shank bits then that will tip the scales to the 1400.

I have a 1400 and love it.  But I could see a 1010 in the long-term future.

Peter

Offline Ken Nagrod

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2012, 08:00 PM »
Your current bit collection may be the deciding factor.  If you have a good compliment of 1/2" shank bits to use in and out of a router table, you may not want to invest in 1/4" or 8mm shank bits required with the OF 1010.  If the smaller size and lighter weight or dust pickup differences are important factors between the 1010 and 1400, then that might sway you.  In use, I don't see any other reasons.  They're both great routers.

Offline Zacharytanner

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2012, 08:07 PM »
Thanks Peter and Ken..... I missed the whole bit size completely...Guess I assumed it would come with 2 collet sizes like my dewalt and PC...OOPS
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Frank

Offline Peter Halle

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2012, 08:17 PM »
Thanks Peter and Ken..... I missed the whole bit size completely...Guess I assumed it would come with 2 collet sizes like my dewalt and PC...OOPS

It does come with 2  [big grin].  1/4 inch and 8mm.

Peter

Offline Zacharytanner

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2012, 08:35 PM »
Peter....You got me  ;D


Frank
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Frank

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2012, 08:44 PM »
I really wish that 8mm was more available here.  It bridges the gap between 1/4 and 1/2 and in the less than the heaviest duty applications would be fine.  

Peter

Offline neilc

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2012, 08:49 PM »
Lee Valley has a pretty good selection of 8mm router bits.

neil

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2012, 08:55 PM »
I have the 1400 and like it a lot, both on and off the LR32 rail. Unless you already have a lot of 1/4 bits just dont ever pick up a 1010 and you will be oblivious to how heavy the 1400 is. Its working for me. Eric

Offline BMH

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2012, 01:03 AM »
If you going to use the LR32 the 1010 is the best choice. I start with the LR32 and the 1400 and realize how heavy the router was and how strong the springs are especially after 800 holes. The 1010 is lighter with springs that are more adapted to the LR 32.
That being said I really like both router but they both have there niche.

Bruce

Offline Zacharytanner

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2012, 11:03 AM »
I think I am going with the 1010

Thanks for the input guys.

Frank
Festool Kapex KS 120EB w/ 4 Blades,Domino DF500 Set,Domino DS Systainer 4,5,6,8,10,TS55 w/ FS1400 and FS2700 Rails,MFT/3 with Accessories,CT33E with Hose Caddy and Multiple Hoses,D36 Tradesman,Trion PS300 Jigsaw,RTS 400 EQ Orbital Sander,RO 125,RO125  Abrasive Systainer with , 60,80,100,120,220 Grit Festool paper AND Vlies discs,2 Systainer Carts,Festool T18+3 Kit ,ZOBO Forstner Bits Imperial,CXS Kit with Centrotec Imperial Wood Bits,ETS 150/3,150 Abrasive Systainer with Paper,Festool Toolie,RO 90 ,RO 90 Abrasive Systainer with paper,OF 1010 Router,HL850 Planer,HL850 Rustic Undulating Head,SYS MFT Tabletop Systainer,Veritas Parf Dogs,QWAS Rail Dogs,Precision Dogs,RS2 SanderRS2 Paper Systainer with RUBIN2 150  180  220 Paper and Punch Surfix Systainer
Frank

Offline Roseland

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2012, 12:19 PM »
My first Festool router was the OF1400, chosen because of the 1/2" capacity and ease of fitting guide bushes and chip deflector, and I'm very pleased with it.

However I subsequently decided I wanted to be able to rout edging flat using the angle arm (WA-OF) and edging plate (UP-OF).  Not only is the OF1400 a bit heavy for this (although the parts fit) but the clear chip guard (SF-OF) only fits the OF1010.  I had a play with one at my local dealer's open day a couple of months ago and was hooked.  I got one and it is a delight to use.

I share the other posters' comments that if you have a good selection of 1/2" cutters this may sway you, but if you don't I'd go OF1010.  I think it has all the power you're likely to need for most jobs.

Andrew
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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2012, 12:33 PM »
......However I subsequently decided I wanted to be able to rout edging flat using the angle arm (WA-OF) and edging plate (UP-OF).  Not only is the OF1400 a bit heavy for this (although the parts fit) but the clear chip guard (SF-OF) only fits the OF1010.  I had a play with one at my local dealer's open day a couple of months ago and was hooked.  I got one and it is a delight to use......


Andrew

Yeah, the edge routing accessories add another layer of functionality to the 1010.  I posted about these accessories on my blog recently.  Check out the video to a good idea of how it all works.  The Green and Dark Blue blog: edge routing accessories.
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Offline Steve R

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2012, 12:49 PM »
Looking back on many Festool posts... Here is the confluence:

If you own only one router the 1400 as it can do it all 32mm and larger stuff..

Only do 32mm 1010 and a trim router.

Just want a table mount / handheld system that will not have an issue cutting anything 2000 is it the hero.

So you see you really need all three and every other Festool product made [big grin] [thumbs up]

You have the 2000 go for the 1010...think about the trim router.

Cheers,
Steve

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Offline ama

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Re: 1010 or 1400 Router???
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2012, 03:55 PM »
I really wish that 8mm was more available here.  It bridges the gap between 1/4 and 1/2 and in the less than the heaviest duty applications would be fine.  

Peter

Not only that, but the selection of ball bearings for 8 mm is far greater than for the imperial sizes and 12 mm. This probably isn't a deciding factor for most people but I really want to be able to slap on a 3 mm larger bearing on the flush trimmer for rough sizing before going back to go perfectly flush.

It is also nice to be able to go with a slightly smaller bearing to give you one more shot at getting your edge just right without modifying your pattern. Oops. [embarassed]