Author Topic: Adhesive edgeganding & extreme temp/humidity fluctuations in seasonal residences  (Read 1693 times)

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Offline TinyShop

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Hi All! I'm hoping to draw on the knowledge of anyone who has personal experience with modern adhesive edgebanding (ideally, real wood adhesive edgebanding) that's used in seasonal residences located in northern climates. Specifically, I'm wondering about the durability of the adhesive (and the integrity of the edgebanding) when the associated cabinetry is subjected to, say, an entire winter of below freezing temps (as well as the variable conditions that punctuate the remainder of the year as would be experienced by an unheated/non-air conditioned but insulated building when unoccupied).

The wood-framed, lightly-occupied structure in question is a ~250sqft tiny house on a trailer and, when it's not occupied, it is closed up. It is fully insulated with a mix of hermetically sealed rigid foam insulation (external/cold-side of the roof) and dense pack cellulose (walls, rafter bays and floor). When unoccupied, for ventilation, the building's sole passive air exchange vent is left fully open and the portable urine-diverting dry toilet, which features a solar-powered fan for ventilating the desiccation chamber, is left fully operational (which means that air is continually pulled from the building's interior, passed over the desiccation chamber before being expelled outside. The structure's exterior features a rain-screen wall, underneath which is installed hermetically sealed Tyvek. Meanwhile, to restrict water vapor produced inside the building from migrating out into the plywood sheathing, insulation and beyond (when the building is occupied, which is a particular concern in below freezing ambient temperatures), the variable-breathable material known as "Membrain" hermetically seals the stud and rafter bays (behind the T&G cedar interior cladding). The floor, which does not feature any Membrain, is protected though only via a layer of 3/4 plywood underlayment and custom, wide, 1" thick maple T&G flooring. The exterior of the floor is protected by a layer of hermetically sealed Masonite.

When the building is occupied, it's presently mostly only in warmer months of the year and, even then, only for two or three consecutive months at a time. However, this could change in the future with a switch-over to part- or full-time, year-round use.

Simply put, should we avoid adhesive edgebanding in favor of solid, fastener-and-glue-installed 'homemade' banding? For the euro-cabinets in question, we'll be using pre-finished plywood (likely maple).

Any thoughts, advice, etc. will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks! :)

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Offline lwoirhaye

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Even banding applied with $100,000 banders has documented cases of failure.  Roll banding has a primary purpose and it's to bang out as much casework as possible at minimal labor expense.  I'm not knocking it, but it does fail for a variety of reasons.  Will it fail on you?  Probably not, but you won't go wrong milling up your own 1/4" thick strips and gluing it with regular wood glue and clamps and/or nails. 

Offline TinyShop

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OK, I'm totally sold on shop-made solid hardwood edging! That was easy! Accordingly, I've started contemplating the various options as described elsewhere on this forum. Thanks so much!

Offline Michael Kellough

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It’s tiny! Just use solid wood.

Offline pixelated

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I have some bookcases that I originally built for my wife's bookshop, they are now about 15 years old, and edge-banded with woodworking store self adhesive edge banding. They've been in and out of storage many times, and subjected to all sorts of temperature extremes. No issues so far.
That being said, shop made edging works well, looks better (IMO) and is a little easier to work with if you don't have machines for sticking the roll stuff on.

Offline Dongar

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I used hot melt edge banding on some cabinets located on Raquette lake in the Adirondacks.about 10 years ago. The cabin is unheated most of the winter. We have spent some new years up there where the temperature inside was -30 Fahrenheit when we got there. It took us 7 hours to get the temperature to 32 with the wood stove and it felt warm.The edge banding is still in good condition. I made 2 bath  vanities with edge banding for a relative. The one the adults used is still good 20 years later. the on in the children's bath s tarted delaminating in the first year from all the water the kids dumped/ splashed on it. Also I built a stand of oak and oak plywood for a 150 gallon aquarium. The edge banding on the plywood doors and drawer fronts are good 20 years later but a leak  from a filter stored in the stand soaked the bottom and it is now loose. So based on this humidity and cold don't seem to bother it but water will.