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Offline Acrobat

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Can the CMS Table be joined to MFT table?
« on: May 05, 2014, 06:18 PM »
Hi, excuse me if this is a dumb question or been asked before.., I assume it can be done, but can the cms table and the mft table be joined together?
I have the complete CMS GE table saw (exactly the same as the router table) and was wondering if its compatible with an mft table and if I could join the two together. Probably putting the cms on the left so I would be standing in front of both tables. The cms has the v groove set up which I gather is the same as an mft. I am thinking of getting an mft so since space is a premium it would be good if I could join them. If so, is there any attachment piece thats required to align them and keep them together? Or is it a bad idea entirely?

thanks
kerry
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Offline neilc

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Re: Can the CMS Table be joined to MFT table?
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2014, 06:51 PM »
They are the same height.  You could take a piece of plywood, perhaps 4-6" wide to span between the CMS and MFT table and craft a V on the underside along each edge to fit into the V-groove and align with the top.  This could be clamped down into the groove. 

Use a couple of screws down through the bridge piece and wing nuts to go through a clamping piece of wood that would clamp under the V channels.

I have not done it, but seems like it would be relatively easy to do.

neil

Offline Alex

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Re: Can the CMS Table be joined to MFT table?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2014, 06:53 PM »
I don't have either of them, but knowing Festool I'd figure they are both the exact same height.

I do know there is no out-of-the-box connector from Festool. One can only guess why this hasn't crossed their mind.

But it shouldn't be difficult to make your own with some wood or aluminium. Be creative.

Offline Acrobat

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Re: Can the CMS Table be joined to MFT table?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2014, 07:44 PM »
They are the same height.  You could take a piece of plywood, perhaps 4-6" wide to span between the CMS and MFT table and craft a V on the underside along each edge to fit into the V-groove and align with the top.  This could be clamped down into the groove. 

Use a couple of screws down through the bridge piece and wing nuts to go through a clamping piece of wood that would clamp under the V channels.

I have not done it, but seems like it would be relatively easy to do.

neil
Hmm, yeah I thought they would be the same height tables, so your suggestion re the ply sounds like a good idea. If I get an mft table I'll look at doing something similar. Would be cool to have all the table area combined.
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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Can the CMS Table be joined to MFT table?
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2014, 08:04 PM »
The tables are different dimensions. One of these along the front;

http://www.festoolusa.com/Web_files/MFT_table_connector.pdf

Lock the MFT fence free end device onto the groove of the CMS, then use a quick or screw clamp in the MFT clamp channel to draw the backsides of the tables together.

Tom

Offline Acrobat

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Re: Can the CMS Table be joined to MFT table?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2014, 04:59 PM »
The tables are different dimensions. One of these along the front;

http://www.festoolusa.com/Web_files/MFT_table_connector.pdf

Lock the MFT fence free end device onto the groove of the CMS, then use a quick or screw clamp in the MFT clamp channel to draw the backsides of the tables together.

Tom
Sweet, that would be the ticket.
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Offline GarryMartin

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Re: Can the CMS Table be joined to MFT table?
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2014, 05:16 PM »
The tables are different dimensions. One of these along the front;

http://www.festoolusa.com/Web_files/MFT_table_connector.pdf


The CMS-GE doesn't have T-slots, only the V-groove. Hence you can't use table connectors.

Offline Reiska

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Re: Can the CMS Table be joined to MFT table?
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2014, 05:28 PM »
Sorry to poop the party, but that connector will not work with the CMS-GE since Festool in some kind of brain-fart decided to use a slightly different side profile for the CMS-GE i.e. it only has the top V-groove and nothing under it (the T-track is missing - just went to double check in the shed). So you either build yourself a custom connector or just be content with having them side-by-side.

They are identical in height, but the CMS-GE is shorter than the MFT3 is wide (notice how the CMS-GE optional fence shares dimensions with the CS50 and the MFT3-VL module shares dimensions with the CS70 and the MFT3 i.e. is longer).

I regularly use my MFT3 as the outfeed table for my CMS-GE just by butting them against each other, but to make the transition smooth it would benefit from a filler bit of wood in the V-grooves to get rid of the edge/crack even if the connection would not have much structural strenght. Probably the simplest joining design would be to slide a block of wood over both V-grooves - see attached concept drawing.

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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Can the CMS Table be joined to MFT table?
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2014, 06:39 PM »
The tables are different dimensions. One of these along the front;

http://www.festoolusa.com/Web_files/MFT_table_connector.pdf


The CMS-GE doesn't have T-slots, only the V-groove. Hence you can't use table connectors.

Nothing a drill and tap didn't solve.

I believe it is a different profile due to the way the stand is assembled.

Tom