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Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« on: March 18, 2017, 06:04 PM »
Hi Everyone

I have just uploaded my latest "Workshop Notes" video which contains a couple of Festool related items.

One is the fitting of the new dust port to the TS55 which is terribly easy to do.

The other is a mention of Festool storage solutions which I will follow up with at least one video but more likely two once I have assembled all of the kit. I have bought some items from Axminster but several bits were out of stock.

I have had a lot of people ask me about the various Sys Sorts, Sys Combis and tool boxes and so the time is right to produce the videos.

Here is the link to the video:



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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2017, 06:31 PM »
Hi Peter,

thanks for the new Workshop-Notes! :)

Have you used the TS with a hose attached since upgrading to the new dust port?

I have the new dust port on my TSC and after some use I don't think that it's a significant improvement - with hose attached it quickly and constantly "overrides" the notches/"gearing" and doesn't keep the angle it was originally set to very well.

Is your experience any better?

Kind regards,
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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2017, 02:33 AM »
Hi Oliver

I have not tried it yet but it did feel stiffer to turn. I will report back from time to time to guide other people.

Someone through YouTube tells me that there is a little spring that can pop out when that cover is removed. Can anyone enlighten me on this? If it is a real possibility I will add something about it in another video.

Cheers.

Peter

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2017, 03:50 AM »
I changed the port on my ts55r awhile back before these newer twist lock hoses came out. It didn't take long for the port to start dropping down again just like my old one. So a bit of a waste of time really. Maybe the notches wear away or something  I don't know I haven't investigated yet.

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2017, 04:23 AM »

Someone through YouTube tells me that there is a little spring that can pop out when that cover is removed. Can anyone enlighten me on this? If it is a real possibility I will add something about it in another video.

Cheers.

Peter

Hi Peter

That was me on YouTube i was going to pop the cover off mine & take some pictures of said spring clip but Van is reversed right up against the house & it's Sunday morning so meh LOL but i did find a FOG post

http://festoolownersgroup.com/ask-festool/ts55-where-does-this-metal-clip-part-go/

Its a tiny clip right next to the screw hole for the cover plate right where the clear/green splinter guards clip into the TS55.

Once you're aware of it you will always remember about it when removing the cover plate & it's trivial to put back in place, but would be a right bugger to source & replace if lost which could easily happen especially if done on site  [wink] unlike some peeps who never leave the comfort of their snug warm, very clean & tidy workshops 😁 hehe

Keep up the great videos though they are very informative & well made.

Darren
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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2017, 05:39 AM »
Hi Darren ( @Womble )

Many thanks for that. I will check mine out and mention the potential issue in my next Workshop Notes video.

Cheers

Peter

(Sent from the comfort of a cold workshop/studio with no natural light and nobody to talk to all day  [wink] )

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2017, 06:44 AM »
I changed the port on my ts55r awhile back before these newer twist lock hoses came out. It didn't take long for the port to start dropping down again just like my old one. So a bit of a waste of time really. Maybe the notches wear away or something  I don't know I haven't investigated yet.

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Same here (on my TS75)

I doubt the notches have worn as mine has hardly been used.  Possibly it is a small advance on the original, but I think it is just an inadequate design.

I am starting to wonder how much real-life testing of their products Festool actually conduct.

I am sorry that I am questioning that.

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2017, 06:51 AM »
I could be wrong, but my understanding is that these "new connectors" were intended for attaching dust bags from the TSC55 not for a Hose.  If true this would explain the experiences people are having as they were not actually designed for the weight of a dust hose.

I have also read elsewhere that the new connectors negatively affects how the TS55/TS75 saw sits in its original insert in the Systainer, if that matters to some people.  Perhaps someone could check this out?

Thanks, Mark

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2017, 07:24 AM »
@scholar and @Mark Johnson

If this new one does not stay put I may well use some superglue to fix it in the upwards position which I like to have at my tracksaw cutting station.

Yes, this is the connector that would come with the TSC55.

I will check out the systainer issue. There is an image on the instruction leaflet that implies that one has to undo the bayonet end piece to get it to fit in the systainer.

Peter

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2017, 07:51 AM »

I have also read elsewhere that the new connectors negatively affects how the TS55/TS75 saw sits in its original insert in the Systainer, if that matters to some people.  Perhaps someone could check this out?

Thanks, Mark

The TS75 fits back in the systainer fine. 

[but my TS75 originally came in a Classic systainer and I have since swapped the insert over into a T-Loc - I don't know if the latest insert is different]

Cheers


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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2017, 10:30 AM »
A couple of wraps with just about any kind of tape (around the part where it fits in the slot) will make it pretty much  unmovable and is not as permanent as super glue.   Trial and error as to how many wraps of what kind of tape to make it tight as you want it.

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2017, 11:40 AM »
Maybe some Teflon tape from the plumbing isle. Thin and easy to get off without a sticky mess.

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2017, 01:09 PM »
I could be wrong, but my understanding is that these "new connectors" were intended for attaching dust bags from the TSC55 not for a Hose.

I have also read elsewhere that the new connectors negatively affects how the TS55/TS75 saw sits in its original insert in the Systainer, if that matters to some people. 

You're correct on both counts.

The end connection must be removed on a TS 55 in the original Systainer because it is longer then the original dust port and rests against the wall of the Systainer bowing it slightly and making it difficult to close the lid. It also prevents the TS from nesting properly in the Systainer insert.

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2017, 02:01 PM »
I have had the same experience with this fitting and thought it was only happening to me. I could not figure out what was wrong. Makes a lot of sense if it was designed primarily for a dust bag. Apparently it is a misapplication of the part to control hose direction. Although I read a thread on FOG a while back where @tjbnwi indicated that he has retrofitted all his TS 55's with this fitting. He did not mention anything about a problem. Cannot locate that thread.
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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2017, 02:09 PM »
@squarecut, this is probably the thread you're looking for, where I first advertised that we have the new dust port and dust bag available for those in the U.S.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-sales-dealer-area/get-your-ts-5575-dust-bag-conversion-kit-from-the-nut/msg403555/#msg403555

For those interested in this easy upgrade, you can order here:

http://www.festoolproducts.com/accessories/track-saws/track-saw-dust-bags.html
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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2017, 02:20 PM »
Thanks @Shane Holland
That is the thread that had me order the dust port fitting from you.
The thread I am referring to was from @tjbnwi actually showing a photo of his TS 55's lined up with that fitting attached.
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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2017, 02:26 PM »
Hmm, I don't remember that from Tom, but Chris did post a photo of the TS in the Systainer with the new port on Ultimate Tools' Instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQogtvgFWUw/?taken-by=ultimatetools
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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2017, 03:38 PM »
I wrap silicone tape around the fitting and saw, that makes it cling and very stiff to move.

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2017, 03:49 PM »
Found it @Shane Holland
The photo I was referring to was in your referenced thread - see reply #72 that thread - Tom shows pictures of the retrofit - last photo of all his TS's retrofitted
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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2017, 07:06 PM »
The hose still flops around, wish it was a lot stiffer.

My 55 will not fit in the Systainer properly with the port on the adapter, my 75 does fit in the Systainer with the port on the adapter.

The picture again.

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2017, 08:48 AM »
Hi Darren  @Womble

I just checked my TS55 for that spring and found that it is not present in my saw. I suspect it is the TS55R that has it as the link you provided shows a picture of a saw with a clear plastic piece where the chip guard goes.

Cheers.

Peter

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2017, 09:40 AM »
@Shane Holland - are the NUTS also carrying the new systainer insert that allows for the the TS55req to fit in its systainer properly ?

I believe this dilemma and the req. part number are shown on the instruction sheet that Peter references as absolute simplicity.

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2017, 10:15 AM »
@Shane Holland - are the NUTS also carrying the new systainer insert that allows for the the TS55req to fit in its systainer properly ?

We do not currently stock it.
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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2017, 12:05 PM »
I have just dug out the instructions from the workshop recycling bin. The new systainer insert is 201912 and when I did a search for this to find a stockist I was pointed back here to another thread !

For anyone in the UK, I have always found Toolfest to be very good at sorting out obscure parts - my apologies Warren if you cannot do this one.

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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2017, 01:21 PM »
OK, here is a bodge for the feeble ratchet on the new(ish) TS hose connector outlet.

This discussion made me have a proper look at it. I show a few pics below. Firstly, you have to free off the captive locking ring - I warmed it up a bit with my hot air gun and prised it off with a screwdriver - I could have done a neater job with some more patience, but it will all form back together with some more heat.

You can see that the "ratchet" operates with two plastic fingers the ends of which engage in the ridges on the edge of the section fixed to the saw. I figured that the ratchet would be stiffer if I reduced the play in the fingers - I cut a couple of little pieces of pvc, shaped roughly to the gap and glued them in with superglue.

The end result is definitely much stiffer; we'll see how long it lasts, but the angle I require doesn't change much so it should not get too much wear.

Conclusion - worth the effort, but should not have been necessary 😬













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Re: Fitting a new dust port on a TS55
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2017, 03:10 PM »
Hi Darren  @Womble

I just checked my TS55 for that spring and found that it is not present in my saw. I suspect it is the TS55R that has it as the link you provided shows a picture of a saw with a clear plastic piece where the chip guard goes.

Cheers.

Peter

Hi Peter

Yes my model is a TS 55 REQ-Plus GB 110V & i have already previously fitted this connector to my saw a few months ago as i do use the dust bag on occasions. My TS 55 REQ-Plus GB 110V takes both the clear inserts & the green sacrificial splinter guards.

The REQ 100% has the tiny clip i mentioned, i can provide some photos if required. I cannot comment on the non REQ version as everyone i know has the R versions.

I do appreciate you taking the time to check your own saw again though & it has highlighted a difference between the two versions  :)

So i stand by my little "watch out" for the little spring clip still, for those with the REQ versions swapping out the connectors :)

Thanks
Darren