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Offline mickmick

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Just bought an lr32 sys and holey rail, arrives tomorrow.
Want to do some planning for a row of cabinets for the shop tonight.
I am going to make the dimensions of the cabinet friendly for the 32mm system, so the height I am using is 704mm, as suggested by poplar carpenter.
In the same vein, is there anything I need to know with regards to drawer front sizes?
I want to do a full row of holes down each side with a 6mm bit, so I can use euro screws to secure my drawer runners. They will then be easily movable, so that I can mix and match drawer positions, mix normal drawers with sys stainer drawers. If the system is 32mm based, do the drawer sizes have to be 32mm based? I am only talking about the front height of the drawers obviously.

For instance if I wanted all very thin drawers, would it be:

64mm drawer front
3mm for spacer
= 67mm allowed for each drawer?
plus 3mm on the top, to allow for a space there.

Am I thinking right on this?
I may not have explained this properly sorry.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2019, 11:58 AM by mickmick »
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Offline Bert Vanderveen

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The holes need to be 5 mm.

The best way to get this right is to make a drawing scale 1 to 1. Sideview that is. How it all works out depends on whether you want the drawer fronts flush with the case or not. The Systainer drawers stick out a bit — the documentation supplied goes into it some more. It is hard to describe in words.
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Offline Sparktrician

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The holes need to be 5 mm.

The best way to get this right is to make a drawing scale 1 to 1. Sideview that is. How it all works out depends on whether you want the drawer fronts flush with the case or not. The Systainer drawers stick out a bit — the documentation supplied goes into it some more. It is hard to describe in words.

Concur!  Dummy it up using cheap MDF before you go live with expensive materials.  Design your cabinetry on a 32mm increment + 19mm.  Your 704mm would then become 723mm.  (Note the attached PDF file.)  Also understand the hole spacing requirements of any glides you use BEFORE line-boring the system holes.  Almost all glides' first holes are 37mm from the front edge of the casework.  Check the manufacturer's website for documentation on the glides to get that info for planning purposes BEFORE you get serious about designing the cabinets.  If you need clarity on this, PM me.   [smile]
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Offline cpw

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I think the SYS-AZ drawers are back 58mm according to the manual; which makes them flush with the front of the box.

The 58mm is which is the normal 37; plus another 21 for a 19mm drawer front and 2mm gap.  So if you put your holes at 37, and have your regular drawer fronts cover the edges, you would have them line up with the SYS-AZ drawers which would be proud of the cabinet front.

Offline mickmick

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Sorry for confusing post. It is so hard to put things into words sometimes.
I think I have figured out what I wanted to do.
If I want to base drawers around a 32mm hole spacing, top to bottom, these are the sizes you can do (all allowing for 3mm gaps):
Drawers Size Options:
61, 93, 125,
157, 189, 221,
253, 285, 317,
349, 381, 413,
445mm
Drawing that hopefully makes my rambling a little clearer. Top and bottom drawer are different as they account for the cabinet top and bottoms being inset inside the sides.
Bottom drawer will hold a sys4. And won't have that massive drawer front, that is just to work out spacing.
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Offline Ch!p

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There is a lot of good info in the threads for the Chaos Wall by Guido Henn like this one.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/workshops-and-mobile-vehicle-based-shops/chaos-wall-by-guido-henn-my-version/msg535911/#msg535911

Also a good video series by him on You Tube although it is in German.
Still gets the point across and enjoyable to watch a master at work.


Offline Ch!p

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I should have noted the point of the chaos wall project by Henn is that it shows how to use the 32mm system and also incorporates shelves, drawers and pull-out storage for systainers.