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« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2012, 08:24 PM » |
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Those drawers do have an unique look! I am liking the idea. I was wondering how the joint would hold up in the long run? Since the domino can be seen on the face of the drawers, and the drawer is constantly being pulled outward with/along the domino, wouldn't that make for a weaker joint holding the front/back of the drawer? A possible solution would be to add a dowel (or a really small domino) going through at 90 degress to the domino to lock it in? Or small pin nails...would have to be done at both the front and the side panels. Maybe I'm missing something.....  No worries for me. The domino will be on the side of the drawers. Not on the face. I will still make a drawer front and attach it to the drawer box. The domino acts as a dovetail joint in this application. So I feel it will be a very strong joint. I will be using under mount self closing drawer guides, so all the hardware will be hidden. It's will looks sweet !  Eric |
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« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2012, 08:42 PM » |
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Most drawer slides are set up to work with nominal 1/2 inch ply, so why use the 19 mil for the sides? I was thinking of doing the sides in 1/2 so then you would have 15 mil in the front and through the sides. Sounds like a solid drawer, can't wait to make some!
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« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2012, 08:57 PM » |
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I'm using 19mm ply because I have more then 30 sheets. It's prefinished on both sides. I was able to buy the plywood at $45 a sheet !!!! So I bought every
sheet the guy had.
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« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2012, 09:23 PM » |
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Understood, I would have done the same!
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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2012, 01:19 AM » |
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Bigger plunges with the XL would possible !
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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2012, 12:40 PM » |
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No worries for me. The domino will be on the side of the drawers. Not on the face. I will still make a drawer front and attach it to the drawer box. The domino acts as a dovetail joint in this application. So I feel it will be a very strong joint. I will be using under mount self closing drawer guides, so all the hardware will be hidden. It's will looks sweet ! Eric Ah, I understand now. My initial impression was the dominos added to the front facing design. Makes sense now. Good thread. And I put in an order for those dominos on clearance at woodcraft! |
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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2012, 08:34 PM » |
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Good thread. And I put in an order for those dominos on clearance at woodcraft!
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As did I. Great info here!
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« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2012, 12:12 AM » |
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But the wife and I are looking for something new, something that you don't see in every other kitchen. SO once I seen the domino drawers I wanted to try it out and run it pass the boss.
If you're going with plywood I think you're on the right track with a domidrawer. Dovetails in plywood is not my favorite thing. Veneer tends to blow out. I've done domidrawers in 1/2" prefinished ply drawer material, the kind with the groove already cut and the top edge banded, and it worked great. I think it's distinctive and attractive. Another justification for the Domino. But be forewarned, you may be surprised at how your wife's friends are underwhelmed by what ever you do for drawer joinery. You could do hand cut needle pins like freakin Chippendale and they would still just go, "Oh, that's nice." As Ricky Nelson aptly put it, you've got to please yourself. |
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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2012, 10:03 PM » |
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Alright, maybe it's just me, but, I just completed cabinets for our kitchen and used DT's for all the drawers and don't think they are over rated (even trash pull outs and pantry drawers). I'm a hobbyist and don't make lots of DT's but once you are set up it doesn't take much time to cut the DT's in many drawers. Especially if you use a DT jig to clamp the pieces for the Dominos you might as well cut DT's. I have a Domino and might consider using this method for a few drawers for a shop cabinet but in the house and especially in the kitchen I think the DT's give it a more finished, elegent, and hand crafted look. To me it's like the difference between plywood flat panel doors and solid hardwood raised panel doors. Mike  |
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« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2012, 11:17 PM » |
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Mike, Your drawers look great!
I enjoy making hand cut Dt's from time to time. But that takes a lot of time.
I could set up my DT jig. Or knock out a bunch of DT's with my Incra router table. But I'm looking for something unique and new.
To me, the Domino drawer is a fresh new look that you just don't see in many kitchens.
I used my DT jig as a test to see if it would speed up my production of making the drawer boxes with the Domino. It did not speed up the process for
me. The Domiplate and pins on my domino are all I need to make this a fast production.
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« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2012, 11:31 PM » |
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Alright, maybe it's just me, but, I just completed cabinets for our kitchen and used DT's for all the drawers and don't think they are over rated (even trash pull outs and pantry drawers). I'm a hobbyist and don't make lots of DT's but once you are set up it doesn't take much time to cut the DT's in many drawers. Especially if you use a DT jig to clamp the pieces for the Dominos you might as well cut DT's. I have a Domino and might consider using this method for a few drawers for a shop cabinet but in the house and especially in the kitchen I think the DT's give it a more finished, elegent, and hand crafted look. To me it's like the difference between plywood flat panel doors and solid hardwood raised panel doors. Mike Good dovetails are a thing of beauty ... they need to be crisp and tight (just like yours). On the other hand - sloppy dovetails look disgusting! A bit of a complication, but I'd love to see dominoes inserted at a slight angle zig zagging (thickness of ends permitting). You'd certainly need to do this with a single plunge. The DomiWedge? |
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« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2012, 09:15 PM » |
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Interesting thing happened today. I was at a local Woodcraft for a festool demo was talking to the rep and in walked this guy carrying a domiplate. he asked the rep if he saw one before the rep said yes and they guy whent on to talk about how much easier it made his domino life.
he said he wasn't a FOG memeber or visited here, he found the plate by googling domino (or something like that).
I got to see it up close and personal. Looks like a well made accessory.
Anyway, just thought this was a interesting story
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« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2012, 11:31 AM » |
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Following on from the ideas in this thread, I adapted a dovetail jig to enable the easy mortising of "domidrawers." I made a video rather than take photos, and added some basic details about drawer joinery in case any newbies are interested. It's pretty simple but effective.
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« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2012, 06:37 PM » |
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Have ya'll seen this one yet, pt 1 of 2
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« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2012, 07:30 PM » |
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Question....if you have a dovetail jig, couldn't you clamp your drawer pieces in it and instead of using a router, use the domino?
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« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2012, 09:10 PM » |
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Question....if you have a dovetail jig, couldn't you clamp your drawer pieces in it and instead of using a router, use the domino?
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« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2012, 09:17 PM » |
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Sure you could use the dovetail jig with the domino. But why? But if you have a DOMIPLATE it makes the process so much faster. You would be saving a lot of time if you just use the DOMIPLATE. I tried to use my dovetail jig with the DOMIPLATE, but setting up the work piece in the dovetail jig took to long. The DOMIPLATE is bad to the bone baby!!! Everyone who has a domino should have one Eric |
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