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Offline Kev

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Found this on Youtube and thought I'd share, sorry if I'm duplicating ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hurJjT-C3cY&feature=youtu.be

It's got some really cool features [wink]

Full credit to Henry Marx

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Offline shed9

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The milled out slots in the alloy to accept the clamps is quite clever, I'll be using that one.

Offline duburban

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this is really fantastic use of a go pro. Ive been thinking about filming some of my work sessions lately and my trials with an iPhone have left much to be desired.
helper: i used a festool "circular saw" to do something simple and it made it really hard

me: exactly, it makes simple cuts complicated and complicated cuts simple

Offline MightyMarxMan

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Hi guys,

now I know why I have so many hits on my youtube videos. Sounds good that you like my stuff. It was one of my first tries with the gopro.

If you like you can see the history of this table on the german woodworker website.

Before I've built this one I made two others with a Kapex between. The Kapex easily can be swung down with the use of gas springs. Here is the video from the . With the free space you are now able to put in a router table insert.

I think you have to subscribe to see the photos. So I copied some for you.

You although can visit my website with my benchdogs. The MFTM will be on the website ASAP.

Greetings Henry





















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« Last Edit: September 12, 2014, 07:22 AM by MightyMarxMan »

Offline jools

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That sir is the most awesome bench I have ever seen!  [not worthy]
It started with one little sander

Offline MightyMarxMan

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Thank you for the compliment. If there a any questions feel free to ask or contact me info@marxing.de.

Greetings Henry

Offline Alex

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It is all very nice looking an seems very practical. I see a project like this in my future. Those profiles are great.

What I'm not impressed with is the way the TS55 is mounted in the bench in the video. First the folding plate which is held in place in a really flimsy way, and second that it's placed on a side extension, meaning if you lean a bit too hard on it it can flip. I'd rethink that.

Offline MightyMarxMan

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Hi Alex,

the TS55 was just an example what you can put in the side extension. The size is big enough to put in several insert plates with different machines (router, jig saw, saw, etc.). Even all CMS plates can be mounted. To level the different hights the plate is hold by hight adjustable angles.

There is absolutly nothing flimsy. The folding plate needs a high breakaway torque to be pushed down. Please have a look at the video at around minute 2:51. There you can see, the loocking device which prevents folding down the plate. When it's loocked there is no play at all.

Greetings Henry


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 MightyMarxMan:

VERY impressive design! Thanks for sharing!

 Is that one block of wood all that locks the Kapex table in place in the 'up' position, or is there something more that I didn't see? I realize that the gas arms are holding it up as well, but I expected to see a more substantial locking mechanism. Then again, I'm not there to see if so it might be totally adequate...

Edit: Do you just drop the router panel in manually, or is there some 'magic' that goes on there as well?
« Last Edit: September 12, 2014, 10:56 AM by wow »
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Offline shed9

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Cool bench and well thought out.

I've gone a similar route with my own bench, just not as refined as yours. Will go through your site when I get chance today.

Offline MightyMarxMan

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Hi wow,

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Is that one block of wood all that locks the table in place in the 'up' position, or is there something more that I didn't see? I realize that the gas arms are holding it up as well, but I expected to see a more substantial locking mechanism.

I think you mean the Kapex lift you're talking about. Yes you're right, there is just the block of wood as a lock. By now there was no need to make something stronger or more solid. The gas springs hold the Kapex in position. The wood block is sufficient. I never had any problems sawing alloy or hard wood. The most weight of the stuff you saw is on the tables left or right.  If I would have any stiffnes problems, I would put alloy U-profiles on each piston rod from the gas springs like in the video of the table at minute 2:51.

I try to keep it simple. I always try things out first before post or sell it. Why should I change it when it works.

Greetings Henry


Offline MightyMarxMan

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Edit: Do you just drop the router panel in manually, or is there some 'magic' that goes on there as well?
« Last Edit: Today at 10:56 AM by wow »

Yes, the router panel is just put manually at it's place. There it's tightened with sliding blocks. To change from sawing to routing doesn't take long at all.
 

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That's really clever. If I end up doing my 'trailer build' I'm definitely gonna steal your idea!

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Offline Don T

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That is a great design!!
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Offline shed9

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Is that a Duss stand to the right of the Kapex? I keep hovering over the buy-now button on one of those. Looks a nice bit of kit.

Offline jacko9

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Henry,

Very impressive work bench.

Jack

Offline MightyMarxMan

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Hi shes9,

no the stand is not from Duss. It's a drilling stand/milling stand set BF1244 from Wabeco-remscheid.de. click me

This stand has a good price / quality ratio and is very popular at most users from the woodworker.de users.
That's why I bought it, too. Because it's so common I used it for my table design. The stand is movable in the alloy profile. 

Greetings Henry

Offline shed9

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Thanks for that link, I was aware of Wabeco but it rarely turns up here in the UK, seems they don't list shipping to here either. I'll drop them an email and see if they can ship. At under £100 that is significantly cheaper than Duss and Wabeco are a good name.

Thanks again.

Offline tallgrass

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First off....great work.  I am in the USA and would love to get my hands on the drill press but don't think it is available in the USA. If anyone know where I can get one in the USA let me know.

Offline Hogarth

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Try Dieter Schmid. I got my Duss stand from there. They are really nice people to deal with. http://www.fine-tools.com/index.html

Offline shed9

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Try Dieter Schmid. I got my Duss stand from there. They are really nice people to deal with. http://www.fine-tools.com/index.html

I've bought a fair few pieces from there and I concur they are superb to deal with.

Offline Don T

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How do you adjust the depth of the saw?  I did not see a mechanism to plunge the saw.
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Offline MightyMarxMan

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Hi Don T,

I didn't mount the accesories from the Festool CMS System. I use the same stuff like Festool for the depth adjustement.

I´m planing to make my own inserts plates for different tools and brands when I´ve done the CNC conversion with my mill.

Greetings Henry


Offline Don T

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I was just wondering.  I like you tables versatility.
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Offline RobBob

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Very nice.  I've been planning to use struts for my cast iron router table which will be mounted to one end of the MFT cart I am building.

Where did you get the u-profiles for the struts?  Where did you get the struts?  I have seen some on eBay but there are lots of choices.  What brand and model number did you use?
« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 08:57 AM by RLJ-Atl »

Offline MightyMarxMan

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Hi,

I'm sorry I don't know what you mean with struts? Do you mean the gas springs or the u profile on the piston rod? To find out the right length, force, angle and place of mounting the gas springs I had to buy several springs till I was satisfied. You have to find out by yourself which one fits good for case. If you have the right spring you probably first have to change the plastic joints on the ends to metal joints. Then you measure the diameter of the piston rod and take a u-profile which is slightly wider than the rod. Then you narrow the profile at the ends with pliers so that the profile is clamping on the rod when you push it on.

I hope you can understand it and I could answer your questions.

Greetings Henry
« Last Edit: September 14, 2014, 05:38 AM by MightyMarxMan »

Offline RobBob

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Hi,

I'm sorry I don't know what you mean with struts? Do you mean the gas springs or the u profile on the piston rod? To find out the right length, force, angle and place of mounting the gas springs I had to buy several springs till I was satisfied. You have to find out by yourself which one fits good for case. If you have the right spring you probably first have to change the plastic joints on the ends to metal joints. Then you measure the diameter of the piston rod and take a u-profile which is slightly wider than the rod. Then you narrow the profile at the ends with pliers so that the profile is clamping on the rod when you push it on.

I hope you can understand it and I could answer your questions.

Greetings Henry

Struts = gas springs

Yes, that answers my questions.  Thanks!

Offline mavrick1903

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Forgive what I feel is a silly (lazy?) question, but what did you use for the rail stock, and for connecting it (butt joints esp.)
PT Dealer employee.

Offline steveal13

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Good Mourning,
     I'm a union architectural trim carpenter in Chicago, IL. Both commercial and residential sub contractors are really behind the curve in compact/multi-use portable work stations. Job schedules and trades installation dates require us to move shop with limited space on site, sometimes weekly.  This system and others like it can be a major selling point to Millwork outfits in my field.  Aluminum frames make product light, durable, and adjustable with hardware that can simply be tightened, without the headache of unusable/  blown-out anchor points in similar wood designs.  Please find a way to package this design/blueprint for sale to streamline the field installation industry.

Steveal13

Offline Michael Kellough

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Forgive what I feel is a silly (lazy?) question, but what did you use for the rail stock, and for connecting it (butt joints esp.)

This is built with T-slot aluminum extrusions. It's pretty much designed for easy butt connections.

The beauty of the system is that the slot allows unlimited positioning of a fastener.
The head of the fastener is captured by the slot so the threaded part protrudes.
Typically fasteners are round or button socket head cap screws because the driver requires the smallest diameter hole be drilled through the extrusion at the desired location for the fastener.

The end view of a typical extrusion shows an X shape with a hole in the center.
The hole is sized to be tapped for the fastener appropriate for that size extrusion.
In this case 5/16"-18 tpi.


Offline rst

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8020 sells aluminum extrusions similar to these in imperial and metric versions.  They sell enough accessories that you can build practically anything you can imagine...actually that is one of their marketing phrases... "The Imagination Store"  I purchase mine on E-bay but they have industrial suppliers across the states.  If you contact them, they will refer you to the one closest to you.  When I buy on E-bay from them they send one of the small project example booklets that illustrate what customers have built.  These books are great inspiration and creative motivators.  You can also find them on Facebook, where they also show examples of builds.

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Offline Bittoo

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Hi I am so impressed with your idea. So I have gone ahead and started to build my own,with some question need to ask re:- what runner and wood you have used and from which company. Same for how did you build the router table and any more details on your drill how to fix and move back and forward please advice.

Many thanks

Bittoo

Offline Joe Church

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Very nice.

Good Job man !
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Offline grayedout

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this is a really great idea thanks for sharing ,can I ask which profile is used and if you can fit the festool quick clamps in the profile ?  I found "slot 8" which can have I-Type or B-Type

Andy

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Just started my own Profile work bench.. :) maybe someone find this info useful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gknMIQsHnZ4&feature=youtu.be





Offline grayedout

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Yes you can use a Festool Clamp , and I have Festool Dog on the front legs to hold work piece vertical .  will be setting this up and showing very soon.   Its been lot of work getting this done with my shop in bits and no space..  but I am getting there..


its 10mm Profile for Festool Clamps. 

Offline grayedout

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this is a really great idea thanks for sharing ,can I ask which profile is used and if you can fit the festool quick clamps in the profile ?  I found "slot 8" which can have I-Type or B-Type

Andy

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I am trying up load picture but it seems to have gone wrong and I can't delete them now  [eek]


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please check this post you will see the clamps set up in the track, something has gone wrong try to post to this thread..


http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/mft3-top-and-Systainer-storage-using-aluminium-profile/

Offline grayedout

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I have used 10mm BR Profile which Festool clamps will fit.  I am going to upload some videos with the Clamps in use etc..

this is a really great idea thanks for sharing ,can I ask which profile is used and if you can fit the festool quick clamps in the profile ?  I found "slot 8" which can have I-Type or B-Type

Andy

Offline ben_r_

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Insane. I just wanna know how much it cost for all those aluminum extrusions!
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