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Offline Slappy

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2013, 06:05 PM »
that is pretty much EXACTLY what I'm looking for! Do you know the part numbers, including the bracket?
here a series #10 dbb  bearing , I have this in my Ebay watch file

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370296695655?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649


there are others with brake holes  but you can drill your own holes in  the bearing housing & then buy the  bearing pads
the  brake kit is here
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/370462529437?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649



really much cheaper to buy parts & do your own assy IMO  as you have to take the thing apart anyway to add a brake
« Last Edit: December 06, 2013, 06:13 PM by Slappy »
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Offline GhostFist

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2013, 06:10 PM »
Thank you  [wink]

Offline Slappy

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2013, 06:15 PM »
as you can see you can make your own brake with a 1/4 "  carriage bolt & a 1/4 x 20 knob , washers
Mike

Offline Slappy

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2013, 06:21 PM »
1/4" carriage bolt's work perfectly in the #10 stuff the square shoulder fits that channel exactly with little or none slop at all   
 so that in it's self saves big bucks over some of the  80/20 hardware .
 I'm gonna line my MFT table with the 1 x 3 #10 rails  so I have one slot up & 3 slots for mounting jigs to the out facing edges
 I seen one guy who mount a vise to the 3 slot side & have it slide the full lenght of his table
Mike

Offline GhostFist

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2013, 06:28 PM »
Hmmmmm removable, repositionable vice..............hmmmmmm

Offline Slappy

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2013, 06:33 PM »
  bearing kit http://www.ebay.com/itm/330660922699?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649





drill guide for centered holes in the slot & for access holes to tighten bolts  you can get different guides for different drills to fit this IIRC

 
great tool I bought one myself

http://www.ebay.com/itm/330294772375?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649


Mike

Offline CarolinaNomad

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2013, 06:37 PM »
The reason why I went with 8020, was not only could I make it customized to me.  But, I could add to it.  And one of my thoughts were to add the incra LS positioner at some point down the road.  My thought would be to create the Incra LS Super system similar to the you tube video below.  Hopefully, I can explain this, taking your idea of having the incra to float vertically.  I would put a linear bearing on each side of the table and have a low profile Aluminum extrusion extending across connecting to the linear bearings.  The Incra LS Positioner would sit on the low profile.  I'm basically creating the super system out of 8020.  Does this make since?



Jeff
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Offline Slappy

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2013, 06:44 PM »
The reason why I went with 8020, was not only could I make it customized to me.  But, I could add to it.  And one of my thoughts were to add the incra LS positioner at some point down the road.  My thought would be to create the Incra LS Super system similar to the you tube video below.  Hopefully, I can explain this, taking your idea of having the incra to float vertically.  I would put a linear bearing on each side of the table and have a low profile Aluminum extrusion extending across connecting to the linear bearings.  The Incra LS Positioner would sit on the low profile.  I'm basically creating the super system out of 8020.  Does this make since?




perfect sense to me  the only issue would be getting both sides locked down as square  , but you could just set that up as using a large WoodPecker square & then tighten down the 80/20 bearings .
 I got my 32" Incra LS 2 days ago playing around with the positionable possibilities is giving me headache  L O L
Mike

Offline CarolinaNomad

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2013, 06:53 PM »
Good point.  Didn't think of that, but once you place the material plus a 1/8" spacer, lock it down.  That should work.

I haven't purchased any linear bearings yet.  So I'm not sure if there will be room on the top of the 8020 for the linear bearing to glide along the top and not interfere with the table top.  I'm wondering if there needs to be a gap between the 8020 rail and the table top.

Slappy, do you have plans to do the above idea with your new Incra Positioner?  Somebody has to be the adventurer. 

Jeff
Jeff
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Offline GhostFist

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2013, 07:02 PM »
Carolina, how wide are you intending to have your table?

Offline Slappy

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2013, 07:06 PM »
Still tossing ideas thru my head , one idea had me being able to drop the table surface down by a inch or two on the 3 way rail  & then place the bearings on top & they'd be clear to slide , till I get start getting the thing assembled that's a un-tested idea but I don't see why it wouldn't work
 I bought on auction  46  of the 1" x 1" #10 angles that in theroy I could use to supprt the surface  & the just move them down to the lowest slot when I wanted to drop the tables surface  
 there's another auction for those again right now  they cost about $3 each outta the Ebay store  , I think I paid about a buck each with the auction  .
 BUT you could make them easy on a drillpress & chopsaw with some angle AL stock as well

 each http://www.ebay.com/itm/370128461860?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

auction http://www.ebay.com/itm/80-20-T-Slot-Aluminum-10-Series-2-Hole-Slotted-Corner-Bracket-4265-TF-Lot-F-40pc-/190990724114?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c77ef2c12

Mike

Offline Slappy

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2013, 07:16 PM »
you'd want the slotted ones so if the MDF moves due to expansion any it would still be lined up I figure .
Mike

Offline CarolinaNomad

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2013, 08:35 PM »
Carolina, how wide are you intending to have your table?

I thought really hard about that question.  I want to cross cut a full sheet of plywood.  But I only need a 48" cross cut capacity just for those occasions.  But after seeing Ron Paulk's video of him cross cutting a full sheet, I decided I didn't need the width/depth.  I would put the fence on my side and add a jig on the other side that would extend the cross cutting capacity very similar to Ron Paulk's by use of either a rail dog or a the Paulks jigsaw stop.

So, the dimensions of the table top is 28" x 45".  28" so it will fit through doors (MFTC). And 45" similar to the MFT/3.  I mean, no matter what, I like having a table the size of Ron Paulk's.  That's why I'm building three MFTCs.

I purchased Ron Paulks plans.  And I might build it someday when I actually get a crew of workers.  Man, my list of things to do keeps growing.
Jeff
resides in NAINA

Offline Sean KS

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2013, 02:26 AM »
Here's my solution to the height issue. Move the work piece and not the rail. I was going to do an incra adjuster in the gap between bench slabs but opted to build my own micro adjuster in the end. The thin 80/20 this acts as a table saw fence linked to the micro adjuster. Alignment is done with custom dogs that John at Tool Improvements milled for me yesterday.

Offline GhostFist

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2013, 12:39 PM »
That is one sweet bench, I was following your thread on building it, closely. Awesome to see all the different approaches to bench design. Sean, would kill to see some video of you using the features on your bench as it's quite unique.

Offline CarolinaNomad

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2013, 01:24 PM »
That is one sweet bench, I was following your thread on building it, closely. Awesome to see all the different approaches to bench design. Sean, would kill to see some video of you using the features on your bench as it's quite unique.

I second the video.
Jeff
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Offline CarolinaNomad

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2013, 05:36 PM »
Slappy, show some pics of your work bench.  Maybe we can help.  Or at the very least, make it more confusing.
Jeff
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Offline Slappy

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2013, 06:01 PM »
 It's all in pieces still  [embarassed]  
 I've got 2 8 foot sections of 1 x 3" 80/20  
2 48" sections of 1 x 3
 4 sections 1 x 1 80/20 a mess of angles & joining plates
 a sheet of HDF ,
 the Incra  LS 32"  & the whole fence,wonder fence & all the attachments ,
 a Jessem slide & glide miter ,
  various AL plates ,
 6 sets of bearings ,
 Incra router lift ,
PC 3 1/4hp router motor ,
 various Incra D/C parts
 2 boxes of 80/20 parts & rails I haven't even opened yet
 a new MFT replacement top ( that gonna be used as a template used to cut holes in the HDF  )
 yet to order some sheets of Formica to laminate the top

So I'm still at the planning stages ATM  once I get everything opened up & then laid out
 I post some pix  then
« Last Edit: December 07, 2013, 06:08 PM by Slappy »
Mike

Offline GhostFist

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2013, 06:42 PM »
Sweet

Offline John1102

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2014, 11:58 AM »
awesome design and idea for 8020 usage.  I have an 8020 DIY MFT table and am thinking about adding something like this, thanks for the photos. 

John

Offline rst

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2014, 08:12 PM »
8020 is great about sending catalogs, they are the worlds best tinker-toy supplier and the idea booklets they send have great pictures of customer designs. 

Offline CarolinaNomad

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #51 on: May 10, 2014, 12:04 AM »
Snappy must be close to finishing with his 80/20 build.
Jeff
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Offline VW MICK

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2014, 03:20 AM »
thanks guys really helpfull tread

now ive a million new ideas for the bench im building at the moment .it just keeps getting more complicated

can someone tell me the spacing  the 2no T tracks would need to be in the front edge .as i was only going to use one but think ill add another for ...future use

Offline VW MICK

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2014, 05:06 PM »
Right have spent a couple of hours looking at this stuff

Need some 80/20  80/10 now

Anyone know of a uk supplier ..everything I've looked at seems to be in dollars

Offline Sean KS

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2014, 05:25 PM »
Try boch rexroth for your side of the pond

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2014, 05:35 PM »

Offline Davej

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #56 on: May 11, 2014, 02:41 AM »
Try motedis.co.uk or kjn .both do similar products , motedis are cheaper
Dave
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Offline shed9

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #57 on: May 11, 2014, 06:04 AM »
Try motedis.co.uk or kjn .both do similar products , motedis are cheaper
Dave

I can second KJN, I've used them for about £3k's worth of profile and they were professional at every turn. I had some damage to some bits in transit once and replacements were in the system within hours of me telling them.

Got my own builds in progress, will get a thread up soon to share info.

Offline dgruening

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Re: 80/20 design help
« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2017, 12:05 PM »
Snappy must be close to finishing with his 80/20 build.

Certainly by now Snappy must have this whole thing put together?