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Offline DIY WoodWerx

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80/20 Parallel Guides
« on: April 10, 2018, 04:53 PM »
Made a set of parallel guides out of 80/20
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Offline cubevandude

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2018, 08:27 PM »
They look pretty nice.  Any chance you can supply a list of part numbers you used?
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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2018, 08:34 PM »
pretty nice idea.
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Offline DIY WoodWerx

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2018, 08:43 PM »
Quote from: cubevandude on April 10, 2018, 08:27 PM
They look pretty nice.  Any chance you can supply a list of part numbers you used?

(2) 3356 - used to attach guides to rail
(2) 4165 -
(2) 4167
(2) 2012 - 24” length
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Offline ben_r_

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2018, 09:23 PM »
Quote from: DIY WoodWerx on April 10, 2018, 08:43 PM
Quote from: cubevandude on April 10, 2018, 08:27 PM
They look pretty nice.  Any chance you can supply a list of part numbers you used?

(2) 3356 - used to attach guides to rail
(2) 4165 -
(2) 4167
(2) 2012 - 24” length

Whats the total cost of that parts list?
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Offline DIY WoodWerx

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2018, 06:37 AM »
Quote from: ben_r_ on April 10, 2018, 09:23 PM
Quote from: DIY WoodWerx on April 10, 2018, 08:43 PM
Quote from: cubevandude on April 10, 2018, 08:27 PM
They look pretty nice.  Any chance you can supply a list of part numbers you used?

(2) 3356 - used to attach guides to rail
(2) 4165 -
(2) 4167
(2) 2012 - 24” length

Whats the total cost of that parts list?

Around $40 plus some 1/4-20 screws of choice.  I had some laying around.
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Offline egtlover74

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2018, 03:26 PM »
What kind of screw is the chrome thumb screws?  They look awsome. [cool] I was just looking at seneca jig for $120 plus dollars
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Offline DIY WoodWerx

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2018, 03:28 PM »
Quote from: egtlover74 on April 11, 2018, 03:26 PM
What kind of screw is the chrome thumb screws?  They look awsome. [cool] I was just looking at seneca jig for $120 plus dollars

1/4-20 x 1/2” knurled thumb screw.  I believe I got 10 pieces for $9 on eBay
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Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2018, 03:48 PM »
Nice looking parallel guides and for a very affordable price.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't look like you can make any cuts narrower than the the width of the track.  Is that correct?
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Offline DIY WoodWerx

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2018, 05:15 PM »
Quote from: GoingMyWay on April 11, 2018, 03:48 PM
Nice looking parallel guides and for a very affordable price.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't look like you can make any cuts narrower than the the width of the track.  Is that correct?

That’s correct.  Seems to be the downside I’ve noticed so far.  Might utilize the LR32 guide stops for narrow cuts.  Have to test it out.
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Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2018, 09:54 PM »
Somewhere I have an old rip guide setup doc that shows how to create a spacer of the same thickness material as what's being cut to let you cut stock narrower than the guide rail.

All you do is set the stops tight against the guide rail bracket & then cut your spacer material. Next move the stops left to the width of the part you want to cut and using the spacer cut your stock. Presto, narrow stock guide, save the spacer for later use.

Will try to find the setup guide and post it. (EDIT: Posted below)

RMW

PS - nice job on the guides, I like that they are totally DIY and don't require any machining.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2018, 10:15 PM by Richard/RMW »
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Offline DIY WoodWerx

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2018, 09:56 PM »
Quote from: Richard/RMW on April 11, 2018, 09:54 PM
Somewhere I have an old rip guide setup doc that shows how to create a spacer of the same thickness material as what's being cut to let you cut stock narrower than the guide rail.

All you do is set the stops tight against the guide rail bracket & then cut your spacer material. Next move the stops left to the width of the part you want to cut and using the spacer cut your stock. Presto, narrow stock guide, save the spacer for later use.

Will try to find the setup guide and post it.


RMW

PS - nice job on the guides, I like that they are totally DIY and don't require any machining.

That would be cool.  Thanks
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Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2018, 10:14 PM »
Quote from: DIY WoodWerx on April 11, 2018, 09:56 PM
Quote from: Richard/RMW on April 11, 2018, 09:54 PM
Somewhere I have an old rip guide setup doc that shows how to create a spacer of the same thickness material as what's being cut to let you cut stock narrower than the guide rail.

All you do is set the stops tight against the guide rail bracket & then cut your spacer material. Next move the stops left to the width of the part you want to cut and using the spacer cut your stock. Presto, narrow stock guide, save the spacer for later use.

Will try to find the setup guide and post it.


RMW

PS - nice job on the guides, I like that they are totally DIY and don't require any machining.

That would be cool.  Thanks

Found it. Geeze I've got a lot of junk on my computer.

Now I recall this started as a calibration cut & then I realized I had made a spacer. Hope it's of some use.

RMW
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Offline cubevandude

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2018, 11:31 AM »
After looking at the INCRA 24 T-TRACK in the instructions provided  this track would allow one to make narrow rips as it has the t-track facing both ways.
One could possibly use this bracket to attach: https://8020.net/shop/4150.html
« Last Edit: April 12, 2018, 11:39 AM by cubevandude »
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Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2018, 12:52 PM »
Quote from: Richard/RMW on April 11, 2018, 10:14 PM
Found it. Geeze I've got a lot of junk on my computer.

Now I recall this started as a calibration cut & then I realized I had made a spacer. Hope it's of some use.

RMW

Thanks for sharing this!  I have the Precision Parallel Guides, which have a spacer that slides under the track.  Your PDF peeked my interest and got me to thinking about my Precision Parallel Guides.  I took another look at the manual and discovered that I somehow missed the part that says the spacer is optional and can be removed.  Without the spacer they'll work just like you've shown in your PDF.

I'm not crazy about how the spacer goes under the track so I'm going to try using them without the spacer and see how that works out.
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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2018, 05:45 PM »
Another byproduct of using the spacer is that the guide rail is fully supported during the cut. I believe all the aftermarket guides have the same issue where the rail needs to be supported when making narrow cuts.

RMW
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Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2018, 06:29 PM »
Having the rail full supported is very nice indeed!
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Offline box185

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Re: 80/20 Parallel Guides
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2018, 11:08 PM »
Quote from: Richard/RMW on April 12, 2018, 05:45 PM
Another byproduct of using the spacer is that the guide rail is fully supported during the cut. I believe all the aftermarket guides have the same issue where the rail needs to be supported when making narrow cuts.

RMW

I like this idea - thank you for sharing your guide, and pointing out the benefit of having the guide supported.
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