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An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« on: March 01, 2010, 11:06 AM »
Ok, so I have to say that I'm a little disappointed that no one has mentioned this from SysNotes February 2010  [sad]  Here's the article:

We talk a lot about how Festool designs its products to integrate as a system. Well, these two router tips are the result of having components that work as a system. Because it is a system, accessories and tools can be combined in creative ways that most people have never thought about.

Use rods for the OF 1400 and OF 2200 routers along with two parallel edge guides to create an alternative to the template routing aid (as featured above). Since our routers feature center line marks on the router base, simply scribe a center line on the material and align the center line mark for perfect results. Need additional fence height for more stability? Well, you can replace the fence surfaces on the parallel edge guide with taller material very easily for additional support with the removable screws.


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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2010, 11:19 AM »
Haven't gotten to the sysnotes yet. However that is an AWESOME solution. I also like the significant $savings!!!

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2010, 11:52 AM »
Thank you for publishing photos of this set up! You certainly didn't have to do that, as Festool would make more money selling the plexiglass jig.




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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2010, 11:53 AM »
Hmmm, I haven't received an edition of Sysnotes since Dec.
Do I need to sign up again?
Where?

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2010, 11:57 AM »
Michael, I just checked and your email address is in our system and it shows that SysNotes was sent to you on Friday.  Strangely, Andreas reported not receiving it either.  If anyone else feels like they did not receive SysNotes but should have, please let me know. I will contact our email distribution provider to see if they were experiencing issues.

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2010, 12:08 PM »
Thank you for publishing photos of this set up! You certainly didn't have to do that, as Festool would make more money selling the plexiglass jig.

Andreas, this doesn't mean that the Plexiglas template does not have it's advantages.  There are measurement guides on it and it has integrated dust extraction to name a few.  But, there are some people who don't need those advantages or may never use it enough to justify the cost. This offers a simple alternative for those folks. 

I thought it was pretty cool.  [cool]

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2010, 12:09 PM »
The most recent SysNotes I've received was the Dec 2009 edition.
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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2010, 12:20 PM »
Michael, I just checked and your email address is in our system and it shows that SysNotes was sent to you on Friday.  Strangely, Andreas reported not receiving it either.  If anyone else feels like they did not receive SysNotes but should have, please let me know. I will contact our email distribution provider to see if they were experiencing issues.

Thanks,
Shane

Thanks for checking Shane. I found the Feb edition in the Spam folder.
If there was a Jan edition I probably bulk deleted it.

Did you change email shippers after December?

Also, could you post a notice when the next edition goes out so we can check
and prevent it from drowning in Spam?

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2010, 12:23 PM »
Michael, there was no January issue of SysNotes.  There was no change in email distribution provider.  And, yes, I'd be happy to let everyone know when the next one goes out.

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2010, 12:52 PM »
Shane,

I did not receive the Feb Sysnotes either.   The last one I have is Decembers.

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 01:23 PM »

... Use rods for the OF 1400 and OF 2200 routers along with two parallel edge guides to create an alternative to the template routing aid (as featured above). Since our routers feature center line marks on the router base, simply scribe a center line on the material and align the center line mark for perfect results. Need additional fence height for more stability? Well, you can replace the fence surfaces on the parallel edge guide with taller material very easily for additional support with the removable screws.


There were actually TWO very good router tips in this issue of SysNotes. One I had seen here on the FOG quite a while back, and the other on talkFestool last December (photo below).

Put a Festool in the hands of a good woodworker, and watch how many good ideas spring up. Less creative folks like myself need only to make sure we hang out in the right places.  [big grin]


 

 
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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 05:54 PM »
This was also the first sysnotes a have received since Dec.  Thought it was just me.

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2010, 09:06 PM »
I understand the "double edge guide" have made a kluge for the same purpose.  My concern is that when the workpiece is narrow, e.g one inch wide that the router can tip/tilt a little due to flexing of the 8 mm rods which is not likely to be a problem with Festool's dedicated heavy walled plastic accessory.  Has anyone tried the double edge guide for machining a dovetail slot on the edge of a workpiece that is one inch thick?

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2010, 01:47 AM »
This doesn't work for the 1010?

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2010, 09:03 AM »
This doesn't work for the 1010?

Technically, the rods are just barely long enough to do this but the fence on the parallel guide is also not as high.  So, it's not recommended for the 1010.

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2010, 10:26 PM »
Sorry to wander a bit but I am wondering where to subscribe to the sysnotes?   ???
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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2010, 10:32 PM »
You can sign up for Sysnotes, our email newsletter, on the home page of the Festool USA website. You can also email me directly and I'll make sure you get signed up.  Thanks!

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2010, 05:59 AM »
I like the idea of using 2 parallel edge guides as an alternative to the plexiglas thing. To be honest I've allways found that plexiglas routing guide to be much too expensive.  [crying]

The tilting issue mentioned in this thread I would simply fix by replacing the black plastic surfaces on the parrallel guides with som larger plexiglas plates.

But when I'm scrolling trough my danish version of the Festool catalogue I cant' find the OF1400 parallel guide spare part number, and I can't find it in Festools online catalogue either. Is it because it is the same parallel guide as for one of their other routers...or should I just open my eyes a little bit wider [eek] in my search for the parts number ???

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2010, 07:40 AM »
Henrik,

I took a look at the Danish catalog and didn't see it either.

However the part number should be 492636. 

I looked up all the other guides for the other routers in both the Danish and the US catalogs and the part numbers are the same between the two countries, so...

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2010, 08:18 AM »
Shane,

I somehow missed that one too.   Great idea, but depressing.   This, like so many of the other ideas that have been shared are so obvious once I see them that I just don't understand why I never thought of it :-(

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2010, 08:57 AM »
But when I'm scrolling trough my danish version of the Festool catalogue I cant' find the OF1400 parallel guide spare part number, and I can't find it in Festools online catalogue either. Is it because it is the same parallel guide as for one of their other routers...or should I just open my eyes a little bit wider [eek] in my search for the parts number ???

I took a look at the Danish catalog and didn't see it either.

However the part number should be 492636. 

I've just checked the Festool UK printed catalogue and the parallel side fence isn't shown as an accessory there either, however I think it's because it's included in the two OF1400 packages offered in the UK and therefore Festool doesn't feel that it needs to be listed as an optional accessory. Here's what's in these two packages, according to www.festool.co.uk:

OF 1400 EBQ-Plus GB 240V in a SYSTAINER, 367,00 GBP, Order number: 574410:
Scope of delivery:
-    ? 8 mm clamping collet
-    ? 12 mm clamping collet
-    ? 1/2" (12.7 mm) clamping collet
-    parallel side fence with fine adjustment and extraction hood
-    copying ring ? 30 mm
-    extraction hood, top
-    chip deflector
-    operation tool

OF 1400 EQ-Plus GB 110V in a SYSTAINER, 367,00 GBP, Order number: 574409:
Scope of delivery:
-    ? 8 mm clamping collet
-    ? 12 mm clamping collet
-    ? 1/2" (12.7 mm) clamping collet
-    parallel side fence with fine adjustment and extraction hood
-    copying ring ? 30 mm
-    extraction hood, top
-    chip deflector
-    operation tool
   
The same seems to apply to the Danish website - here is the contents list of the OF1400 from www.festool.dk (which includes a free box of router bits at the moment):

Overfr?ser OF 1400 EBQ-Plus+Box-OF-S 8/10x HW, Bestillingsnummer: 574316:
Leveringsomfang:
-    spaendetang ? 8 mm
-    spaendetang ? 12 mm
-   sideanslag med finindstilling og udsugningskappe
-    kopiring ? 30 mm
-    udsugningskappe, ?vre
-   spanfanger
-    fraeserboks
-   betjeningsvaerktoj


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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2010, 01:22 PM »
Hi again...and thank you for replying.

Peter, thanks for the part number. My local dealer could probably also help me with that number...and of course tell me the price on the part.
But everything is closed here in Denmark during the Easter, so I tried to find the information myself and was a bit puzzled not finding the item in either the printed catalogue or in  the online spare part catalogue.

Forrest, the "danish" set you are listing is exactly the set I've bought ...just without the free router bits [big grin].

Henrik

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2011, 03:37 PM »
Has anyone done this with the the OF 1010? I have two doors that require Mortices - I don't own a OF 1400 or 22OO.  It looks like it would work  and I have some longer roods so I would just need to get another guide.

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2011, 03:43 PM »
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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2017, 01:14 PM »
Bumping an old thread, but this is such a great idea its worth it! I was looking into the Plexiglass Template but really couldnt get past the $350 price tag for some milled plastic. I like the idea of buying another $80 edge guide much better.


Are all the SysNotes archived anywhere else these days? I couldnt find the one mentioned in this thread.
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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2017, 02:45 PM »
Here is a link to the old article mentioned, as per @Bob D.
http://web.archive.org/web/20130210194113/http://blog.festoolusa.com/post/2010/02/01/Cool-Festool-router-techniques-youve-probably-never-considered.aspx
Using guide rail adapter as an outrigger for edge routing will cause the router to tilt. The adapter is designed to ride on top of 5 mm thick rail and its bottom is not coplanar with router base. You'll need to attach a spacer to the adapter.

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2017, 04:27 AM »
Using guide rail adapter as an outrigger for edge routing will cause the router to tilt. The adapter is designed to ride on top of 5 mm thick rail and its bottom is not coplanar with router base. You'll need to attach a spacer to the adapter.

Not sure that's right.  The guide rail adapter is co-planar with the standard router base, the adapter and router are designed to both sit on the rail.  They won't be co-planar if you use a base widener however.

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Re: An alternative to the Plexiglas template routing aid
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2017, 05:08 AM »
Using guide rail adapter as an outrigger for edge routing will cause the router to tilt. The adapter is designed to ride on top of 5 mm thick rail and its bottom is not coplanar with router base. You'll need to attach a spacer to the adapter.

Not sure that's right.  The guide rail adapter is co-planar with the standard router base, the adapter and router are designed to both sit on the rail.  They won't be co-planar if you use a base widener however.
I stand corrected.