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Hey Guys, Well, after much research, I bought the Clear Vue Mini CV06 from Ed, at www.clearvuecyclones.com. Actually, I bought two, one for another use. After talking to Oneida, and realizing I would have to use reducers to fit hoses to the Dust Deputy, I called Ed. He informed me of the sizes, I measured, and the Festool hose fit perfect. The large Festool Hose supplied with the boom arm, fits perfectly into the top of the Cyclone, and a standard shop vac hose, fits into the suction port perfectly (no adaptors needed). I mounted it to a 14 gallon open head, plastic medical transport barrel that has a seal and locking ring on top. I will post pics in the morning (camera batteries charging). Things I discovered...... -CT33 at full suction will collapse this 1/8" thick wall barrel if using small diameter Festool hose supplied with your CT. At lowest suction setting collapse was gone. I will fit it to a steel 16 gallon barrel on Monday. But for now -I want to operate this thing at full suction power, so........... -Needing to plane some 10/4, 1/4 sawn white oak at a friends house.... I loaded up my CT33, DW735 Planer, Barrel and cyclone. Turns out oak is 8" wide and 10' long, and their are 8 pieces of it!! It was raining outside, so we opted to do it in his garage, connected Cyclone to CT33, and his Craftsman shop vac hose to the planer chip chute and intake of cyclone, No adaptors needed. I removed the flex hose from Dewalt planer dust bag and shop vac hose fit it perfectly. Now the good part, Keep in mind, we are in a heated small garage. Installed brand new bag in CT33 Fired everything up, suction on full, planer running, no collapse. Proceeded to plane about half the oak to 1.75" until the barrel filled up. Emptied barrel,(obviously) restarted, and finished planing. The most amazing thing was, This little setup kept us virtually dust free in his garage, Cyclone never plugged, CT33 bag had barely anything in it!! WOW!! I am impressed by this little cyclone!! I will post pics tomorrow Hope this helps anyone wondering how good this idea works. John
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2008, 08:41 PM » |
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Thanks John, I bought the CV06 a few weeks ago to use while routing many feet of 3/4"deep x 7/8" wide dadoes in white oak. I wonder if Ed has ever used a Festool on the CV06 himself? I first crushed a rubbermaid Brute can in no time, though it worked until the can just gave it up.  Then I figured I should try the old stand by metal trash can Ed shows his larger cyclones attached to. The CT33 pulled in the seams of the metal can in no time. I'm about to try another container I found, wish me luck. So far none have been worthy of the CT33 power. Maybe between the two of us we can find something that will work. It is so cool to not need bags. I had been filling a bag tight with under 100' of this dadoe routing. Now the bag is just an air filter. Fact is though it's also cool to see the cans just give it up. You should see the metal trash can by now. I've wrapped it in so much duct tape it looks mummified. It still works though, unless the hose catches my pant leg or floor. Pathetic little can.  How about a missile casing? 
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2008, 08:47 PM » |
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John, It's my duty to inform you that you are in violation of FOG ordinance 140.3.1, Subsection 12, paragraph 4. It reads: "All ungodly claims of superior performance, awesome new jigs, great projects, etcetera, etcetera... blah, blah... MUST be accompanied by appropriate pictorial evidence to prove that said claims did in fact occur!!!" As your humble servant and FOG picture cop (aka FPC), I'll let you off just this once with subtle warning:   Regards, Dan.
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2008, 08:59 PM » |
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Great, Busted by the picture cops. I'll find the photos & produce them for FOG. I did try to post a video of the Rubbermaid going down, but it wouldn't upload, no videos I think.
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2008, 09:49 PM » |
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I bought the CV06 a few weeks ago......I first crushed a rubbermaid Brute can in no time, .....Then I figured I should try the old stand by metal trash can Ed shows his larger cyclones attached to. The CT33 pulled in the seams of the metal can in no time.
How about cutting a couple of plywood rings to stuff into the can to reinforce it from inside?
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2008, 10:16 PM » |
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Michael. I thought about that, but I think I have a pretty good idea. I will let you know Monday Evening. I will upload pictures in the morning, I really stink at uploading pictures, It'll probably take me longer than building the cyclone !!  Thanks John
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2008, 10:39 PM » |
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John, Glad you asked... (Actually you didn't ask, but I'm a pushy bugger.) It just so happens that your faithful picture cop (along with the valuable contributions of other pic lovers) has written a tutorial on the ways and means of uploading pics: http://festoolownersgroup.com/index.php?topic=292.0It covers several topics, but this one covers uploading pics quick and easy: http://festoolownersgroup.com/index.php?topic=287.0. Regards, Dan.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2008, 08:52 AM » |
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OK Guys, Here's a link to the youtube posting I just made for a video of my wimpy Rubbermaid Brute can under the "Tornado" cyclone.
Man, I hope this works right. I'll get a video of the Galvinized Metal Can collapsing next. BTW, It'll take more than a few rings inside, they'll just poke out like ribs.  Terp
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2008, 09:57 AM » |
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Impressive suction!
Thanks Dan for demanding PICTURES!!!!
Hope someone can find the ideal solution for the collection can. Might have to get this.
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2008, 10:19 AM » |
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Pete, When it's working it's amazing. It really dumps all the waste in the can. Even while the can was collapsing it worked great.  Eventually the seal of the lid breaks & it gives up the suction, yet it took several minutes to get to where it really collapsed. Eventually the Brute got weak & collapsed even quicker. Since this can has now become a recycling bucket I've gotten a ten gallon galvanized metal can. It too is not worthy.  First the seams, not being welded, gave way & peeled. I have since duct taped the bugger. It's been operational this way but it too begins to cave in after some time. It's also pulled the foam gasket in beyond the rim on the can now, so I've taped the lid to the can as well. Yup, it's a nuisance to empty this way, but it's working for several minutes at a clip still. The metal is too thin though. I just purchased a plastic shipping bucket on E-bay. Here's a link to that page. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220213117328&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=012 I hope this works we'll see. The lid will receive a plywood ring on the under side, to mount the CV06 & stiffen the lid. The bucket looks quite stout, yet we'll see.  I'll let ya'all know & try to post video of the wimpy metal can soon.
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2008, 10:50 AM » |
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I posted some pictures of the contraption. Had troubles resizing with this new Mac in iPhoto, so I just posted a link. Trep: I am pretty sure I have a solution to the collapse problem. I will let you know Monday evening. The barrel I used has handles made into it, I thought that would be a plus!!  Dan: Thanks for the picture uploading info. Now, if I can just figure out how to resize in iPhoto I'll be all set
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2008, 11:27 AM » |
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............ Now, if I can just figure out how to resize in iPhoto I'll be all set
FYI - Resize in iPhoto go to File then export Scott W.
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I'll try the File - Export to resize from iPhoto. What I've been doing recently is selecting a group of pics, and then e-mailing to myself! During this process you are prompted for picture size from 5-6 choices. When I receive them as attachments, I then drag them into a new folder. Klutzy, to say the least, but it has been working.
Also, for Mac users, if you aren't using Graphic Converter, I highly recommend it. It costs about $40, but it's been several years so I don't quite remember. Developer updates it often, and unless it is a real major update, they are all free. (I believe I paid about half price for a major update once, over about 5 years.)
GC handles ALL the common graphic formats, and about 20 more that you've never heard of. Good slide shows, graphic effects, etc.
Also, BTW, be very cautious about moving iPhoto folders around!!!!!
I did this to clean up a disk during a backup procedure, and all the folder and album links fall apart. It's a real mess, because when you re-import the pics the new folder dates are TODAY, rather than when you first entered them. Also, it re-imports all the thumbnails, thinking they are new pics, so you have to go through each folder, remove the thumbnails, re-name the folder for the correct date, and then re-import. A huge PITA!
There are ways of doing this correctly. Take my word for it -- it's well worth your time to look this up FIRST.
I believe if you move the entire Pictures folder as one unit you'll be OK, but don't take my word for it. YMMV.
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2008, 02:38 PM » |
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What about using a sys 5 for the can and attaching the cylone to top. That way it would attach to the top of the DC.
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2008, 02:45 PM » |
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What about using a sys 5 for the can and attaching the cylone to top. That way it would attach to the top of the DC.
I ordered a clear vue and I think I will try this great idea Don! I will post pics after I try it out.. nickao
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2008, 03:00 PM » |
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What about using a sys 5 for the can and attaching the cylone to top. That way it would attach to the top of the DC.
I'm really interested to see if the Sys 5 implodes, but not enough to pay for one myself. Let us know how it goes. Ned
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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2008, 03:11 PM » |
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Thank You Scott & Ed for your help in iPhoto (i knew it had to be easy)  Don & Ned: I am sure the Sys 5 would implode!! It may not crack, but it would distort enough to create blowby. John
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I am going either going to use one or two metal bands around the interior or a 1/2" plywood box within the #5. Either should do it.
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2008, 03:14 PM » |
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I think the sys 5 would be easy to reinforce. I would also get the foam insert for the lid of the sys, like the one that comes with the sys 1 box so the screws stay put.
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Actually I am going to go with the 1/2" ply box liner that can be pulled right out easily. Do you think the box need be 3/4"?
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No, I'm sure 1/2" would be plenty. That's a good idea.
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Why not simply buy a metal drum that is intended for use as a dust bin for a cyclone? I have no problems using my CT 22 (same CFM and static suction as CT 33) with any hose, and no problems if that inlet hose is blocked thus creating putting maximum vacuum within my Dust Deputy system. Their metal drum is smaller than the blue medical waste drum tested in the above posts. Have you considered use of a section of heavy walled tube that is used for winding carpeting, combined with a pair of shop-made ends of plywood sealed with closed cell foam tape set into a shallow routed groove?
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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2008, 03:59 PM » |
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I think the top not being flat is a problem. You need a flat surface to attach the CV06 to, at least an 8" diameter or so, & you'll bore a 2-1/2" hole in the center for the cyclone bottom. With out a flat top I don't see how. Even a plywood top would allow to much leakage. Also, by lining the box you're losing alot of volume, why do that. Don't try this with just the box as it will implode, seriously. How about just building a plywood box using baltic birch, this way the Domino can be employed. I'm considering this as a last resort though since it seems like more work than I have the time for now. I'll try one more trash can or so for now.
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I agree but I just want to play around and make it work. I like the fact that the Festool box will plain look cool! If I wanted just a ply box to look at I could come up with a lot of better ways to do it.
Same idea as a lot of guys on the forum going through all these procedures with the MFT and and squaring this or that. There are a million better ways to do stuff and 90% of the time I think why not use the table saw. It's because they want to test the capabilities and stretch the limit of the tool.
I could use a black marker to mark all my cases. It is a lot simpler than what a lot of the guys have done to get the labels on the cases to stay, using plastic etc.
The point being I just want to test the setup with the Festool systainer.
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Why not simply buy a metal drum that is intended for use as a dust bin for a cyclone? I have no problems using my CT 22 (same CFM and static suction as CT 33) with any hose, and no problems if that inlet hose is blocked thus creating putting maximum vacuum within my Dust Deputy system. Their metal drum is smaller than the blue medical waste drum tested in the above posts. Have you considered use of a section of heavy walled tube that is used for winding carpeting, combined with a pair of shop-made ends of plywood sealed with closed cell foam tape set into a shallow routed groove?
Dave R.
Have not tried making a drum Dave but I think it would suck the foam out of the seam no matter what you do. The CFM is real strong, & as soon as there is a slight leak it pulls in stronger in that area, like a flood gate. Perhaps a caulk sealant would do best. I'm hesitant to build anything experimental right now as this is getting to be trying. I will go to a steel drum, but not a 55 gal., so I'll need to search for one. I might try a fiber drum with steel rings top & bottom, though not to tall. As soon as the opposite sides begin to pull in its over. The container will fold flat, if any leak develops in it down low. The white bucket I found on E-bay may work, I'll see. I like the moulded rings in the body. The guy says they were used to ship water, so I know they must be strong enough for that. At least they won't explode with volume pressure, I'll find out about imploding under negative pressure. They are only 22" tall & 20" wide, so if the wall thickness is good I think it'll work.
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I agree but I just want to play around and make it work. I like the fast that the Festool box will plain look cool! If I wanted just a ply box to look at I could come up with a lot of better ways to do it.
Same idea as a lot of guys on the forum going through all these procedures with the MFT and and squaring this or that. There are a milliopn better ways to do stuff and 90% of the time I think why not use the table saw. It's because they want to test the capabilities and stretch the limit of the tool.
I could use a black marker to mark all my cases. It is a lot simpler than what a lot of the guys have done to get the labels on the cases to stay, using plastic etc.
The point being I just want to test the setup with the Festool systainer.
Good luck, Why not just use a hammer on your Systainer if you want to do this to it so badly. Same results.  Try lining it, I'm curious about the volume though, so fill us in on that. How will you work with the leaky top situation as it will not mate up well? If you do build a plywood box alone, you can paint it to match a systainer. Latches are not needed either as you can not pick the lid up off the container you make. Oh & if you don't like the voice of reason, turn off the forum, go blow up your container & tell us about it later. 
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Why not simply buy a metal drum that is intended for use as a dust bin for a cyclone? I have no problems using my CT 22 (same CFM and static suction as CT 33) with any hose, and no problems if that inlet hose is blocked thus creating putting maximum vacuum within my Dust Deputy system. Their metal drum is smaller than the blue medical waste drum tested in the above posts. Have you considered use of a section of heavy walled tube that is used for winding carpeting, combined with a pair of shop-made ends of plywood sealed with closed cell foam tape set into a shallow routed groove?
Dave R.
Have not tried making a drum Dave but I think it would suck the foam out of the seam no matter what you do. The CFM is real strong, & as soon as there is a slight leak it pulls in stronger in that area, like a flood gate. Perhaps a caulk sealant would do best. I'm hesitant to build anything experimental right now as this is getting to be trying. I will go to a steel drum, but not a 55 gal., so I'll need to search for one. I might try a fiber drum with steel rings top & bottom, though not to tall. As soon as the opposite sides begin to pull in its over. The container will fold flat, if any leak develops in it down low. The white bucket I found on E-bay may work, I'll see. I like the moulded rings in the body. The guy says they were used to ship water, so I know they must be strong enough for that. At least they won't explode with volume pressure, I'll find out about imploding under negative pressure. They are only 22" tall & 20" wide, so if the wall thickness is good I think it'll work. I was thinking of use of adhesive backed foam tape, which would also be compressed in the groove to keep it in place. The primary purpose of the adhesive is to hold the tape in place when you remove the lid. The base can be sealed to the cylinder section with silicone caulk. That is what Oneida provides with its commercial duty machines (I know because I have one and assembled it last Fall.) Here's another possibility - start with one of those plastic pails in which drywall compound comes (only about 5 gal capacity!). Since these pails have a slight taper from top to bottom, you can reinforce the interior using a pair or more of plywood rings that you simply slip into the pail to increase its resistance to collapse. Dave R.
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Terp, You have some very good points. Getting the lid off or out of the way to get the container emptied would be a pain. I not so sure the Systainer would collapse especially with the box inside. The idea was to get a container that attaches to the DC to keep the unit mobile. If you use any size drum that is not attached it will become a hassle to move around. I had thought about the top not being flat enough and sealing tight enough, but what if you made a plywood top that had a 1/2" wide groove cut in the size of the Systainer. The center of the groove would be the size of the Systainer then in that groove install a rubber seal. For clamping that top to the Systainer I would use a draw latch Draw Latch and the latch could catch on the tabs for the standard lid latch.
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I agree but I just want to play around and make it work. I like the fast that the Festool box will plain look cool! If I wanted just a ply box to look at I could come up with a lot of better ways to do it.
Same idea as a lot of guys on the forum going through all these procedures with the MFT and and squaring this or that. There are a milliopn better ways to do stuff and 90% of the time I think why not use the table saw. It's because they want to test the capabilities and stretch the limit of the tool.
I could use a black marker to mark all my cases. It is a lot simpler than what a lot of the guys have done to get the labels on the cases to stay, using plastic etc.
The point being I just want to test the setup with the Festool systainer.
Good luck, Why not just use a hammer on your Systainer if you want to do this to it so badly. Same results.  Try lining it, I'm curious about the volume though, so fill us in on that. How will you work with the leaky top situation as it will not mate up well? If you do build a plywood box alone, you can paint it to match a systainer. Latches are not needed either as you can not pick the lid up off the container you make. Oh & if you don't like the voice of reason, turn off the forum, go blow up your container & tell us about it later.  I think a picture of a blown up systainer would be awesome!
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John, Terp, Many thanks for the efforts. I can now award you the coveted and oh-ficial:  Regards, Dan.
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