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Offline DynaGlide

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Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« on: October 24, 2018, 10:34 AM »
I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed already:

http://ramonvaldezfinefurniture.com/shop/



He's been showing it off on his IG account the past few weeks @ramonartful . Already shipped close to 100 according to him. Thoughts?

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Offline Koamolly

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2018, 12:14 PM »
You think the 700 jig can be clamped vertically to a tabletop like the 500 jig?

Offline Svar

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2018, 01:20 PM »
I'll pass. Looks awkward to use. No registration, just eyeball, clamp, and plunge? Hardly an improvement over Festool narrow stock attachment.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2018, 01:22 PM by Svar »

Offline rmhinden

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2018, 01:26 PM »
I'll pass. Looks awkward to use. No registration, just eyeball, clamp, and plunge?

From watching the video, it looks like one clamps it to the bench, then clamp the stock to the DF700.  I would assume you would also use the Domino Trim Stop for registration.
Bob

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2018, 01:38 PM »
Snip.
 I would assume you would also use the Domino Trim Stop for registration.

Am I missing something? If one has a trim stop, why does one need to use that jig?

For narrow stock, I use the Trim Stop which is not too much more expensive (than the shop-made jig at $65 (plus shipping?)), but is more efficient and precise in mortising endgrain. The trim stop requires no clamping, and is done horizontally rather than vertically which can be awkward and cumbersome for long stock.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2018, 02:56 PM by ChuckM »

Offline blaszcsj

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2018, 01:47 PM »
I bought one when I first saw it on IG. Received it late last week. It is great for batching out small to medium parts and not a bad price considering material cost and having to figure it all out to fit right. Bonus: it is lacquer finished, something I would not have bothered to do in my shop.

It fits snug in the pocket and allows you to use the domino in an efficient and stable way. At least for my work flow I can see numerous benefits.
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Offline TealaG

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2018, 02:16 PM »
blaszcsj - are you doing narrow pieces?  Or what type of "small to medium" parts are you doing?   Someone gave me the link to this item and it's not a bad price, but the video is puzzling.   I guess I'm thinking that it takes alot of time to clamp the workpiece to the domino tool.   Maybe I'm missing something?

Offline Peter Parfitt

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2018, 04:21 PM »
Trim Stop every time - really easy and very accurate and no need for this at all.

Peter

Offline grobkuschelig

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2018, 04:32 PM »
Trim Stop every time...

Peter

What Peter said, 100%

Offline blaszcsj

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2018, 09:15 PM »
Trim Stop every time...

Peter

What Peter said, 100%


Except you don’t have to clamp down the workpiece every time. It’s pretty handy for small pieces.
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Offline ChuckM

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2018, 01:11 AM »
It is still not clear from your latest post how small the pieces you are talking about. With the trim stop, I can handle pieces that are , say, 1" wide and 1" long...you just start with a longer piece and trim it to 1" after the mortising.

Offline Ptk16

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2018, 08:22 AM »
Defintely looks awkward to me. Cool idea...just seems fiddly in practice.

Offline blaszcsj

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2018, 04:48 PM »
I just used mine this weekend. It is super stable because the machine is stationary so I can just work from a stack of wood. I don’t have to clamp and unclamp the clams in MFT.

I would say anything 1”-6” wide and up to about 30” in length
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Offline Rusty Miller

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2018, 08:31 AM »
I'm shocked! This is usually the place for innovative ideas but I guess not anymore.  Ramon comes up with a jig to hold a domino in a secure position and to make it easier to do small parts and some of you think it's a waste.  Have you watched the videos of him using it on his instagram feed?  And yes he also uses it with the trim stop.
Well I love mine and can say I will be using it a lot and with a lot more control of my domino.
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Offline blaszcsj

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2018, 11:52 AM »
I'm shocked! This is usually the place for innovative ideas but I guess not anymore.  Ramon comes up with a jig to hold a domino in a secure position and to make it easier to do small parts and some of you think it's a waste.  Have you watched the videos of him using it on his instagram feed?  And yes he also uses it with the trim stop.
Well I love mine and can say I will be using it a lot and with a lot more control of my domino.

agreed.
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Offline ChuckM

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2018, 12:15 PM »
No need to be shocked as even the Domino joiner is not considered a great idea by many who do loose tenon joinery efficiently with other methods. The jig as presented is just one way of doing things and the trim stop itself is good enough to most users.


Offline Svar

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2018, 12:16 PM »
I'm shocked! This is usually the place for innovative ideas but I guess not anymore.
I'm not shocked. This is also a place for criticism. What's an idea without a healthy doze of criticism?

Offline grobkuschelig

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2018, 12:23 PM »
I have not meant to criticize the idea displayed here.

I applaud the enthusiasm and effort of building tools and jigs to make your work easier.
Especially with the Domino, and with what I use it for, I don’t see the need for this jig.
My needs are covered by what came in the box with mine.

I think sometimes we spend a lot of time and effort „fixing“ things that are not really broken.

If this jig scratches your itch, then you will know so and get great value out of it. :)

Offline ben_r_

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Re: Domino 500/700 narrow stock jigs
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2018, 12:33 PM »
Yea kinda looks like a solution looking for a problem. That and we are all woodworkers here right? This looks like something you could thrown together with some scrap plywood while you're bored in the shop one day. I guess $65 isn't that high of a price but again, it doesn't seem to be fixing a very widespread issue.
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