Hi Scott! I too am very curious about this setup. For a slightly more simple setup, which parts do you think I'd need for connecting a CT-22 to DD using a D50 hose, and running a D36 or D27 hose from DD to tool? Is there a way of doing it so I'm not really modifying the hoses? What I'm getting at is I try to keep my stuff really mobile and modular, so I'm kind of wary of modifying my hoses in such a way that I can't readily use them just with the DD. I'd really like to keep my hoses in their stock configuration, and make any necessary modifications to the DD with reducers, collars, etc... I really appreciate your time on all this, thanks!
---Tom

I'll be receiving my ClearVue during the week and will attempt the SYS-5 container.  Now that the Sys-5 is also on her way, I began thinking of simply using a Sys-1 with the lid removed, and build a container with the SYS-1 as its base -- and doing something else at the top end.  Well, maybe that's what I'll try...

One thing I hope to also try is to place a wannabe cyclone separator in-line before the ClearVue cyclone during heavier operations.  This may allow the separator to remove the chips that seem problematic once they enter the Cyclone.  Anyone try this?  If that would function properly, it would make a nice setup for the planer.

So you'd be using the SYS 1 as the bottom of the container?  Seems an expensive way to get a Systainer-compatible base plate.

OTOH, if there's any size of Systainer you've got extras of, and don't really have any use for, that'd be the #1.   

Ned

Ned, I'll have to agree with you on this...  Even though I have a SYS 5 on the way for this project, after you pointed out an obvious use for a Sys 1 for another use, I got thinking about this application.  But hey, I certainly do appreciate your replies and what ideas and advice you have offered on this forum.  It did make me feel a little stupid for not seeing what should have been obvious, but I've been on either side of that situation, and am all the better for your insight.  Thanks!      - Corwin

The SYS 1, shortest of the standard Systainers at 105mm, about 4 inches, high.

I say it's the one you're most likely to have lying around because sometimes you'll want a bit more room than standard, say for your jigsaw, and pop the insert and tool into a larger Systainer than the tool came in.  If you do this kind of swapping around, it's invariably to a bigger one.  Do this often enough and you run out of uses for the SYS 1 before you run out of SYS 1s.

Ned

Oh OK I'm clued in now. 

That Looks like a Shop Thang...  but if it keeps the dust out of expensive bag its good, I now understand fully why a Systainer 1 would be good. I'm looking for a way to keep the dust off of my table saw on site.

Those tools(5 gallon bucket lid opener, i think) work great.  The only thing is that the more times you use them the lid begins to not bend back to it's original position.  This would probably mean you would need to get replacements every once in awhile?

I take and cut off the "clips" from the bucket on the table saw and it makes it easy to open, don't cut it too high or the lid will not fit snug.

 Michael K,
 


Why not make the bottom of the plywood box slightly larger than the sides and cut notches. If you use 1/2" ply for the bottom it latches to the vac perfectly.

Here's a thread on an adaptor plate ( see picture on post 14).

http://festoolownersgroup.com/index.php?topic=1286.0

Mike C.

To ground my Bosch 4x24 belt sander, I used a short length of small sized flat-braided copper wire.  I secured one end under one of the screws near the power trigger switch; this screw is threaded into the metal frame housing of the machine.  I then wrapped the other end of the braided wire around the DC outlet nipple and forced a Festool 27 mm hose over it.  Absent that ground wire I was getting a near steady stream of tingling shocks from the Festool hose to the back side of my hand that was holding the power trigger switch and gripping the handle of the sander.  Absent that ground, the shocks would start within 10 seconds of powering on the belt sander.  This might be the best demonstration of the value of A/S being designed into the Festool system I have ever experienced.

Dave R.

Tom,

What Scott wrote will work exactly.

Here's another way, if you prefer.

1.  For the DD inlet, remove the vacuum end adapter from a 35mm hose and fit the hose directly to the inlet.  Mine was a snug fit.  I installed the 36 mm hose on the Boom Arm with the tool end fitting intact.

2.  To enable use with Festool products that require a 27mm hose, make an adapter.  All you have to do is fit tool end fittings to both ends of a short piece of 27 mm hose (mine is about 1 foot long).  The tool end fitting of the 27mm hose will fit snugly up inside the tool end fitting of the 36mm hose.

I prefer using the 36mm hose when I can because it is less prone to clogging when using a router (or planer).

3.  If you want to leave the tool end fitting on your 36mm hose, intall a rubber plumbing reducer onto the inlet of the DD, and fit the 36mm hose with fitting into it.

4.  To ensure electrical continuity of the anti-static features of the Festool system  (which my belt sander will prove or disprove real fast!), I installed braided copper wire in direct contact with the metal nipple of the DD inlet running over the outside of the rubber adapter and under the SS screw clamps, and wrapped it so it is wedged between the outside of the vacuum end fitting of the 36mm hose and the inside of the inlet of the rubber plumbing adapter.  As a further precaution, I also extended that grounding wire to the DD end fitting of the 50mm hose (both ends come equipped with vacuum machine end fittings) and wedged it between the fitting on the 50mm hose and the outlet of the DD.  This arrangement also allows me to quickly remove the DD and couple the 50mm and 36mm hoses using a Festool connector.

Dave R.

The thing I don't like about Oneida's Festool Specific Solution is the size. So big. No need, really. I'm thinking of retrofitting a systainer as done in this thread, but smaller. To determine the right size of systainer to repurpose, I did some rough calculations to compare systainer volumes with the CT bags. Here's what I found:

SYS1 (11.7L or 3.1Gal)     :    CT MINI (10L or 2.6 Gal)   
SYS2 (17.6L or 4.6 Gal)    :    CT MIDI (15L or 4.0 Gal)
SYS3 (23.5L or 6.4 Gal)    :    CT 26 (26L or 6.9 Gal)
SYS4 (38.1L or 10.1 Gal)  :    CT 36 (36L or 9.5 Gal)
SYS5 (46.9L or 12.4 Gal)  :    CT 48 (48L or 12.7 Gal)

Basically, a SYS2 comes close to the 5 Gal pail version of the Dust Deputy! That's really slim. While you obviously won't be able to take advantage of the Systainer's entire volume once you build an interior receptacle, the overall volumes are surprisingly close! So a SYS3 with an interior receptacle would probably replicate or expand upon a cumerson 5 Gal pale. This affords people the choice of developing a more low profile chip container, albeit with less capacity.

I checked with Oneida, who confirmed that one can use a smaller size receptacle. The example I used was a shoe box. Now the other interesting thing to note here is that the smaller the size receptacle, the thinner the wall thickness would need to be before crushing would occur. I'm going to start looking around for premade solutions, although I bet a 0.25" finnish plywood would be more than enough to withstand the crushing forces.   I'll also work on ways to use an interior bag to simplify cleanup.

I'll keep updating as I progress down the road with this project. In the meantime, feel free to contact me with any ideas.