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Offline timbertailor

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Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« on: October 06, 2014, 09:28 PM »
Those of you who own this router know that a circle jig is not offered by the mfg for this model router.

Most of the aftermarket designs I looked at required the removal of the base plate.

Not something I wanted to have to do every time I wanted to cut circles. Not to mention, losing my chip collector duty.

This is a very simple design, easy to use, and cost little to nothing to build. The block of Bubinga and Maple was left over from a project my dad worked on. Thought I would repurpose it. It holds the DP track up 1/8"off the work surface to prevent drag while routing.

I found this 1/4" SS pin with a threaded end for the pivot rod. I cut key ways into the pins to tighten and loosen them. I have several lengths for different thickness of wood. I can micro adjust with the Rockler speed clamps, to an extent. The clamps also allow me to cut even the largest of circles by simply swapping out track length or cut circles in tight spaces.

The dual purpose track was left over from my assembly table and router table project.

Hope you like this idea. I apologize if I have posted in the wrong area.

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Offline Don T

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2014, 10:15 PM »
You could have bought the MFS700 or 400 then you would have circle jig from Festool.
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Offline timbertailor

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2014, 10:42 PM »
You could have bought the MFS700 or 400 then you would have circle jig from Festool.

Festool could have made my design and saved the consumer $400 dollars to cut circles and still made 100% profit.

They make great tools but their accessory prices insult the intelligence of the average consumer who does not make a living at wood work.

For the prices they charge, everything should be made from aircraft grade aluminium, not molded plastic.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2014, 10:47 PM by timbertailor »

Offline fritter63

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 12:18 AM »
You could also build one from 80/20 parts for much less. There are threads here on it somewhere.....

Offline Roseland

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 07:06 AM »
Cutting circles is just one thing the MFS is good for.  I bought one a couple of years ago, thinking that "It might come in handy sometimes".  I now use it one almost every project I do, in one way or another.

For example, this week I built a lockable cabinet.  The cylinder lock barrel had flats on it to stop it rotating in the door.  I used the MFS to rout a rounded-corners rectangular hole that was a superb fit, and so much more accurate, quicker and easier than any other way I know.

If the MFS got lost or stolen, I would still buy it again even if it was more expensive.  And I'm essentially a hobbyist.

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Offline epicxt

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 11:09 AM »
+1 For whatever reason, I find myself having to route out rectangular holes of varying sizes constantly. Whether dadoing custom brackets into oversized beams or treads into stringers the mfs comes through with accuracy and adjustability.
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Offline fritter63

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2014, 11:13 AM »

+1 For whatever reason, I find myself having to route out rectangular holes of varying sizes constantly. Whether dadoing custom brackets into oversized beams or treads into stringers the mfs comes through with accuracy and adjustability.

Funny, I'm going to have to do that next weekend.

My "rough" beams for the pergola came oversized (they misunderstood) and immediately I thought "I can mortise that for the Simpson hardware with the mfs"

Offline epicxt

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 11:18 AM »
Yeah, it's a snap! Here's one of my projects from the summer.
The sample piece of rough-sawn beam we got from the mill for the metal fabricator was undersized so all the brackets had to be fitted.
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Offline timbertailor

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2014, 09:50 AM »
Cutting circles is just one thing the MFS is good for.  I bought one a couple of years ago, thinking that "It might come in handy sometimes".  I now use it one almost every project I do, in one way or another.

For example, this week I built a lockable cabinet.  The cylinder lock barrel had flats on it to stop it rotating in the door.  I used the MFS to rout a rounded-corners rectangular hole that was a superb fit, and so much more accurate, quicker and easier than any other way I know.

If the MFS got lost or stolen, I would still buy it again even if it was more expensive.  And I'm essentially a hobbyist.

Andrew

Try cutting four strips of scrap wood into a frame. Done and cost me nothing.

Offline Roseland

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2014, 10:21 AM »
I've been there and done that.  Keeping it truly square can be a challenge, and when you want to change the size by 1/32" the screws keep trying to go into the old holes.  No, I'm converted to the MFS!

Andrew
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Offline Jim Kirkpatrick

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2014, 10:36 AM »
Although I love my MFS, no need to run out and buy one just to cut circles.  Just buy a longer knob screw for the guide rail attachment and replace the one that is in the knob so it protrudes out the bottom as pictured.  Works great!  I bought some longer rails at HD if I want to make a larger circle but so far haven't used them.  Pictured is a lazy susan I made for finishing small boxes on.








« Last Edit: October 27, 2014, 11:49 AM by Jim Kirkpatrick »

Offline fritter63

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2014, 10:33 PM »
Jim, that is fricken brilliant!

Offline fastbike

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2014, 01:22 PM »
A Jasper Jig also works if you're willing to drill one extra hole in the jig. No need to remove the OF 1400 base either.
I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.

Offline ben_r_

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2017, 04:02 PM »
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I am looking into ways of cutting circles with the OF 1010 and/or OF 1400.

A Jasper Jig also works if you're willing to drill one extra hole in the jig. No need to remove the OF 1400 base either.
So a Jasper Jig only needs one additional hole drilled in it to fit an OF 1400? Is the same true for the OF 1010? If that is all it takes why in the world didnt Jasper Tools just include it to support Festool routers? I cant comprehend why they wouldnt support Festool in their "universal jig".
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Offline DannyBoyNYC

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2017, 11:13 AM »
Bump again!

I'd be curious if this works for both the large and small Jasper circle jig as well.

Has anyone tried them with the 1400???

Offline ben_r_

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2017, 01:11 PM »
I have emailed Jasper Tools a few times. A couple of months ago they told me they were working on an updated version that would support Festool routers. However I have emailed them a couple times since then about it and never received a response. So at this point who knows. I cant believe they didnt make the original compatible with Festool. Dumb move on their part.
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2017, 05:19 PM »
Micro Fence makes one, but it's not cheap, nor is it low quality.
For a mere $199 and change it's all yours.

http://microfence.com/circle-completebrbclick-detailsb-p-54.html
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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2017, 05:32 PM »
Micro Fence makes one, but it's not cheap, nor is it low quality.
For a mere $199 and change it's all yours.

http://microfence.com/circle-completebrbclick-detailsb-p-54.html
Ive got the Micro Fence with the Circle Jig and had a Jasper Tools Circle Jig not too long ago and I can say for myself, when cutting circles Id take the Jasper Jig ANY day over the Micro Fence. Sure the Micro Fence is build very solid and all that, but the Jasper Circle jigs are way quicker to setup, easier to get repeatable cuts after changing from one size to the next and they are 1/3 of the cost. Ill probably be selling my Micro Fence setup once Jasper Tools comes out with those Festool compatible jigs.
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2017, 09:28 PM »
Yeah, there was a hint of sarcasm in there I thought.

I would not pay $200 for a circle jig. I have one I made
for all my other routers and if I ever needed to use it with
the OF1400 I could easily adapt it to fit.
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Offline geoffshep

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2017, 02:55 AM »
Don't you just use a piece of wood and the copying ring?


Online grobkuschelig

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2017, 03:54 AM »
Although I love my MFS, no need to run out and buy one just to cut circles.  Just buy a longer knob screw for the guide rail attachment and replace the one that is in the knob so it protrudes out the bottom as pictured.  Works great!...

I'm also doing what Jim does, but with a "sharpened tip" on the screw inside the handle.
It really works a treat. Have never reached for the MFS for circles, because quickly exchanging the screw in the handle is so quick and easy. (Although the MFS is around for other things...)

Also, the pivot point is in line with the cutter, which makes measuring the "diameter to cut" very easy.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2017, 05:24 AM »
Don't you just use a piece of wood and the copying ring?



More or less, but my jig has an adjustable pivot pin like so many others to whatever radius you desire within the range of the jig of course. Mine will give me up to an 18" radius which covers most of my needs.
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Offline billdevlin

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2017, 10:04 AM »
Was just looking at the jig and thinking trying to keep both ends engaged without popping out would be fun. Was thinking you could add two of the hold down clamps to hold the router down to the jig.

Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2017, 11:37 AM »
Comparing a jasper jig or a shop made jig to Micro fence is a joke.

The Micro Fence jig worth every bit of 200.00.  I love when guys start talking about how something is so expensive when they are on a Festool forum. We pay 1.00 for a sheet of sandpaper and 575.00 for a sander.

I paid over 900.00 for my router and I darn well  am going to have the best circle jig on the planet connected to it.

Let say an we make an 18" diameter disc then a matching 18" diameter pocket for it to fit into. And I want a PERFECT fit. Then immediately make a a 2.75" disc with a matching pocket and again I want a perfect fit, I better be able to push the male into the female and lift it off the table with it holding itself. Pressure fit.Then immediately after that make a 36.85" diameter disc and  then a mating radius cut part to but against. SO the inner arc mates against the outer diameter of the 36.85" disc perfectly..Lets make 8 of them, say 3" wide so they go all the way around the 36.85" disc and form a perfect ring around it. The 8 parts will  butt up against the disc it like a puzzle.

The only way you are going to beat time wise with me using the Micro Fence jig is use a CNC machine or have a shop made jig that works like a Micro fence jig does with a screw type system. You wont be more precise using a CNC  becasue the Micro fence jig is as precise and accurate as any CNC machine.

I have owned every circle  jig I could get my hands on and I still buy new models as they come out and nothing is as good as my OF 2200 connected to my Micro Fence Circle jig. IMHO, Any circle jig that requires you screw a base on to the router is automatically not as good as a Micro Fence Of 2200 combination. By the time you put that base on I am done with half the stuff I have listed. And IMHO any jig that isn't analog, meaning unlimited adjustment like with a screw can't be as good either. I guess digital movement like on my INCRA jigs could work as well on a circle jig.

And for the record the Micro Fence jigs arent really solid at all, so I tend to believe anyone that says it is  either doent own it or at least use it much. If you dont add extra feet every 12" so so they get quite flimsy actually. It's one draw back, but if you stick to  smaller stuff it doesn't matter much.

It takes 5 seconds  to attach my Micro Fence Circle jig to my OF2200 and about 10 seconds to pull it out to rough size and maybe about 45 seconds to dial it in to .001(if I take my time). So it's not fast enough ???? faster than 1 minute from size to size to within .001 is needed?   For what?

Go ahead and use a trammel with a piece of ply, I did it for years and it works, but that doesn't make it better than a Micro Fence jig.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2017, 12:14 PM by Dovetail65 »
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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2017, 12:48 PM »
Wow, well okay then. We know how he feels now...
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Offline Svar

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2017, 01:17 PM »
Was just looking at the jig and thinking trying to keep both ends engaged without popping out would be fun. Was thinking you could add two of the hold down clamps to hold the router down to the jig.
Works just fine. Not attaching the router to the jig is the whole point. 1) its very quick, 2) you don't have to rotate the router as you cut (good grip of the tool, no tangled cords and hoses).

BTW, with Micro Fence jig you can't do circles smaller than about 7 in. Same deal with Festool jig.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2017, 03:10 PM by Svar »

Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2017, 01:26 PM »
I love when guys start talking about how something is so expensive when they are on a Festool forum. We pay 1.00 for a sheet of sandpaper and 575.00 for a sander.

Funny...kind of like when those guys start crying about having to spend $2500 for a cracked alloy wheel for their $80,000 Benz.

Offline scary

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2017, 11:06 PM »
Dammit! I totally did Jims hack today for my 1010 and thought i came up with something cool, by myself! Totally took pictures and everything today and came here to post them. I didnt even know what a Festool was when Jim originally posted his.

Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2017, 11:55 PM »
Was just looking at the jig and thinking trying to keep both ends engaged without popping out would be fun. Was thinking you could add two of the hold down clamps to hold the router down to the jig.
Works just fine. Not attaching the router to the jig is the whole point. 1) its very quick, 2) you don't have to rotate the router as you cut (good grip of the tool, no tangled cords and hoses).

BTW, with Micro Fence jig you can't do circles smaller than about 7 in. Same deal with Festool jig.

Well that's not really true, you can do smaller than 7" circle with a Micro fence, just not with their circle jig attachment.

You just need swap to the fence attachment, which I always have on hand. With the Center Bar & Outboard Levelers Kit and the Edge Guide you can make  1/2 inch to 9 inch circles. You dont need to purchase the circle jig attachment for the Micro Fence edge guide for small circles. For little circles I use a DeWalt 611 that just stays on the edge guide small circle set up.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2017, 12:23 AM by Dovetail65 »
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Offline Svar

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Re: Festool OF 1400EQ Circle Jig
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2017, 03:56 AM »
Was just looking at the jig and thinking trying to keep both ends engaged without popping out would be fun. Was thinking you could add two of the hold down clamps to hold the router down to the jig.
Works just fine. Not attaching the router to the jig is the whole point. 1) its very quick, 2) you don't have to rotate the router as you cut (good grip of the tool, no tangled cords and hoses).

BTW, with Micro Fence jig you can't do circles smaller than about 7 in. Same deal with Festool jig.

Well that's not really true, you can do smaller than 7" circle with a Micro fence, just not with their circle jig attachment.

You just need swap to the fence attachment, which I always have on hand. With the Center Bar & Outboard Levelers Kit and the Edge Guide you can make  1/2 inch to 9 inch circles. You dont need to purchase the circle jig attachment for the Micro Fence edge guide for small circles. For little circles I use a DeWalt 611 that just stays on the edge guide small circle set up.
Yes, but it's entirely different jig. That's a lot of gear for rather simple operation. Maybe, if I were cutting circles for living. I'll stick with a pice of ply with two holes for now.