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Offline promark747

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2014, 10:13 AM »
JZ/Rusty,

Thanks...that was the last part I was wondering about -- which size set screws to use, and whether to use the conical type.

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Offline JZ Bowmannz

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2014, 10:34 PM »
The hex hole for the Allen Wrench in #10 set screws was too small,and I was afraid to strip it when I crank it, so I found these with slot at local hardware store, they have slots just like the Festool ones.


Offline Rusty Miller

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2014, 02:32 PM »
Just finished one connector.  Still have to add the little screws to hold the bottom piece to the top piece and finish the second connector.  But I must say the connector locks up in the rail quite nicely.  Looks like it is going to work perfectly.
BTW, I used 10x32 1/4 setscrews and they work great.
I hope to cut some ply this weekend so I'll be putting two 55" rails together so we'll see how they really work.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2014, 02:36 PM by Rusty Miller »
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Offline greymann

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2014, 12:34 PM »
I really like this design over the standard connectors.  Hope Festool will finally take notice.

If you are looking for a place to store these while not connecting two rails together, here's a suggestion.

I use the 1900 rail a lot on my homemade tables and find that it has more flex than I would like, especially when resting the saw on a portion hanging over the end of the table.  I have taken to using the standard connectors in the underside slot as stiffeners and have been pleased with the results.  I believe your longer bars will be even more effective.  I usually put one near the close end of the rail and the other nearer the center.

I also never have to remember where I put them.

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2015, 09:00 PM »
Here are mine. Roughly 15" long.








Offline Pizza Steve

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2015, 07:05 AM »
@Slartibartfass- that's a nice looking drill press/milling vice.  What model is it?


Offline Pizza Steve

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2015, 08:56 AM »
Would these homemade connectors also work as MFT connectors?

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2015, 09:51 AM »
Speaking of MFT connectors, are there any threads concerning them(yours or others)?  I just ordered a second MFT/3 and was already thinking about doing something with 8020 when I saw yours.

Offline JZ Bowmannz

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2015, 09:58 AM »
Would these homemade connectors also work as MFT connectors?

The MFT connectors are 14mm x 9mm.

You would need some different stocks for that purpose.

I would try layer of 12mm x 9mm stock plus a layer of 2mm x 9mm stock.

There are something called "Key Stock" available that are 14mm x 9mm. You have to do some machining of course.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#key-stock/=wk9rww

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2015, 10:03 AM »
Do you think these would work acceptably if made from T6061 aluminum instead of steel? I know the Festool ones are steel but I'd really like to stay away from using a dissimilar metal if aluminum would work? Also it would be easier to work with than steel.

I know it wouldn't be AS strong, but the question is "would it be strong ENOUGH"?

When I made my rail connectors I used 12 x 3 mm stainless steel so I don't have to worry about rusting.
I also made them 500mm long and they line up the rails perfectly.

Offline sgt_rjp

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2015, 04:07 PM »
When I mentioned MFT connectors, I was actually referring to Slartibartfass's.  I was wondering if you could use longer lengths of 8020 and have gaps between the tables.  Maybe even another work surface between them?

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2015, 04:16 PM »
When I mentioned MFT connectors, I was actually referring to Slartibartfass's.  I was wondering if you could use longer lengths of 8020 and have gaps between the tables.  Maybe even another work surface between them?

To use these style of connectors (not my idea btw) you would just need to up-size them.

As to using 80-20 you can hang them on the MFT/3 profile between tables to act as a support.... works with the 8020 T Slot Aluminum Extrusion 15 S 1515 ULS profiles.

i've done that to hang some Festool clamps or small extension tables to the MFT/3 (also not my idea....power of the FOG at work....).


Offline SPM in King

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2015, 02:22 PM »
Thanks to all who contributed to this thread.  Great idea - the 2 pieces - 2 and 4mm.  I made 2 sets (3 rails) last week and while they are not as perfect looking as some, they work well.  I made them 18" long and used 1/4" 24TPI set screws.  Used McMaster steel because I could not find a metric supplier here in Canada - land of metric!!

Here's hoping that the good folks at FT get the message - the standard ones don't do the job!  I was getting at least 1/8" play in the track.  That makes for some very poor cuts, especially when using the TS for hardwood glue ups.
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Offline jcoby

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2015, 03:55 PM »
I made two sets of these with a few changes: 1) a punch mark in the middle to make sure they are centered between the two tracks 2) I used a 1/16" roll pin at each end to keep them together and 3) filed the ends with a very slight taper and rounded the ends a bit to make them easier to insert into the slot in the track.

They work great. I broke down a dozen sheets of 3/4" ply without any movement and everything was within ~0.5mm. My only regret was not making them a bit smaller so they fit into the TS55 systainer. The ones I made barely fit diagonally in a systainer.

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2015, 07:33 PM »
The ones I made barely fit diagonally in a systainer.

Mine were also too long so I just leave them in the middle of the longer track. That way you always have them on hand and the screws don't get lost.

Offline mike_aa

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« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2015, 08:08 PM »
The ones I made barely fit diagonally in a systainer.

Mine were also too long so I just leave them in the middle of the longer track. That way you always have them on hand and the screws don't get lost.

That is one great idea!  Thanks  ;D

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2015, 09:05 AM »
I just made a pair. They are the greatest

Offline Chris99

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #48 on: October 16, 2015, 06:36 PM »
The hockey puck shimming up the MFT is particularly genius.  [big grin]


When I mentioned MFT connectors, I was actually referring to Slartibartfass's.  I was wondering if you could use longer lengths of 8020 and have gaps between the tables.  Maybe even another work surface between them?

To use these style of connectors (not my idea btw) you would just need to up-size them.

As to using 80-20 you can hang them on the MFT/3 profile between tables to act as a support.... works with the 8020 T Slot Aluminum Extrusion 15 S 1515 ULS profiles.

i've done that to hang some Festool clamps or small extension tables to the MFT/3 (also not my idea....power of the FOG at work....).

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2015, 07:10 PM »
The hockey puck shimming up the MFT is particularly genius.  [big grin]


It's not a hockey puck but individual round rubber slices you use to level a billiard table. Bought 'me on Amazon.com if I remember correctly in various thickness.

Here is a link to one size: http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-16-Inch-Rubber-Shims-Per/dp/B005GVIL9A/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1445037069&sr=8-9&keywords=Level+billiard+table

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2017, 10:59 PM »
I'm reviving a dead horse here, after being reminded of this on @UncleJoe 's thread.

I purchased the materials to make these, but I don't have a drill press.   I've drilled through metal plenty of times with my hand drills, but it seems like precision may be more critical here.

Is it possible to do these without a drill press?  Or should I be looking to find time in a shop that has one I can use?

Thanks,
Adam

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2017, 12:23 AM »
Is it possible to do these without a drill press?
I did it without a drill press.

Offline Bob D.

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« Reply #52 on: March 17, 2017, 06:44 AM »
Great idea! I'm glad this thread has resurfaced.

I am going to order the materials to make a set for my DeWalt tracks.
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Offline mrFinpgh

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« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2017, 08:24 AM »
Is it possible to do these without a drill press?
I did it without a drill press.

Neat.  I'm going to have to put a pair of these together.  I don't feel like the Festool connectors are very stable when it comes to a lot of lifting and replacing the guide rail.

Thanks,
Adam

Offline magellan

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #54 on: March 17, 2017, 03:07 PM »
I made a set of these today.  These are a great idea.  Thank you fellows for posting your ideas here    I ordered the materials from McMaster-Carr.  I used 1/4x20 set screws with a point on them.  The screws that hold the pieces together I got locally.  Could not find short no.8's so I used m4 x 70x 6mm  screws   They worked perfectly

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Re: Homemade guide rail connectors (not your typical ones)
« Reply #55 on: March 17, 2017, 05:55 PM »
Great idea! I'm glad this thread has resurfaced.
Me too! Very cool!
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