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Offline iamnothim

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2014, 12:47 PM »
I truly want one for my CMS/VL.
Dust collection is the only rub.
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Offline bkharman

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2014, 01:16 PM »
I truly want one for my CMS/VL.
Dust collection is the only rub.

Hey there.  Dust collection is superb with the LS fence.  I didn't show it on my pics, but the large 36mm hose connects to the side of the LS and collects through the fence itself.  The smaller hose still connects through the router under the table.  Dust collection is nearly as good as the OOTB fence that comes with the CMS.

Do you have an LS currently?  Or are you looking at getting one?

cheers.  Bryan.
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Offline iamnothim

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2014, 06:36 PM »
I've got a pair of MFT/3's and a CMS/LS
Thanks for the clarification on the dust collection.

It would greatly reduce the CMS fence setup time.
Very tempting.
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Offline bkharman

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2014, 07:35 PM »
I've got a pair of MFT/3's and a CMS/LS
Thanks for the clarification on the dust collection.

It would greatly reduce the CMS fence setup time.
Very tempting.

Which CMS do you have?  The VL or the GE?  If you have the VL, the setup works very well. I will take a pic or two of the dust connection when I get home. Like I said, it works really well but there could be some improvement.
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Offline richk

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2014, 08:03 PM »
What would be the best way to connect the MFT/3 to the CMS Model GE?

Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2014, 08:04 PM »
Nice product!

Offline bkharman

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2014, 08:44 PM »
What would be the best way to connect the MFT/3 to the CMS Model GE?

I don't have a GE, but I believe you can use the same MFT to MFT connectors. Hopefully someone with an MFT can speak up.

That being said, the width of the MFT and the width of the CMS-GE are different so it might be a little challenging. Just an FYI.

Cheers. Bryan.
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Offline iamnothim

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2014, 11:55 AM »
I've got a pair of MFT/3's and a CMS/LS
Thanks for the clarification on the dust collection.

It would greatly reduce the CMS fence setup time.
Very tempting.

Which CMS do you have?  The VL or the GE?  If you have the VL, the setup works very well. I will take a pic or two of the dust connection when I get home. Like I said, it works really well but there could be some improvement.

I guess I don't have an "LS". [huh]  duh

Mines a "VL"  Better yet....  It's the one that connects to an MFT/3  [big grin]
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Offline bkharman

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2014, 01:02 PM »
I've got a pair of MFT/3's and a CMS/LS
Thanks for the clarification on the dust collection.

It would greatly reduce the CMS fence setup time.
Very tempting.

Which CMS do you have?  The VL or the GE?  If you have the VL, the setup works very well. I will take a pic or two of the dust connection when I get home. Like I said, it works really well but there could be some improvement.

I guess I don't have an "LS". [huh]  duh

Mines a "VL"  Better yet....  It's the one that connects to an MFT/3  [big grin]

Perfect!  Then if you get the Incra LS (either the 17 or 25) you are all setup!  I also have the CMS that only has two legs and attaches to the MFT.

Let me know if you are headed that route. I can definitely give you some ideas of how it can help out. I really like my setup, but I will say it isn't for everyone.
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Offline Slappy

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2014, 01:53 PM »
I've got a pair of MFT/3's and a CMS/LS
Thanks for the clarification on the dust collection.

It would greatly reduce the CMS fence setup time.
Very tempting.

Which CMS do you have?  The VL or the GE?  If you have the VL, the setup works very well. I will take a pic or two of the dust connection when I get home. Like I said, it works really well but there could be some improvement.

I guess I don't have an "LS". [huh]  duh

Mines a "VL"  Better yet....  It's the one that connects to an MFT/3  [big grin]

Perfect!  Then if you get the Incra LS (either the 17 or 25) you are all setup!  I also have the CMS that only has two legs and attaches to the MFT.

Let me know if you are headed that route. I can definitely give you some ideas of how it can help out. I really like my setup, but I will say it isn't for everyone.
you can use a 32" LS , I ordered one with the base for the router LS positioner  all you do is call Incra @ Incrementaltools.com & they will install the router base plate on a 32"  TS positioner
order this http://www.incrementaltools.com/INCRA_LS_32_Range_Positioner_ONLY_p/ls32.htm
 & then ask that the other base be installed on it
 I have both the 17" & 32" with the bolt on base
Mike

Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2014, 12:34 AM »
 [big grin]

Do you have any other products on the works?

Cheers,

Paul
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Offline Kev

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2014, 04:55 AM »
Thoughts on ideal length of positioned ...

To my way of thinking, the flexibility of moving this new plate towards and away from the tool using the MFT holes means you can use a modest length positioner and minimise any potential deflection. Does anyone have thoughts on this? I suppose there's a factor of "you can have it, but you don't have to use it" when it comes to the length of the positioners ...I suppose I'm torn between a 17 and a 25 [unsure]

Thoughts?

Offline shed9

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2014, 06:29 AM »
Thoughts on ideal length of positioned ...

To my way of thinking, the flexibility of moving this new plate towards and away from the tool using the MFT holes means you can use a modest length positioner and minimise any potential deflection. Does anyone have thoughts on this? I suppose there's a factor of "you can have it, but you don't have to use it" when it comes to the length of the positioners ...I suppose I'm torn between a 17 and a 25 [unsure]

Thoughts?

I'm not sure you would have much deflection difference between a 17 and a 25. I have the 25 and a 32 and there is no noticeable difference between them two.

The one thing that will catch people out with the longer 25 fence is the space it eats up when its extended out. I would have thought the 17 would be plenty for routing only functions, whereas the 25 would be necessary if you run multiple cutting options such as a router (inset into the the table) and a saw blade.

Offline shed9

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2014, 06:44 AM »
Thinking about this and I'm going to kick myself for suggesting it (I'm open to royalties and first batch run  [smile])


How about.......

a bolt on bracket that allows the above adaptor to sit off an MFT table, i.e. a 90 degree bracket that slides onto the outside of the MFT table profile and allows the positioner alloy housing to sit off the actual table.

You could then butt an LR32 rail to the Incra fence and drill your own MFT tables using the spacing of the rail and precision of the positioner. You would need stop for the rail or another adaptor - maybe a bracket that bypasses the fence and connects to the end of a bare positioner and clips over the rail raised edge.

With some thought behind the adaptor being able to connect to other surfaces such as a couple if bolt holes in addition to the profile slides you could drill any size of MFT table whenever you wanted.


 [smile]


Offline bkharman

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2014, 09:34 AM »
Thoughts on ideal length of positioned ...

To my way of thinking, the flexibility of moving this new plate towards and away from the tool using the MFT holes means you can use a modest length positioner and minimise any potential deflection. Does anyone have thoughts on this? I suppose there's a factor of "you can have it, but you don't have to use it" when it comes to the length of the positioners ...I suppose I'm torn between a 17 and a 25 [unsure]

Thoughts?

Here are my thoughts after having one for a while now. When using with a MFT, I would go with the 17. I bought the 25 thinking it would be nice to have it when/if I get the CMS TS insert. I am not sure I will get it anything soon but to the question about deflection, I can have my 25 out all the way and it doesn't move. You have to really push on the sides by themselves to get it to budge. Everything is solid.

I would say if you are only routing, the 17 is more than fine. If you have a CMS TS (or can get one ;)) then the 25 is probably a bit better. Be warned, the 25 on the MFT all the way out, will take over the whole table!

Cheers. Bryan.
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Offline Reiska

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2014, 10:54 AM »
Well, I ordered the 25" model last night specifically to be able to utilize the whole table width when using it with my CMS-TS55 insert as a table saw. We'll see how much full width cutting use it will get.
 
I'm not really expecting to be able to use the MFT as a table while using it as a saw/router table though.
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Offline bkharman

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2014, 11:21 AM »
Well, I ordered the 25" model last night specifically to be able to utilize the whole table width when using it with my CMS-TS55 insert as a table saw. We'll see how much full width cutting use it will get.
 
I'm not really expecting to be able to use the MFT as a table while using it as a saw/router table though.

Awesome! 

I generally don't need to use the table for other things also but now with the Precision Plate, I can remove it, do what I need to do and put it back down without worry of recalibrating it.

Workflow and unexpected events are now a lot less worrisome than it was in the past.

Did you order the plate as well Reiska?
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Offline Reiska

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2014, 12:13 PM »
Yes and since I'm going to go through customs anyway I ordered the parallel guide set as well. ;-)
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Offline bkharman

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2014, 12:31 PM »
Yes and since I'm going to go through customs anyway I ordered the parallel guide set as well. ;-)

Good choice!  I have had the guide set and really like it. It can cut thin rips pretty well and is infinitely adjustable. I have a few t tracks to use with it (up to a 48").
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Offline Reiska

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2014, 12:54 PM »
I'll begin with 24" T-trackPlus for the parallel guides and see where to go from there.
The sky's the limit in my workshop, literally. [big grin]

Offline Kev

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2014, 05:51 PM »
I'll begin with 24" T-trackPlus for the parallel guides and see where to go from there.

Hmm, maybe I should have grabbed them too [sad]

Reiska, I'm probably going to hold off on the positioner till you get your 25, please let me know then whether you would have been happier with the 17.

... well, they're both in a shopping basket and I'm hovering over the checkout button [embarassed]

Offline bkharman

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2014, 06:05 PM »
I'll begin with 24" T-trackPlus for the parallel guides and see where to go from there.

Hmm, maybe I should have grabbed them too [sad]

Reiska, I'm probably going to hold off on the positioner till you get your 25, please let me know then whether you would have been happier with the 17.

... well, they're both in a shopping basket and I'm hovering over the checkout button [embarassed]

Would you be using the CMS LS Kev?  If you just have the router only, the 17 will be good unless you were going to run grooves and dadoes far out or do some box or dovetail joints where they would be 24" (610mm) tall.

If I were to do it again, with out the TS unit, I would go the 17 route. If you have the TS, get the 25 to get that larger rip width.

Hope this helps!
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Offline Slappy

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2014, 06:46 PM »
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Offline deeka

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the precision plate on the precision dogs website is listed as out of stock. Does anyone know when it will be available again? Is there an alternative, if they stop manufacturing the plate?

thanks

Offline bkharman

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the precision plate on the precision dogs website is listed as out of stock. Does anyone know when it will be available again? Is there an alternative, if they stop manufacturing the plate?

thanks

Email them, jerry is a great guy to work with. Someone over at Precision should get back to you pretty quickly.
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Offline ryansmythe

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Here are some pictures of my setup.

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Offline suds

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2015, 04:39 PM »
Wondered how this setup was working for you fellas?  How does this plate work better than a simple mounting to a 3/4" board with holes for Qwas Dogs?  I know I'm missing something here.
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Offline bkharman

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #57 on: February 10, 2015, 11:23 PM »

Wondered how this setup was working for you fellas?  How does this plate work better than a simple mounting to a 3/4" board with holes for Qwas Dogs?  I know I'm missing something here.

I still use it all the time!  I tried that route first, I had a piece of ¾ MDF with some holes and still ended up using clamps to get it stable.   In all honesty, I worked with Jerry at Precision to come up with a kick butt product so I am a little tied to this one.  ;^)

I love the simplicity, how solid it is and that I can dial it in in under 2 minutes if I move it around or switch from routing to cutting to whatever.

If you make your own or purchase the Precision Plate, you can't go wrong with the combo + Incra fence.

Cheers. Bryan.
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Offline Reiska

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #58 on: February 11, 2015, 02:32 PM »
Happy camper with mine too.

I just don't feel like using my very precious time making something to fiddling with setup when I can just drop the Incra on the plate into the holes, screw one knob in and start cutting.

Its solid, its neat, hides under the Incra attachment plate, no need to have clamps around, etc. Just a big win.
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Offline Claimdude

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Re: It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!
« Reply #59 on: February 11, 2015, 09:12 PM »
I am a little slow right now I guess but I don't see the benefit of this setup for anything except a router table attachment to the work bench. I have an LS on my Incra router table. Can the positioner be used on the work table (MFT) for sawing setup etc?

Jack