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Offline suds

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Jointmaker Pro Festool justification
« on: February 02, 2018, 06:17 PM »
I had to have a good justification to purchase a Jointmaker Pro and convinced my wife that the way the Jointmaker mounted perfectly to my 1080 made it a natural combination/companion. It actually works very well since my table is anchored to the wall and the Festool clamp further clamps the JMP to the 1080 it makes it rock solid.
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Offline neilc

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Re: Jointmaker Pro Festool justification
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2018, 10:15 PM »
JMP is a great tool.  I've had one for years.  Did you get the precision fence?

Here's a chess set I built with mine -

http://festoolownersgroup.com/member-projects/chess-set-at-precision-(pic-heavy)/msg353724/#msg353724

Reach out if you have questions on it -

neil

Offline suds

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Re: Jointmaker Pro Festool justification
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2018, 11:03 PM »
No. I just recently bought this one from a fella in Portland who got it from John at BCT and never used it.  I’ve been looking at the fence but wanted to have a secure place to mount the JMP first. It was a pleasant surprise to be able to use one of my 1080 MFT’s. 
Just by playing with it I can see I need to figure out some more secure holding solutions to keep the Stock from moving while cutting.  I noticed the stick I was cutting wanted to raise up from the bed.   After a couple of test cuts I did a 45 degree that was dead on and smooth as glass.
Your chess set is really a inspiration.
There’s not much information on their small forum. Have you found any good discussion groups on the JMP?
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Offline neilc

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Re: Jointmaker Pro Festool justification
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2018, 11:34 PM »
Early on the BCTW forum was more active.  I've taken a couple of classes from John so learned a lot from him.  If you don't have his hold-down clamps for the JMP, they are a good addition.  Really make a difference to keep the wood stable.  And helps prevent blade damage, particularly on angled cuts.  You might call Consuelo at BCTW and see if they have any available.   I don't see them on the website right now.  You can also use hold downs from Rockler or even Woodpeckers that use a 1/4" hex bolt in the tracks.

Offline suds

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Re: Jointmaker Pro Festool justification
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2018, 08:24 AM »
Thanks for the tip.  I wasn't aware that John had classes.  Does the new fence have provisions for hold downs?  I have a couple of Incra fences that I was contemplating how I could incorporate with the JMP.  I also have a Incra Original jig that I'm going to see if it will be of any value with repetitive cuts.
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Offline neilc

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Re: Jointmaker Pro Festool justification
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2018, 03:55 PM »
John used to teach classes at Marc Adams School of Woodworking.  But it's been a few years now since he has done so.

The fence supports two hold-downs that attach to the mounting arms behind the fence. There are no t-slots in the fence, however.

The table has t-slots that can be used to hold the wood to the table and against a fence. 

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Re: Jointmaker Pro Festool justification
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2018, 06:36 PM »
I've had one on order for the better part of 2017, the whole magilla including the fence and clamps. I think they may be shipping in a month or 2.

It's kinda anticlimactic since I am also awaiting my Shaper Origin, which I am much more excited about. The Jointmaker was a spur of the moment thing since they are produced so infrequently I convinced myself that I, ahem, needed one. Since placing the order I have seen a couple show up on eBay unused, but I don't recall any being complete with the fence.

Hopefully everything doesn't arrive the same week, it'ud be tough to 'splain.

RMW
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Offline Upscale

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Re: Jointmaker Pro Festool justification
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2018, 07:48 PM »
I've had one on order for the better part of 2017, the whole magilla including the fence and clamps. I think they may be shipping in a month or 2.

Makes me remember when I ordered one for myself. It was five or more years ago that I waited at least six months before mine was delivered. I live in an apartment, so noise and dust was, is always a major concern. Experimented with my JP for about a month or so and came up against one big problem with it for which there was no absolutely no workaround. The JP, at least my model, had a maximum cut length of about six inches. That severely limited the type of work I wanted to, like to do. This was something I did not realize when I ordered my JP.

The JP cuts very finely, with minimal kerf and with absolute precision. But, and the big BUT, is that it has this short length of cut that severely limits the type of work one can do with it. For me, it was devastating to have this limitation. I sold my JP about a month later. C'est la vie.
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Offline suds

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Re: Jointmaker Pro Festool justification
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2018, 09:55 PM »
I was about to place a order when a used one came for sale I Portland that hadn’t been used. Since most of what I will use it for is small boxes I’m sure it will be really fun to work with. Can’t wait to get into more intricate designs and small projects.
I see they have some hold down clamps but not sure they are in stock. Tomorrow I’ll play with the Incra fence to see if it would be a good addition.
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Re: Jointmaker Pro Festool justification
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2018, 10:24 PM »
I've had one on order for the better part of 2017, the whole magilla including the fence and clamps. I think they may be shipping in a month or 2.

Makes me remember when I ordered one for myself. It was five or more years ago that I waited at least six months before mine was delivered. I live in an apartment, so noise and dust was, is always a major concern. Experimented with my JP for about a month or so and came up against one big problem with it for which there was no absolutely no workaround. The JP, at least my model, had a maximum cut length of about six inches. That severely limited the type of work I wanted to, like to do. This was something I did not realize when I ordered my JP.

The JP cuts very finely, with minimal kerf and with absolute precision. But, and the big BUT, is that it has this short length of cut that severely limits the type of work one can do with it. For me, it was devastating to have this limitation. I sold my JP about a month later. C'est la vie.

Frankly I have no real use for the JMP2 but wanted to have it to play with. I'm expecting it to cost me at least one fingertip withing the first couple weeks.

Using it in my upstairs office/workroom late at night is my primary use case, that and wanting to fiddle with close tolerance small stuff. Having built our home to suit our work-at-home lifestyle it's a mite funky. Basically a 4 BR/2 BA self contained house on the first floor with our offices/workspace upstairs along with a gym and sitting area. We can have a houseful of guests downstairs during the beach months and I can still "go to the office" and not be disturbed while working. Also my upstairs space is 3.5X larger than the outside shop.

I'm still trying to figure out how to muffle the small CNC router and contain dust well enough to move it inside. Today I dug back into into Fusion 360 seriously for the first time in nearly a year, then trooped out to the shop with a laptop to run the part. And then headed back in to tweak the design and bring a mouse out with me so I could use the laptop if needed for further tweaks. And headed back in to try to troubleshoot some kink in the design/CAM. And went back out to try to run it again after figgerin' out the dumb thing I did to cause the problem. And then headed back up to compare the test cut part to drawings in the workroom...

If only I didn't live with other folks who insist on sleeping at night and not having a coating of fine dust everywhere in the house...

RMW
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