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Offline Colonel Panic

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Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« on: March 14, 2016, 11:52 PM »
Clever idea but overpriced like many of their OTTs. I have several of their products like squares and story sticks but I'll pass on this one since I can make one with some birch plywood and a bit of hardware.
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2016, 12:41 AM »
Just saw it as well.  Looks like you have to resquare it every time you take it off and put it back on the rail.

I just don't see how this would be more accurate or even that much more of a time saver compared to careful measuring.
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2016, 12:53 AM »
Similar idea to the Qwas Square (below), and a couple of other shop made versions I have seen here on the FOG.

I think the idea is that you would leave it on the rail more often than not. Interesting...


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Offline Kev

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2016, 03:37 AM »
They're just making a little hay till the FSK's hit !!

I'm often very negative about WP and the OTT offerings. $US100 for something you can make with 2 T bolts and a piece of plywood?? Give me a break [mad]

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2016, 09:31 AM »
I kind of like it.  It does need something to index it to the rail though for me to really pull the trigger on it.  The one I made a few years ago basically had another bar on it similar to the one that mounts the rail.  Used that to align the edge of the rail.  That bar was a little longer to give enough length to get it right each time.
I like the handle on that one and would rather have something made of Aluminum.  Price doesn't bother me, but the re-squaring hassle makes it worse than home made.
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2016, 09:37 AM »
They should have placed an adjustable bar on the top side. That once you squared the Woodpecker square up, the bar on the top could be slid against the track and tightened down so there is a square reference built into the Woodpecker square. Gonna pick up some Aluminum plate and make my own.

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2016, 09:37 AM »
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2016, 09:43 AM »
The bar under the rail looks too short. I wonder how much deflection to square you get if you have side pressure at the far end of your cut.
Interesting tool, but I think I'll continue my method of using one arm of my parallel guides for this type of cut.
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2016, 09:46 AM »
I guess I am a tad slow, but how do you hold the "handle" and move the saw more than a foot or so?
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2016, 09:53 AM »
I just don't see it working very well in terms of precision.

The slightest error in squaring the Track Square will be magnified as you proceed down the guide rail.

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2016, 09:57 AM »
I don't like how the knobs make it thicker than 3/4". I use a foam spoil board and with this I would have to make sure I'm always off the edge to make this work with pretty much any sheet good.
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2016, 10:35 AM »
I agree these are very over priced imho. I could set a CNC file up for something like this in about 10 min and machine it out of aluminum for about $50 a piece. For that matter I could laser them out of 1/2" acrylic or CNC then out 1/2" styrene. If that is all I made I could imagine doing 300 per day in my mahibe shop.

I feel they could have had a better OTT than this I am somewhat disappointed. I usually love and wish I could order all of woodpeckers OTTs.

Offline thedude306

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2016, 10:46 AM »
I'm not sure you guys are giving it enough credit.  I have the Bosch angle guide (it's basically a similar piece that attaches to bosh and Mafell rails that is adj) and I love the thing.

The concept is sound.
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Offline JimH2

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2016, 11:26 AM »
I agree these are very over priced imho. I could set a CNC file up for something like this in about 10 min and machine it out of aluminum for about $50 a piece. For that matter I could laser them out of 1/2" acrylic or CNC then out 1/2" styrene. If that is all I made I could imagine doing 300 per day in my mahibe shop.

I feel they could have had a better OTT than this I am somewhat disappointed. I usually love and wish I could order all of woodpeckers OTTs.

If your cost to make is $50 then a markup of $49.99 is not too much as you put it. They would not be in business if they sold everything at cost. Consider everyone lucky that they exist and make products that a lot of people like.

If you can make them cheaper and want the hassle of dealing with people, shipping, returns, etc then go for it.

Offline RellikJM

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2016, 11:29 AM »
Festool already makes an accessory that can do this and more : Angle Unit - 491588 $98


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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2016, 12:21 PM »
I was fiddling with something like this last year, it never made it to prime time due to lack of time. Fiddling included making a shop-made version from 2 pieces for 1/4" by 2" AL bar, then the more robust version I posted about. My observations from all this are:
  • I never trusted the first version since it only took a minor whack to knock it out of alignment, something I did nearly every time I used it, often while jostling it into position against the sheet goods
  • It took some time to get it set up dead-on square, I used a WP 16" by 24" square to do so and then tweaked it after a test cut
Also I agree that it would take something much longer than a 12" by 8" square to set up a 15" by 48" right angle, especially using the splinter guard to reference off of.

Just my [2cents] and I am not a designer/professional/etc. but I have worked on the concept a bit. If they have overcome the mounting challenges sufficiently to assure that it can't/won't move, then my only concern would be aligning it easily. I would not reach for it if I had to keep adjusting or checking it every time I used it.

On the other hand, I don't have any issue with their price. After making up 10 copies of the second design and calculating everything they would have to sell for >$200. That is WP territory without even the red anodizing...

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Offline Colonel Panic

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2016, 12:50 PM »
Festool already makes an accessory that can do this and more : Angle Unit - 491588 $98

Festool making a better tool at a lower price? What's the world coming to? [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]
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Offline Dogberryjr

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2016, 01:11 PM »
I'm relieved when a new OTT is announced and I don't lust for it.

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2016, 01:14 PM »
I'm relieved when a new OTT is announced and I don't lust for it.

Amen.

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2016, 01:42 PM »
FWIW...I think it'd be a rather nice addition to a guide rail for breaking down sheet goods.

I only have two issues with it. The first is the initial squaring of the Woodpeckers handle to the guide rail. Using a 1281 is rather hokey.  [poke]  If you're off by only .005"-.006" at the 1 foot mark, you'll be off by .040"-.050" at the 8 foot mark on a sheet of ply. I'd just use a small Woodpeckers Saddle T-Square and 2 pencil marks spaced 95" apart on a 8 foot piece of plywood.
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The second issue is how to maintain the perpendicularity while actively using the bulky assembled items. Because we're talking about an 8 foot lever arm (the Festool guide rail) it doesn't take much of a jar/bump to knock this assembly out of square. I think it will work, however, you have to be very, very careful when handling this assembly.

As far as price goes, I think they're in the ballpark. As a matter of fact I was quite surprised to see it under $100.  [eek] After watching the video, it appears that they may be using MIC 6 cast tooling plate which runs about $20+ per square foot. Add in machining time, clear anodizing, fasteners, extra bit & pieces, labeling, QA and packaging and the costs add up pretty fast.

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2016, 02:05 PM »
I'm relieved when a new OTT is announced and I don't lust for it.

Amen.

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2016, 05:27 PM »
Festool already makes an accessory that can do this and more : Angle Unit - 491588 $98



As far as price vs. features, the Festool clearly has a lot more features per dollar (it was $45 when I bought it).  As far as price vs. usefulness, I hope the Woodpeck one is a winner.  I may buy it and add my own self-squaring modification to it.  It's the nicest form factor I've seen.  Downside to the OTTs is that you can't read reviews before buying (unless they're the ones that really aren't one-time).

For reference, I've had a hate-hate relationship with my AU for years and would not recommend taking one if it is given to you free.  It will eventually cost you money by screwing up your projects.  Something like it that actually works is infinitely useful.
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2016, 06:55 PM »
I came to Festool/Mafell by way of a different tracksaw company which had a device similar to this and although it's not the same, it's very similar and was easily knocked out of alignment when using a rail of 55".  As Richard mentioned above, I also found myself fussing with it more than I wanted and abandoned it.  I would much rather use the 3rd party parallel guides with the Incra tracks and saving any shorter crosscuts for my MFT. Mafell makes an angle guide which is mounted permanently to a small piece of guide track which is imo much more reliable for this application. (Albeit I still wouldn't use it for any long cuts)

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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2016, 08:44 AM »
I think $100 for that is plenty. Looks like two would nest together nicely.  A large machining center would make short work of such a simple piece.  The two out of place holes to the left of the handle are to hold the material down as its machined...otherwise I'd bet the farm they'd mass cut them on a laser.

I do wonder of it would stay put after setup and if accuracy is really comparable to my current processes using a combo of my parallel guides, MFT, and Kapex.  Traveling lightly with less (unable to take Kapex and MFT), maybe it's a winner.

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2016, 10:09 AM »
A guide rail connector costs $18 and is much longer than the Woodpeckers offering. With 4 holes already drilled in it, you could use two to clamp it to the guide rail and two to screw it to a squared piece of plywood, aluminium etc.

You would need to shim it to level it with the bottom of the guide rail, but what could be simpler?


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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2016, 12:18 PM »
I see your guide rail connector, and cut it in half  [big grin].  Saved $80 bucks. 
I'm going to skip this OTT offer.

Sorry not real good at times with the Jig saw.  One day I will clean it us with my router.

Made two sets of 90 degree clamps that allow me to flip around and be used on either end of the rail.  The holes are for gripping/pushing/clamping. 

A quick alignment with a precision square and away we go.

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2016, 02:10 PM »
Festool already makes an accessory that can do this and more : Angle Unit - 491588 $98



As far as price vs. features, the Festool clearly has a lot more features per dollar (it was $45 when I bought it).  As far as price vs. usefulness, I hope the Woodpeck one is a winner.  I may buy it and add my own self-squaring modification to it.  It's the nicest form factor I've seen.  Downside to the OTTs is that you can't read reviews before buying (unless they're the ones that really aren't one-time).

For reference, I've had a hate-hate relationship with my AU for years and would not recommend taking one if it is given to you free.  It will eventually cost you money by screwing up your projects.  Something like it that actually works is infinitely useful.
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/'fixed'-my-angle-unit/30/

I agree that the Angle Unit is not great. The OTT addresses one problem and that is getting 90 degree cuts in the field and it should do that well. I use a square for setup and it works quite well. It probably is at least as good as this, but I'd say it can't match the convenience of the OTT, which is easier to carry and use if you don't have a square close by.

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« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2016, 03:14 PM »

Made two sets of 90 degree clamps that allow me to flip around and be used on either end of the rail.  The holes are for gripping/pushing/clamping. 

A quick alignment with a precision square and away we go.


That's a really slick idea...nice idea.

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2016, 05:52 PM »
I used to find the woodpecker OTT very creative and desirable. There are a number of older ones I wish I had gotten in on.
Not so much though anymore with the offerings more recently. They seem more like gimmicky quickies to lure in Festoolians rather than actual creative and helpful woodworking tools.
Of course the pricing isn't great either. Nonetheless for the creative or good stuff I'll pay.
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2016, 09:04 PM »
I get that OTT are generally expensive. The OTT I have purchased before are quality tools that have worked well for me. As a community of makers it makes sense that many of you would have made your version of this tool to solve this problem with your work flow. These tools are made in America by Americans and I think that that has value.

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2016, 11:28 PM »
As discussed earlier there are several versions of this jig floating around, this is the one I would purchase  from Rip Dog tools if it ever becomes available for sale.


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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2016, 12:16 AM »
Ironically , I use the big WP red square for this....

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« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2016, 09:24 AM »
As discussed earlier there are several versions of this jig floating around, this is the one I would purchase  from Rip Dog tools if it ever becomes available for sale.

I like the ripdog design better.  To me it makes more sense to attach to the top slot than beneath because clamps can still be used to affix the rail to the material if desired without removing the attachment.  For the side it also will lay perfectly flat on a surface or against the wall.  Probably the biggest advantage is how far apart the attachments to the rail are which should make it less prone to lose alignment.

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2016, 12:01 PM »
Without something that "locks" the far end of the rail, I would be afraid of drifting out-of-square as I progress down the rail. I suppose you could line it up on the squared end, then gingerly apply a track rail clamp at the far end. But it would be so easy to break square.

Also, I find myself often needing every available cm of length of my 1400 rail. So I would frequently be needing to take the square off, then putting it back on and re-squaring.

Now I will brag to my wife that I just saved $99!

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« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2016, 12:14 PM »
Without something that "locks" the far end of the rail, I would be afraid of drifting out-of-square as I progress down the rail. I suppose you could line it up on the squared end, then gingerly apply a track rail clamp at the far end. But it would be so easy to break square.

Also, I find myself often needing every available cm of length of my 1400 rail. So I would frequently be needing to take the square off, then putting it back on and re-squaring.

Now I will brag to my wife that I just saved $99!

If you are finding drift, clean off your sticky grip strips on the back of your track. I don't have any issue of my track moving, unless I am cutting on something, as smooth as MDF, and I have dust which has reduced the effectiveness of the Grip strips on the back of the tracks.  So, although I see other ways to achieve making your own square, or using a square, to square up your track, the drift thing seems that doesn't really apply to the square. You would still have the room to place a clamp on the other end of the track if for some reason someone has an issue of drift.

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« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2016, 06:00 PM »

If you are finding drift, clean off your sticky grip strips on the back of your track. I don't have any issue of my track moving, unless I am cutting on something, as smooth as MDF, and I have dust which has reduced the effectiveness of the Grip strips on the back of the tracks.  So, although I see other ways to achieve making your own square, or using a square, to square up your track, the drift thing seems that doesn't really apply to the square. You would still have the room to place a clamp on the other end of the track if for some reason someone has an issue of drift.

I use pre-finished ply mostly for cabinets and the grip strips aren't great however with the Gecko I think the square type of accessory would be awesome. 

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« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2016, 06:50 PM »
Once square,  clamp at the other end.  Melamine has the same problem.

BTW  I though you were suppose to always get a new tool to complete a project for your wife???  Did I get some thing wrong?  Give money back???



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« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2016, 04:30 AM »
At least part of the cost is wrapped up in the OTT concept. One which I strongly dislike. I get that it is attempting to generate "buzz" or "hype" but you certainly don't need that with quality tools and the cost could be reduced by spreading the research/development over a greater volume. Everyone that may have been interested gets left out because they didn't know soon enough?
There are several OTTs that I would like to have..... too late now though

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« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2016, 09:30 AM »
I am not sure I understand how the new slot on the redesigned tool works. A drawing or picture would have helped.

Did anyone else receive the Woodpecker survey? I did notice that there was not a comment section. I added a comment/complaint in the section on tools used.  Wonder if I will get a reply.

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« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2016, 10:54 AM »
I am not sure I understand how the new slot on the redesigned tool works. A drawing or picture would have helped.

Did anyone else receive the Woodpecker survey? I did notice that there was not a comment section. I added a comment/complaint in the section on tools used.  Wonder if I will get a reply.


It looks to me like you'd put your clamp in the track then slide the square against your workpiece. The change just made clearance for the clamp.

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« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2016, 12:49 PM »
Did anyone else receive the Woodpecker survey?

Ya I did, thought is was kind of goofy though...
Woodpeckers questions: Are you willing to pay extra for tools made in the US?
What are your favorite woodworking tool manufacturers?

I don't know how my answer of early Powermatic products (pre-Jet) will help them much.  [huh]

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« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2016, 11:37 PM »
Did anyone else receive the Woodpecker survey?

Ya I did, thought is was kind of goofy though...
Woodpeckers questions: Are you willing to pay extra for tools made in the US?
What are your favorite woodworking tool manufacturers?

I don't know how my answer of early Powermatic products (pre-Jet) will help them much.  [huh]

It's gathering data which they will then analyze and potentially make decisions on.  Without the data they're just guessing.  I think it's very clever. 

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« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2016, 01:42 AM »
[quote author=Scorpion link=topic=45595.msg450465#msg450465 date=1459049859
It's gathering data which they will then analyze and potentially make decisions on.  Without the data they're just guessing.  I think it's very clever. 
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I guess you probably need to see all of the questions they asked. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Woodpeckers and own a ton of their OTT tools, but this survey was strange to say the least. I never did divine in which direction they were heading and what information exactly they were trying to ferret out.
Actually, after completing the survey and submitting it, I just sat and thought, what were they really looking for and how will this survey benefit their cause?

Time will tell...

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« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2016, 08:55 PM »
[quote author=Scorpion link=topic=45595.msg450465#msg450465 date=1459049859
It's gathering data which they will then analyze and potentially make decisions on.  Without the data they're just guessing.  I think it's very clever. 

I guess you probably need to see all of the questions they asked. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of Woodpeckers and own a ton of their OTT tools, but this survey was strange to say the least. I never did divine in which direction they were heading and what information exactly they were trying to ferret out.
Actually, after completing the survey and submitting it, I just sat and thought, what were they really looking for and how will this survey benefit their cause?

Time will tell...
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I took the survey too.  I also felt the questions and intended purposes weren't obvious but am used to data mining activities because of what I do.   N their mind the answer to the questions likely hep them understand something they think they want to know about...like feedback from a group f buddies during a bench racing session.   To your point, unless we know what the intent was, we may not get it.


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« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2016, 11:05 PM »
Woodpecker should be very careful how they analyze the data they are gathering.

Many years ago I read a book in which the author argued that the downfall of RCA as a major American company was greatly hastened by the huge amount of money that the company wasted on the development of the video disc. The disc and player never sold very well and was soon totally destroyed as a product by the VCR. Even before the VCR, the major problem was that each side of the disc only held about 30 minutes of pre-recorded material. A 2 hour movie meant changing a disc 3 times.

A retrospective analysis of the pre marketing research reveled that the research had been hugely biased in favor of positive ratings for the video disc. Proper research might have revealed that the demand for the product was going to be small and RCA could have invested the money in something else that might have kept the company going for a much longer time.

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #46 on: April 04, 2016, 12:33 AM »


http://www.woodpeck.com/tracksquare.html

I pre-ordered this item today.  Tomorrow (4/4/2016), is the last day for purchase before orders close.   Delivery in mid-August (gives me time to purchase my Festool TS 55 REQ + MFT/3 MultiFunction Table Package).
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2016, 12:49 AM »
Free shipping if you order from us.  [big grin]
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2016, 01:09 AM »
Free shipping if you order from us.  [big grin]

Shane,

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Festool PT3561556 TS 55 REQ + MFT/3 MultiFunction Table Package   $1,258.50

Just waiting for the money to magically appear in my bank account!   

   

 
GREEN: In order of purchase = | CT26  |  RS 2 E | Hose w/ Sleeve 3.5m | 115mm X 226mm Hand Sanding Block | 80mm X 133mm Hand Sanding Block | HSK D21.5 5m hose | CT Boom Arm Bundle Set | 1080 Plate for custom MFT | OF 1400 EQ Router (metric) w/accessories | SYS-Rock BR10 | Cordless Sander RTSC 400 Set |  Cordless Delta Sander DTSC 400 Basic | Linear Sander LS 130 | PDC 18/4 set | CXS  2.6Ah Set | Installer Cleaning Set (2018 version) |  New style Festool hose D 27/32 x 3,5m AS/CT | Replacement Hose Garage | Remote control CT-F I/M-Set | MFH1000 work stool | Next purchase: TBD

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2016, 11:24 PM »
for those of you interested in a real solution to the concerns in this thread I invite you to keep an eye out for a new post with pictures from me on this subject later in June  [wink]
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2016, 07:18 AM »
@Klemm Interesting....keep us posted

for those of you interested in a real solution to the concerns in this thread I invite you to keep an eye out for a new post with pictures from me on this subject later in June  [wink]
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #51 on: June 12, 2016, 11:19 PM »
several examples of the new GRS-16 Guide Rail Square are already in the hands of several craftsmen around the country for evaluation at this time.
Hint: no more re-squaring after removing or even after installing the first time [smile]
more news to follow
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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #52 on: January 02, 2017, 04:19 PM »
    Here's my way of using the parallel guide with a rail to make nice square crosscuts. 

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Re: Latest Woodpecker OTT - Track Square
« Reply #53 on: January 02, 2017, 04:26 PM »
    Here's my way of using the parallel guide with a rail to make nice square crosscuts. 
that works great in the shop.
i used to do this untill i bought the tso version.
the problem with this is that you cant put it in the systainer
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